View Full Version : documentation on the sentinel superpro, linux wise
m.oldfield
November 16th, 2005, 19:57
Hi there,
I am looking for any documentation you may have on interacting with a superpro from a linux system.
This will be my first project of this kind on linux (I have done some programming, but not at the syscalls level). Still trying to figure out how to call functions exported by a kernel module, but that is not the main reason of this post: I have passed the kernel module provided by the keymaker by ida, and I see a lot more functions exposed that are usually found on the windows, more hi-level option (the SX32W..DLL that I found with the SproDump from +Spath).
I already got hand of the API docs, but it looks very hi-level stuff (like the functions exported by SX32W.)
Anyone has any experience to share, or more detailed info on this?
thanks
Mike
JMI
November 16th, 2005, 20:31
Since our Rules, and the statement under your signature require that you first search for your own solution, before you just ask someone to give you information or do things for you, I am compelled to ask "Did YOU search?"
I just did a quick look at google with search criteria such as "superpro tutorial + linux" and "superpro cracking + linux" (without the quotes) and got a substantial number of hits. While I did not take the time to study any of them, have YOU? If not, do that FIRST, and report back. If you have searched, you can avoid this type of reminder by following the Rules and state that you HAVE searched for a solution to your own problem and the results of that search.
Also using the SEARCH Button HERE would get you to some information on "superpro + linux" including this:
Sentinel SuperPro:
http://www.rainbow.com/products/sentinel/superpro_specs.asp
which appears in a Thread here discussing protection systems used on linux systems.
That would have gotten you to the new site for superpro at:
http://www.safenet-inc.com/support/tech/sentinel.asp which has certain available information for downloading, including various drivers.
This again is WHY we ask people to do their own homework before posting and/or indicat that they have done so.
Regards,
m.oldfield
November 16th, 2005, 20:55
Hi JMI, and thanks for your fast response.
I had found some of your links, but some not. I usually start this kind of projects by gathering and reading as much info as I can, to avoid loosing time. That's why I posted the request. Not a "tell me how I do it", but more of a "if you have know some interesting stuff not usually known" kind of post...
I know and understand that it may be frustrating for you moderators to have to answer to newbies, but maybe you can ease off on the "do your homework first" stance sometimes... as it is precisely what I am doing with the post. googling helps, but some docs you can't just find on the net... And that's where the forums really help
And I do have the drivers (on the post I actually say I have used ida on it), the specs, the lot of "public info" on the superpro... I am just looking for more low level stuff, that someone who got the SDK may have, for instance...
JMI
November 16th, 2005, 23:00
Aside from the fact that the "do your homeword first stance" is, in fact, part of my job as moderator on these forums, the Rules do say, to everyone, that one should search first and indicate that they had searched. I continue to repeat these warnings and reminders because, despite those statements, and the fact that we have gone to the trouble of including the statement under the signature of ALL new posters on our Forums, very many first time posters forget to do one or the other, or both.
As I pointed out, if your original Post had reported that you had made an effort to find your own information, beyond the API information you identified, I would not have taken the opportunity to use your Thread as an ongoing reminder to ALL new posters of what is expected here. This was not just something directed at your lack of indicating that you had searched, but a reminder to the wider audience of the requirements of our Rules.
And you should notice that my Post does NOT mention that you were asking someone to "tell you how to do it" and it doesn't contain that comment because you did not do so. However, you DID clearly fail to search on the net yourself OR you clearly failed to state HERE that you had done so. Therefor, for one of these two reasons you DID deserve my reminder that one or the other is supposed to accompany your posting.
And, again, it is NOT "frustrating for [we] moderators to have to answer to newbies." That is the specific reason WHY this Forum is here. So Newbies MAY ask questions. The point is, and was, simply that we ask ALL posters here to first search for the answers to their own question OR indicate that they have attempted to help themselves. Although the reminder appears more frequently in this Forum, it is because we attempt to start new posters off on the correct footing.
Had you done ONE or the OTHER, no comment by me, reminding you of the Rule, would have been necessary. It is simply foolish for you to attempt to shift to me the responsibility for your not having done what the FAQ instructed you to do.
So, as I often do, I not only reminded you of the correct path, I gave you a helping hand along the way. That is my function here.
Again, I make these comment for the wider audience of new and soon to be new posters here and have no special axe to grind with you, nor any hard feelings about your response.
And have you googled for: "superpro + SDK + linux" (or variation thereof, again without the quotes)? I got 969 hits in google. And you should notice, if you haven't already that many of the foreign language hits have a button to (translate this page) which will help you to determine if there is really something of interest and/or downloadable.
And have you looked at all the interesting stuff on CrackZ' site, linked at the bottom of the forums?
Regards,
m.oldfield
November 17th, 2005, 00:26
Sorry if I did not specify that I had looked for the SDK, but having said (or implied) that I had the API, the driver, the windows dll stuff, +Spath tool, that the info I have is high level stuff and I need to get "lower" seemed clear enough for me that I am working on the project for a while.
I also apologise for forgetting to mention that I have been reading for a while the fravia and crackz pages, wasm.ru, and a couple of other sites related to dongles, emulators and debugging. I did use the search facility on the forum, read the posts on the very empty linux forum, considered submitting this question there but then again "I am a newbie around here". Google and others have been used with all the words I believe are relevant to the search, but I "still haven't found what I am looking for" (c) U2. I have also been studying IDA, w32dasm, softice, using a couple of tools from sysinternals, key dumpers, (yes I have been on the windows side of the street, as I said, this is the first time I plug it to a linux box), and I can't remember what more...
Sorry for this comunication confusion. Don't take me wrong, but I still think that you also read the post too fast (and the google answers to those keywords faster).
Please, can we get this behind us? I would rather not start my relationship with this forum with a huge label "lamer" on my head...

JMI
November 17th, 2005, 00:45
All you need to do is re-read the part where I said I "have no special axe to grind with you, nor any hard feelings about your response." I have not labelled you in any way, don't generally trouble myself with labelling people, and, as I said, I used your post to make a point for a wider audience than you and I.
And I neither read your post too fast nor read the google hits too little because it is not my job to find your subject matter. I merely made some (hopefully) possible suggestions for search criteria.
It is clear, NOW that you DID search and part of the point was that you really did not say so in your first post. Again I make the simple point, had you mentioned some of what you have now disclosed in your FIRST post, you would not have gotten any reference to the Rules from me.
It would now be good to simply move on and hope someone who has done research on superpro in relation to linux can guide you further along through the dark codewoods.
Regards,
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