THE SCRIBE OF MARCUS: AN INTERVIEW WITH VICTOR NOBLE

by Adam Gorightly
[continued from part I


A.G. What was the setting for these psychedelic rituals? Were they composed of large groups of people "turning on", or was it done more on an individual basis?

V.N. Casual use was discouraged, and any individual who was found to have an inveterate "drug problem" was expelled, after being given ample time and encouragement to resolve it.

The biggest rituals were the seasonal festspiels. The musicians would play, the people would dance, most persons would eat acid, and Thule would open -- much as described in "Part 1: Magic War" but on a bigger scale and in a non-conflictual situation. Thus a large number of people would imprint all at once on incredible mutually-perceived images of supernatural events. The Gods would come down and incarnate as people dancing and otherwise acting in archetypal ways. People would recover their ancestral memories. Later they would remember these things, and strive to live up to the imprints of being a God or being a heroic ancestor.

It was also a regular practice for people to be guided in individual reimprinting sessions using LSD. This always came as part of an extended process which could be considered therapy, conducted by Marcus and other qualified individuals. If you're familiar with Stanislav Grof's early work, that will give you the general flavor of it. People were assisted in working through their dysfunctional old imprints, and awakening to the reality of the Geist.

As I said, LSD was just a tool for a natural process, used only when necessary. Saxon (Marcus' soulmate) never took acid in her life, but was so tapped into Thule that her mere presence could open it up for someone who was tripping.

A.G. What other drugs besides LSD were used in ritual?

V.N. The compatible ones: marijuana and hashish. Other substances were used only very rarely. And the cannabis was not allowed to become habitual; daily consumption was verboten.

A.G. Marcus dropped acid with Kesey and The Pranksters, and even embarked with them on their fabled Bus Trip, but decided to jump ship in Berkeley. What was the figurative fork in the road that led to their parting of ways? What did Marcus think of Neal Cassady?

V.N.They weren't really on the same vector in the first place...As in all other situations, Marcus went into it looking for strong Solarians, and left with the ones he found. Also, it was described as "the first test-drive", not THE cross-country trip, which started out going south, not north. Marcus was basically just hitching a ride. He liked Neal Cassady, but considered him kind of primitive in some ways. He also enjoyed swapping war stories with Ken Babbs, whom he had previously known from a brief encounter in Vietnam.

A.G. What do you think of the Rave Scene?

V.N. If the "Solarity" (as we call it) was as numerous and active now as it was in the Sixties and afterwards, we would be infiltrating the Rave Scene in search of young Solarians with high potential. I'm sure there are plenty of them there.

A.G. Is Terence McKenna another countercultural Ophidian icon dressed in sheep's clothing?

V.N. I wouldn't go so far as to say that. He's a druggie with partly flaky, partly interesting ideas.

A.G. What was Marcus' favorite rock 'n' roll band?

V.N. In general, rock 'n' roll was an Ophidian development, which "Part 1: Magic War" makes pretty clear. There were a couple of Moody Blues pieces Marcus liked. But as indicated, the Solarity created its own genre. I lost touch with the music scene after '85, and feared that nothing had survived the destruction of the Earth Colonies. It's just this year that some new Solarian friends have turned me on to a whole sort of sub-genre I hadn't known existed. It includes the likes of Sol Invictus, Blood Axis, Swans, In the Nursery, and others. It's so much like the music of the Solarity that at first I thought some of the actual artists must have escaped the burning and assumed new identities. Later I found out that wasn't so, but these new artists were obviously directly influenced by our music. Some of the groups started up right around '85 and '86. It would be absurd to call this music rock 'n' roll.

A.G. You once mentioned that Marcus attended one of John Phillip's parties. Maury Terry's "The Ultimate Evil" and also Ed Saunder's "The Family" connected Phillips and his circle of rock stars and Hollywood jett-setters to the Process Church, Satanism and the Manson Family. What did Marcus have to say about these parties?

V.N. He never said much about that scene, except for general comments on its diabolism. And he rescued a couple of souls from it... He noted that Manson had some anti-Ophidian ideas, but was just too pathological to put them to good use.

A.G. What were some of Manson's anti-Ophidian ideas?

V.N. Like Marcus, Charles Manson had the reputation of being a "right-wing hippie". . . and there actually was some substance behind the stereotype. Unlike the Ophidianized hippies, both restricted membership in their communities to Solarians. Manson has been quoted as refering specifically to certain Ophidian groupings as the primal enemy. Both Manson and Marcus were embodiments of the resurgent masculine principle in a feminized age.

It's also important not to buy into the official media interpretation of the Manson killings. The media establishment is one of the bastions of the Ophidian Empire, and the people who were killed at the Tate house that night were all stars and hierarchs in that sleazy, drug-besotted inner circle. They were not innocent victims. Marcus went about the revolution in a saner and more methodical way, but the same power-circles were the targets. If we had won, the entire Hollywood establishment would have been disbanded, by any means necessary -- along with Wall Street, International Finance, the Federal Government, etc. And A LOT of "ordinary", "innocent" middle-class Americans would have been rudely awakened from their piggish, fantasyland lives-- like the LaBiancas, for instance.

A.G. Did Hitler have any anti-Ophidian ideas? If so, that seems the greatest of contradictions, in that Hitler seemed in total opposition to what I perceive to be the highest of Solarian ideals.

V.N. He who controls the past controls the future. If the world is ruled by a degenerate and evil Cryptocracy possessed of the most powerful instruments of mind control ever known, and if that Cryptocracy had been challenged by a power which embodied the opposite values of regeneration and positive ideals, and if that power had come within a hair of defeating the Cryptocracy, only to be finally and totally crushed -- then obviously the Cryptocracy would use its tools to utterly falsify and distort the historical record so as to make its defeated opponent seem to be the epitome of ultimate despicable evil.

Another famous quote: everything you've been told is a lie.

A.G. Your use of the word Thule brings to mind Nazi Occultism. Could you elaborate?

V.N. Thule is that sector of the Metasphere (the spiritual world) that is the home of the Solarian Metazon. As conscious Solarians, the "Ariosophists" of pre-World War I Germany were obviously aware of this fact, and it's not surprising that they named one of their spiritual orders after it.

A.G. Are The Solarians from a specific gene pool?

V.N. Yes. In the first version of the "Statement on Marcus Geist", it says:

"Solarians are people of European Christian descent, no matter if they are not still practicing Christians, nor how many generations ago their forebears left the ancestral homeland. They are also people whose traditions were shaped by the High Culture of European Civilization -- no matter how much this culture and those traditions have been suppressed and perverted by the Ophidian mind-control media.

And even narrower is the definition of Solarian, for many people who fit the above description have permanently sold their souls to the poisonous doctrines of those who are Ophidians by birth and nurture, and thus have joined their ranks. . . and will fall with them when their Empire dies, or is overthrown. But to all Solarians who awake belongs the future!"

A.G. Did Marcus believe (and do you?) that the Aryan race is superior to other races?

V.N. "Supremacy" and "superiority" are false issues raised by the Ophidians to suppress resistance and conceal their own rulership. Many groups have collectively self-affirmative cultural and religious assumptions. For instance, Jews believe that they are the Chosen People of God. Does this mean that they believe in Jewish Supremacy? Etc.

A.G. Is what you've referred to as Metaplasm similar to the Orgone energy discovered by Wilhelm Reich?

V.N. Yes, indeed.

A.G. And conversely, is the negative Metaplasm created by Ophidians the same as DOR (Deadly Orgone)?

V.N. I think you have just made your own creative contribution to the theory. It may well be accurate. I'm only superficially acquainted with Reich.

A.G. Did Marcus ever tap into Kundalini?

V.N. The spiritual training, practices, and experiences described in "Part 2: Wunderkind" all involve the activation and use of kundalini.

A.G. Did Marcus feel that Mankind's destiny was pre-ordained. Or is the concept of Free Will a determining factor in the future of Humanity?

V.N. This is Western dualism, the problem Marcus encountered in his private studies as recorded in "Wunderkind", and which he resolved in his education in the East. A snappy answer might be that Man accomplishes his pre-ordained destiny by means of his Free Will.

A.G. Was the Solarian Movement driven underground by the passing of Marcus?

V.N. Yes, it was. I became isolated from it when in 1986 I returned to Philadelphia to be reunited with my young son. I spent the next seven years there doing my dharma in a personal way. I tried to reignite the Geist amongst Solarians I met, but was not notably successful. Things are picking up a little bit now that I'm back in California. By mutual agreement, I'm not attempting to get back in touch with the surviving Earth Colonies in Latin America, except of course psychically. So I really have no idea how many people are there now.

A.G. JFK's life--like Christ--I feel has certain parallels to that of Marcus'. Rumor has it JFK became enlightened through LSD, and apparently was on the verge of shaking up the hidden power structure within the US, and cleaning house. On his hit list was the Mafia, the CIA and the Federal Reserve, among other holy cows. I believe his head was blown off as a result. Was JFK a witting (or unwitting) Solarian?

V.N. He sure double-crossed the Ophidians. To put his presidency in the largest historical context, consider that the two major sub-entities of the Solarian metazon are the Nordics and the Catharyans -- a division which roughly (but not exactly) corresponds to the division of Europe between Protestant and Catholic. In the United States, where the Nordics had been dominant, the Ophidians constantly tried to use the Catharyans to further their own agenda. The election of Kennedy was the result of a pact between the Ophidians and the Catharyans to pick up where FDR had left off and push through the next major phase of that agenda. So obviously the Ophidians were very unhappy when Kennedy attempted to change direction.

A.G. Were the respective fates of Kennedy and Marcus an inevitable prospect in the world of today?

V.N. This will be clarified in "Part 9: Almost Armageddon"; but in general, I'm afraid so. New positive developments will no longer be possible until after we get this Godforsaken Kali Yuga finished up and over with, and it's going to take a real Apocalypse/Ragnarok to accomplish that. Shiva is the God to look to now. Then what will make the Golden Age arise out of the chaos will be the conventicle of Solarians ready to establish a primal civilization.

A.G. Do you see any parallels to what happened to R. Marcus and what went down at Waco and Ruby Ridge? It seems to have become a common and almost predictable occurrence.

V.N. Right. We're moving closer to the apocalyptic climax and closure of the Kali Yuga. The Earth Colonies represented the LAST TIME the resources of the present order could be used in a peaceful way for the good of Solarians. Marcus was the LAST CHANCE for the revival of Western Civilization.

Marcus was an Avatar of Shiva, and the strategy now is to serve him in that aspect. The mantra is:

AUM SHIVA TANDEVAYA NAMA OM!
Translation: Hail to Shiva doing the dance of destruction!

A.G. Is there a mutual dialogue that can be reached between the Solarians, Ophidians and those among us who are searching for a meaning to this apparent madness we call life, and are not yet sure which is the best path to follow? You must admit that not all Ophidians have a clue that they are traveling down a crooked path. Like sinners, can they not be redeemed? For all I know, I might be an Ophidian.

V.N. The hardcore Ophidians are well aware of their identity, and totally and absolutely reject all attempts at dialogue. The ones who don't have a clue are not Ophidians but dupes, many of them Solarians who have been soul-raped and stripped of their spiritual identity. These are the ones who can be redeemed -- but unfortunately, for the majority, that's not likely to happen. The only redemption for them will be Ragnarok.

A.G. What does the "R." in Marcus' name stand for?

V.N. That would be giving away too much too soon. You'll have to settle for a riddle:

Jesus H. Christ
And R. Marcus Geist. . .
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John --
What was the rock they were built upon?
Saul of Tarsus, Simon Peter,
Doubting Thomas, both and neither;
In the mind of a single Gnostic
Was born the fateful metacrostic.

A.G. Hmmmm.


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