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toolmanx
January 5th, 2007, 12:53
I'm new to this site. I have just enough knowledge of asm and C programing to get me in trouble but not enough to be of much value. I am running XP SP2on an AMD.

I have a copy of SoftICE ver. 4.05. That old version is good for NT and 2000. It appears to load on my machine but I can't find any .exe to run on. It loads a ntice.sys but no .dat either.

It will require a lot of work on my part to split my HD to put on 98 but I'm willing to do that if my SoftICE will run then. I'll have to dump my SP2 and then download it again on my telephone line. That took me hours last time. I'll copy my reg and as many files as I can find but I'll bet I'll miss something and have to go through the whole SP2 download again. It's not that I'm in love with SP2 but I downloaded a great reverse engineering program from Microsoft that will only run on SP2. It's called ProMonitor. I've got PEBrowser, RecStud, and WinDebugger but ProMonitor is the most interesting. SoftICE sounds even better. Being able to trace step by step brings back old memories of tracing DOS programs using Debug on my first 8088.

My questions. Do you think that this old ntice will load and run on 98? Is there any magic I can perform to get this old version to run on my XP?

blabberer
January 5th, 2007, 13:27
if you are not going to touch real hardware and you are just interested to play with softice in its best platform
download a virtual machine (microsoft offers vpc2k4-sp1 for free)
vmware is available for a 45 days trial

install virtual machine
install your preferred os inside the virtual machine
install all your toys in vm

go start playing jack and jill went upto a hill with two operating systems inside one machine or
ten operating systems inside one machine

if you have a tremendous amount of ram lets say 1 gb ram then you can operate all the ten operating systems inside one machine simultaneously

script in python under linux and transfer its output to win2k3 server running in another vm all in real time drag and drop

toolmanx
January 5th, 2007, 13:47
I did a search at Microsoft for vpc2k4-sp1 and got no result. I'll try vmware and see how that goes. The size of the download will dictate the value to me since it is a trail. I hate to download for hours and only get a short time to use a program.

blabberer
January 5th, 2007, 14:03
haha i get about a million hits for vpc

Results 1 - 10 of about 7,630,000 for vpc. (0.14 seconds)

searching for vpc2k4 i still get about 1000 hits

Results 1 - 10 of about 769 for vpc2k4. (0.17 seconds

get about 10 results for

Results 1 - 9 of about 29 for vpc2k4sp1. (0.14 seconds)

and almost all of them are relevent in some way

i head down to microsoft and repeat the dance

and microsoft spits about 200 hits

Didn't find it here?
Try MSN Search for "vpc"
Results 1 - 25 of about 201 for vpc (Subscribe to results )

you either must be blind not to notice them or you attenstion span must be too less

you could have downloaded and installed it by the time you posted back this dumb reply (dont take this otherwise but this kind of dumb posts without real work are really discouraged here)

btw vpc is 18.2 mb and vmware about 45 mb

and here is a blurb from microsofts site

Virtual PC Is Now Free!
Whether Microsoft virtualization technology is an important component of your existing infrastructure or you're just a Virtual PC enthusiast, you can now download Virtual PC 2004 absolutely free. Microsoft will also offer the free download of Virtual PC 2007, with support for Windows Vista, available in 2007.

naides
January 5th, 2007, 14:56
Just a Question: Does VPC allow Softice to run inside a Virtual machine?(I have not tried it, that is what I asking), but I know for a fact that VMware does runSice (But may require some tweaking. see dELTA and others postings on Sice inside VMware

smoke
January 6th, 2007, 06:12
actually toolmanx, download the driverstudio v3.2 (and apply the driverstudio v3.2.1 patch if necessary -> if keyboard problems appear) SoftICE *should* work if you have an AMD64 system (and xp sp2 installed).. (doesnt work with P4 systems (atleast it didnt work here ..) tho .. wonder why)

but if chose to run softice in VMware you will need to add those 2 lines in the *.vmx file:
Code:

vmmouse.present = "FALSE"
svga.maxFullscreenRefreshTick = "2"


good luck

toolmanx
January 6th, 2007, 11:01
Thanx Smoke. I am in the process of bringing my system back together. I decided to load 98 after Blabberer told me the sizes of the VMs. Too big for me. I checked some out and the ones I looked at required more ram than I have also. I'll try your way then if that doesn't work, I'll try on 98. I haven't yet intstalled a dual boot. I hate to admit it but somehow adding a partition, I zapped my Hal.dll and had to do a complete reload.

blabberer
January 7th, 2007, 12:52
Quote:

Just a Question: Does VPC allow Softice to run inside a Virtual machine?(I have not tried it, that is what I asking),


hey naides did you ask that question on purpose after talking with that daemon guy ?
you both colluded good enough to wreck my wonderfull virtual image
let that sptd burn in hell
just to answer your question i uninstalled the dumb daemon
and tried installing the old copy of siw405nt that i had in vpc and all hell broke loose
the driver wasnt uninstalled and neither does it get deleted nor allows me to
edit registry in even safe mode

i had to make a new vm and yes softice does run without problems in vpc
os w2k sp4 clean install (only winrar and softice extra after default installation during installation it gave me s3 trio adapter i ran a check (test button ) test result was successfull so went ahead with s3 trio dispaly adapter and ps2 compatible mouse option amd manual boot )

i had installed the vm addons (for shared folders access) which i had to uninstall because sice wasnt working with addons installed

sice version 4.05

here are a few screen shot

blabberer
January 7th, 2007, 12:54
oops only one atachment per post

toolmanx
January 8th, 2007, 14:59
Thanks, you guys. I now have SoftICE running. Next is a long learning curve.

Blabberer, next time I post, it won't be chit chat. I will have a technical question to challenge you with.

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