View Full Version : to all the MSIE haters out there and those who like it
Snatch
January 15th, 2001, 02:33
ok first off these guys just put down ie because they think its "l33t" and "c00l" to do so. get a life. for those who like ie or dont think its as bad as the other lamers and arent going to conform to the typical cracker code of unl33tness let me give you a little cracking project. the way a lame site like frogs works is by checking the user-agent http header field. yup thats right modify that and frog can um cry. im not going to tell you how to do it but its not that hard if you set the right breakpoints and use your head
Snatch
Lord Rhesus
January 15th, 2001, 05:36
Alternatively use proxomitron (http://www.proxomitron.cjb.net) like I do which allows you to easily fake browser type, OS and filter out adverts. As for using IE, speaking truthfully, I use Opera 4.02 and this is a hell of a lot quicker than IE, it gives you a hell of a lot more options for privacy and it doesn't allow sites to view cookies from others (http://www.peacefire.org). In my opinion as someone who has tried many different browsers IE sucks (but not as much as the latest versions of Netscape 'Communicator')
Muad'Dib
January 15th, 2001, 13:58
I honestly think that M$IE sucks. It is slow, buggy, and unweildy. If you like it, good for you, but you dont have to insult someone like +Frog's Print for having anti M$IE stuff on their site. If he doesn't like M$IE and wants to have anti-browser code on his page, he certainly has the right to.
miscreant
January 27th, 2001, 13:35
Internet Explorer is MUCH faster then opera and has a far better rendering engine. Only problem I have with IE is that its not integrated into a MDI form like opera (not a major problem) and that it wont render a table until the complete table is downloaded and it reaches a </table> tag, but then again, neither will opera.
Lord Rhesus
January 27th, 2001, 14:47
Quote:
miscreant (01-27-2001 02:35):
Internet Explorer is MUCH faster then opera and has a far better rendering engine. |
Much faster? Just try and browse a website offline with IE and then compare it with Opera. Opera will load a page instantly where as IE will take a few seconds! The browsers have little if any affect on the internet connection and recieve data at the same speed. Just try and compare the two as I said off-line and when it comes down to raw processing power of the webpage, you'll see that Opera is far quicker!
Muad'Dib
January 27th, 2001, 15:17
Yup, Opera is definately faster. Try running it on a slow computer like mine. On my computer Opera loads in a second or two and IE takes up to thirty. Also, for big multimedia intensive web pages, Opera doesn't steal all of my processing power and lag my computer until I close it like IE does. Once again, Opera wins my vote

igitt
January 27th, 2001, 17:28
Moreover, as I said below: all IE-defenders among us may find A+heist's new essay at searchlores.org an instructive reading... M$IE 'smears' your data...
Besides Opera is not ONLY quicker. That's a nice feature, of course, but Opera has ALSO a (well known) no-images option a (lesser known) no-popup option and another (lesser known) no animated-gif option.
Now all those among you that do indeed prefer not only to smear their data around like there were no future, but also to slurp heavy images, swallow advertisements, ingest popups and gulp down gif-animations please step on one side and enjoy your M$IE... prima illa et maxima peccantium est poena, peccasse... eheheheh
miscreant
January 28th, 2001, 16:10
ok... so we all gotta save our webpages to disk now to get a speed advantage.
In a real situation.. eg loading a website from a remote host, Internet Explorer is far faster.
Takes a few seconds??? Loads instantly on mine (any page from disk, even the complete source code listing from www.planet-source-code.com which is a huge table).
Muad'Dib
January 28th, 2001, 16:53
As lord Rhesus said, the actual browser makes little or no difference on transfer speed. That really depends on your connection. Saving files to disk was an EXAMPLE of how to do a pseudo-benchmark on speed.
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