View Full Version : Post counts and user info.
Wintermute
2003-11-24, 04:48
I've removed them on a temporary to permanent basis, in the hopes of taming the rampant "MY POST COUNT IS 4000 and I've only been here a WEEK!" sort of users we've had a lot of lately. Along with that, I'm forced to remove registered date and location, limitations of the software we use.
You can still view all of a user's info by clicking the profile button above each of their posts.
Nice, How many post do I have, that's right you don't know!
coldwarr2000
2003-11-24, 05:17
^^ 1495 posts
sorry but I think that this kinda sucks, im not saying its like bad but it just seems to be so empty next to the name. In my opinion I think that the post count and location and all that should be brought back, some of the locations people put where clever. because some people decided to make dumbass threads like that doesnt mean you should get rid of all of the peoples post counts or locations.
oh well this was my futile attempt to bring back our post counts.
[This message has been edited by coldwarr2000 (edited 11-24-2003).]
quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:
I've removed them on a temporary to permanent basis, in the hopes of taming the rampant "MY POST COUNT IS 4000 and I've only been here a WEEK!" sort of users we've had a lot of lately. Along with that, I'm forced to remove registered date and location, limitations of the software we use.
You can still view all of a user's info by clicking the profile button above each of their posts.
I have to say its about dam time... I wish the date you registered was still posted, but the post count was stupid to begin with. I don't care if you have a post count of 5k if all of them were crap. Agian Thank you
SilentKill
2003-11-24, 05:34
i think they should be there.. so you know if your talking to some one experinced, and in the know... and you could at least keep the From: thing....
I agree with your judgment Suzie, I just hope the rest of totse can handle it as well.
TOWCHBob
2003-11-24, 06:14
I'm fine with it. It does look a bit empty but I'll get used to it. I wonder how long until the topics start popping up in spurious...
Das Gorilla
2003-11-24, 07:51
Post counts were removed to stop st00pid threads about post counts. Ironically this will probably generate 10^23 more st00pid threads in spurious/b&m about the post count being removed.
Wintermute
2003-11-24, 08:10
There's one active thread in spurious right now about all of this - I've made a fair few replies to various questions about this, so if you'd like more information, refer there.
nevermind
2003-11-24, 10:20
I guess it will take away a lot of the n00b bashing when people who have just signed up post, just because they have a low post count. it does seem awfully empty over there though http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)-maybe something elseshould go there?
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TheParkinator
2003-11-24, 12:59
I advise you give back the location and registered date.
When a man grows old, he has certain features about him that people can remember from when he was a child. Over the internet we see no faces, no wrinkles or scars.
What I'm getting to is that it will be harder to recognise someone. Our hair, tatoos, and faces have been hidden.
havocdaemon
2003-11-24, 13:27
So you're telling us that you won't ban idiots because we should be the ones to disregard their statements on our own, but you're taking away our post counts in an effort to make us ignore the number of times they've posted here, which can be a good judge of character? Obviously you'll know when you're reading shit. And if you're reading shit created by someone with 10,000 posts, you know that they're a spammer. Shit by someone with only 5 posts, a noob or a troll.
Is this not seriously hypocritical?
I'm well aware no one is stopping me from checking the profile pages, but I don't think anyone is really going to bother. That's like having to read everyones post in two steps, and it's tiring. I really like this site, and I've learned a lot from it, and (contrary to what some would believe) have brought my share of knowledge here. And I don't like this new change.
Just adding my two cents to this trial.
etcetablah
2003-11-24, 15:31
I like it. Now you'll have to judge and recognise members for the quality of their posting and not their postcounts. Three thumbs up.
Homesniper
2003-11-24, 17:05
noooooo wheres my stepladder http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
Relentless
2003-11-24, 17:48
How about replacing the empty space with an Avatar? Its perfect..
Btw.. now we can just recognize members by the dumb asses they really are http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by Relentless (edited 11-24-2003).]
I think it's a great idea; now people won't spam like crazy to get a few more posts (yes I know the count is still visible in the profile), newbies won't immediately be marked as n00bs for having very few posts, and people like Gus and mizled won't have people hating them off the bat for their post count.
quote:Originally posted by HavocDaemon:
Obviously you'll know when you're reading shit. And if you're reading shit created by someone with 10,000 posts, you know that they're a spammer. Shit by someone with only 5 posts, a noob or a troll.
Of course you'll know if you're reading shit, but you won't judge someone with a high post count and one shitty post a spammer from reading that one awful post, and the same goes for newbs. One crap post and you would otherwise brand them n00b or troll, this way you might wait until you've read their other posts until you hate them.
Overall, I think this is a great move http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
IsAnyBodyThere
2003-11-24, 17:54
its okay, but the from and date posted are important to me where as post count it not, just my 2 cents
havocdaemon
2003-11-24, 19:04
Shut up Sigster.
...crazy drunken Irish... http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
Now there will be "My gray space is better than yours!!11" threads coming along.
<<< Oh yea.
At least now noobs won't be flamed out of their tiny little heads because they have a post count of seven. They will now be flamed for having such shit posts.
Rightly so.
Wrong forum. This should've been posted in
Bad Ideas
..
Well, not really, but. I disagree with this strongly. At least the "registered:" and "from:" should be kept.. I understand that there are limitations with the forum software, but perhaps when the forum software is updated?
- Phlab
Shadow88
2003-11-24, 20:24
quote:Originally posted by Guswut:
I agree with your judgment Suzie, I just hope the rest of totse can handle it as well.
Eh Guswut, you seem to to have something brown on your nose...
SpaceFalcon2001
2003-11-24, 20:58
quote:Originally posted by nevermind:
I guess it will take away a lot of the n00b bashing when people who have just signed up post, just because they have a low post count.
Well actually it's a problematic cycle. The older users would make fun of new ones based on the low post count, causing them to binge, and then they get made fun of for high post counts. Interesting. Oh well, I think it is too blank, even if a good idea. Maybe hand us some avatars at the least admins. How bout we give that a shot since we are trying these sorts of things?
jumpunderaboat
2003-11-24, 21:09
Then opening pages will get slowed down, probably not something anyone would want.
I feel naked... I could care less about post count but it would be nice to have something cover up the less plain space to help give us a little identity.
quote:Originally posted by TheParkinator:
I advise you give back the location and registered date.
When a man grows old, he has certain features about him that people can remember from when he was a child. Over the internet we see no faces, no wrinkles or scars.
What I'm getting to is that it will be harder to recognise someone. Our hair, tatoos, and faces have been hidden.
Don't you listen Parkinator? She said that they have to get rid of it limitations of the software. Jesus Christ I have no patience for you kind of people.
met_B_A_N_S
2003-11-24, 21:43
quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:
I've removed them on a temporary to permanent basis, in the hopes of taming the rampant "MY POST COUNT IS 4000 and I've only been here a WEEK!" sort of users we've had a lot of lately. Along with that, I'm forced to remove registered date and location, limitations of the software we use.
You can still view all of a user's info by clicking the profile button above each of their posts.
Your post count was 4000, even though you've been here longer than most of us. Dude, now I'm pissed because I have no reason to flame anyone right now because no newbs are talking about how l33t they are with theire huge post counts.
I HAVE 514 POSTS!!!!!!! I OWN J00!
deadlycindy
2003-11-24, 23:04
I didn't know the post count situation was such a big deal--big enough to warrant removing all the info to the left of the post. I often enjoyed seeing the info, though I didn't use it to make judgements.
Seems those who need to annoy on this board will find a way to continue to do so in ways other than harping on post counts. This just seems like one of those drastic measures that everyone "suffers for" due to the actions of a few.
Meh. I don't have the admin perspective, so I'll defer to y'alls judgement.
dark-easterbunny
2003-11-24, 23:15
mm... gone miss callin people noobs if you see they got like... 1 post... but hell, you can reconize noobs anyways... buttuh..we should find someone who can improve the software, cause damn is miss the location where i come form
(haha... i actually looked in news of the temple instead of makin a stupid new thread about this)
havocdaemon
2003-11-24, 23:15
I still say the whole thing is hypocritical.
quote:Originally posted by deadlycindy:
I didn't know the post count situation was such a big deal--big enough to warrant removing all the info to the left of the post. I often enjoyed seeing the info, though I didn't use it to make judgements.
Seems those who need to annoy on this board will find a way to continue to do so in ways other than harping on post counts. This just seems like one of those drastic measures that everyone "suffers for" due to the actions of a few.
Meh. I don't have the admin perspective, so I'll defer to y'alls judgement.
Unfortunately, that is the case with our current situation, people are just going to find a way around not having that, and I bet you that someone will start another "My postcount is 666, hahaha!" thread or something like that just to piss us all off.
Mojo Hojo
2003-11-24, 23:30
It would be interesting if we could have a system where we all begin with 0 rating and get rated by people who see our posts and or topics. People with high ratings (the important one) will add greatly to your rating but people with low ratings (idiots) will barly affect you. so your history is all that is visible and people can judge you on it.
Opinionation
guernica
2003-11-24, 23:37
I agree with the whole "bring back location and registration date" idea. It's so sad over there!!! <------------ But the post count removal, probably a good plan, at least until the "noob" wave dies down and everyone stops being an asshole.
It's not your post amount, it's what you do with it that counts...!
Disaster_Master
2003-11-25, 00:06
thats good, maybe there will finally be less little dickhead uberkewl newbs going around saying "i'm no newb, i have 300 posts!"
The_messiah
2003-11-25, 01:12
Could Admin replace the huge blank space where users info was with avatars (that users would choose of course)? This way the left side of forum topics would'nt look so blank and it would be easier on the eyes.
I don;t think you can put those in with the UBB we got here.
King_Midas
2003-11-25, 01:40
yes! avatars!
if you have them uploaded from users to Totse then it would cost some bandwidth, but would bring in new users (not nessecarily a bad thing http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)) or you could have them remotely linked. do whatever you want, I don't own totse..... yet http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
MUAHAHAHAHAHAA!
--- http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif) ---
insideout138
2003-11-25, 01:56
Yeah, I think avatars would be nice, it would give a "face" to people. They could just say have to be on your own server, so it wouldn't cost them any money, and I'd say make them no bigger than AIM buddy icons.
I know it's been said before, and they said there was a reason why they didn't have them, so I really doubt it'll happen.
Peace And Love
2003-11-25, 02:03
i think you should update the BBS system all together. like check out harmonycentral.com BBS. alot nicer and newer. but i would rather post here anytime. but a new BBS software would work wonders.
Well if you're going to take the location away, give us a text signature or small avitar. We need some sort of personalization.
bunghole
2003-11-25, 02:48
quote:Originally posted by Mojo Hojo:
It would be interesting if we could have a system where we all begin with 0 rating and get rated by people who see our posts and or topics. People with high ratings (the important one) will add greatly to your rating but people with low ratings (idiots) will barly affect you. so your history is all that is visible and people can judge you on it.
Opinionation
I think thats a dumb idea, I don't need to come on the internet to get my self-esteem boosted by bullshit ratings.
I don't really like this change because I like to be able to see a bit of information about the poster next to their message, it is useful and fun. And there are always going to be bullshit posts about one thing or another, but who cares? They're not cutting into your profits or pissing on your front lawn. I don't think it would be a bad idea to upgrade the bbs software so that we could get some of the user info back next to the posts (except for postcount so uptight people can be happy). Also there are other benifits to newer bbs software such as PMs (private messages, similar to e-mails but they are within the bbs). As for avatars and signatures they are ok on other boards but I like totse better the way it is without them.
KottonMouthKing
2003-11-25, 03:26
quote:Originally posted by Mojo Hojo:
It would be interesting if we could have a system where we all begin with 0 rating and get rated by people who see our posts and or topics. People with high ratings (the important one) will add greatly to your rating but people with low ratings (idiots) will barly affect you. so your history is all that is visible and people can judge you on it.
Opinionation
Kind of like a user rating system? Like the karma system over at www.overgrow.com (http://www.overgrow.com)
They don't have too many 'up to post count' thread's. Instead they have "give me +k and I will give you +k". If that's what your getting at, we will still have the same problem's.
SublimeZen124
2003-11-25, 03:39
This may have been mentioned as a solution to the emptiness (sp?) under the name. Like most other forums, people could uplaod either a (small) picture or quote. I know that Totse is mostly a text-based BBS but we might as well liven it up a little.
SephirothAngelus
2003-11-25, 03:48
PHTom1 you better hope Halifax doesn't find out you were on here!!
Anyway, if we had avatars then loading times wouldn't be up that much. In a day, if you read say 5 of the forums, you'll see 50 posts? How many will be from the same people? You will probably have to load about 3 avatars a day. It would be slow the first time but your computer would store it under temporary internet files, and loading the few that weren't stored on your cpu would only take a few seconds if you had broadband, and not much longer than loading a new ad or a thumbnail to a pic.
TheParkinator
2003-11-25, 03:49
quote:Originally posted by PHTom1:
Don't you listen Parkinator? She said that they have to get rid of it limitations of the software. Jesus Christ I have no patience for you kind of people.
I never beleived in limitations, but it would take some editing and strong knowledge of the software. Maybe I should have elaborated? Well I'm just that kind of person. The sky is blue.
Disaster_Master
2003-11-25, 03:52
a couple of suggestions... avatars would be good, but only if the occasional totse superlag porblems were solved... also, i think that the location and month joined should be returned... just a suggestion
like many others have said i think that it is good that the post counts are gone but ther should still be the location and date registered.
cool! Suddenly i'm not new anymore!
Wintermute
2003-11-25, 05:39
As I said, the software is limited. It's not my choice what gets updated or not, Jeff is the only one that decides that. We will NOT have avatars or images however, regardless of anything else. They serve no purpose, they're a pain in the butt (constant "CAN I HAVE THIS AVATAR" etc topics) and they DO slow down connection speed and increase bandwidth usage. Personally, I read enough pages to see posts from upwards of a couple of hundred users every day.. Even on broadband, that's gonna take quite some time.
Acid-Killer
2003-11-25, 06:51
^Word Yo
FreakyAnomaly
2003-11-25, 09:31
quote:Originally posted by SpaceFalcon2001:
Well actually it's a problematic cycle. The older users would make fun of new ones based on the low post count, causing them to binge, and then they get made fun of for high post counts.
This is so true. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
quote:Originally posted by Guswut:
I agree with your judgment Suzie, I just hope the rest of totse can handle it as well.
just keep that to yourself, thats just a useless post, your just sucking up or somthing.
It's something that is typical in ALL things in life.
Near Christmas, things change. A sense of emptiness and unease spreads.
It's all because of Christmas.
Over at another forum I use (s10forum.com) they have a system where if you have posts between like 1-500 it says 'Posts:More than 1' then after like 500 it says shit like 'Posts:Too many'..
It can't be that hard to script if they do it. That would solve the problem with the locations and other stuff..
Thats just my $0.02
r007 ph07oN
2003-11-26, 00:46
eh, i kind of liked reading the "from:" entries. some were quite creative and amusing. :\
coldwarr2000
2003-11-26, 03:46
There will always be stupid threads and stupid people but what can you do? get rid of all that sets us apart? make us all the "same"? why not give all of us moderater privilages or take the moderater privilages away from the mods. this place is a world of questions and answers, flames and gloating, people and idiots. LET US BE DIFFERENT!
[/speech]
~CW~
Ahhh. First problem encountered. Fake names:
http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum3/HTML/020742.html
Now eagerly waiting for a member called
'Snooopy'
or
'WIntermute'
or similar.
ATypiCalStuDenT
2003-11-26, 11:22
precious.... my precious post count and location!
seriously, the location was great, it gave each totse member a small place to express who they were, or what they were feeling at the moment.
It was an expression of our personalities (if you are like me and have several!)
pls bring them back!
I think the bragging-type posters weren't all that bad; as long as you delete their topics, which wouldn't take nothing but a few minutes to do, then it'd be alright.
I ask that you bring them back.
ArmsMerchant
2003-11-26, 21:45
I guess I grok the reasoning, but I still hate it. Seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
the meth god
2003-11-26, 21:53
Its not how much you have its how you use what you have.
insideout138
2003-11-27, 00:34
Hmmm, why not get rid of post counts completly? Like others have pointed out you will probably stil get some "I have x posts" posts, so why not take them out of the profiles too? They serve no purpose really, just some random stat. Maybe the software won't allow them to be removed, or maybe they serve some purpose unknown to me.
Tru_Souljer
2003-11-27, 02:01
well, kudos to me for starting this whole thing http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
but yeah, i think its a move for the better
ts
XliMun(Frontalobe)~
2003-11-27, 14:24
Actually tru, if you take a look at the thread you are refering to, I suggested it first. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif) Well, I asked the question which spawned the possible likelyhood of current events.
" http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)"
bribble13
2003-11-28, 03:09
get the hell over it. no you can't have you're damn avatars. no they can't bring back your location and date registered because of software limitations. no they won't change it because you think you're special and that if you personally ask somethign will happen, it won't. really you're not. if you want somethign to happen, code up some new bbs software and give it to enigma or someone. shut up. quit bitching. and go post and iof the only way you can get attention is by your post count and location then you don't deserve membership on any bb.
yeah i think we should have your post count, date of regestrie(sp?), and location. so you know when your talking to someone thats been around totse a long time and you can ask them questions that you cant ask n00bs. well thats my 2 cents... hope you like my suggestion.
B_I
static_firefly
2003-11-29, 14:30
Post counts didnt bother me but the price of loseing them was our location and stuff..and i liked that
post counts, what are they?
slasher_13
2003-11-29, 21:29
Oh, I thought it was all gone. YAY!
Thought about this for about 30 seconds, and 95% of the people here aren't mature enough to have an avitar anyway. Maybe a 1 line text signature would work, but that seems like it.
I still like the idea to get rid of ALL information, that would be just funny as hell...
"^You're a fag"
"No I'm not!"
"I was talking to him, dipshit!"
"Hey, I am him!"
"No you're not, you are you!"
Or maybe just have post counts, and no names, let us see the system "work" like that, hehehe.
Jackal919
2003-11-30, 20:24
If we had avatars it would just be porn and Goatse stuff. Bad idea.
deadkennedy
2003-12-01, 04:29
quote:Originally posted by Jackal919:
If we had avatars it would just be porn and Goatse stuff. Bad idea.
Well, the mods would be able to delete them of course.
quote:Originally posted by Guswut:
I agree with your judgment Suzie, I just hope the rest of totse can handle it as well.
*Rolls Eyes*
=====valid point?=====
What if, what if, the 'Regular' and 'member' options where taken away too?
Because after 50 posts that information becomes irrelevant.
Agent Boris_KGB
2003-12-03, 02:09
Nice idea, But it removes some of our freedoms. I say they can be considered freedoms in a way they were given to us freely by the software, now they have been taken away for safety against spam.
"They that can give up liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benny Franklin
[This message has been edited by Agent Boris_KGB (edited 12-03-2003).]
Wintermute
2003-12-03, 05:42
quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:
=====valid point?=====
What if, what if, the 'Regular' and 'member' options where taken away too?
Because after 50 posts that information becomes irrelevant.
Good point, I already did that at the same time as removing post counts.. just that noone noticed yet..
MrEricSir
2003-12-03, 10:16
quote:Originally posted by Agent Boris_KGB:
"They that can give up liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benny Franklin
I doubt Franklin was referring to online forums when he said that.
Agent Boris_KGB
2003-12-03, 11:07
quote:Originally posted by MrEricSir:
Originally posted by Agent Boris_KGB:
"They that can give up liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benny Franklin
I doubt Franklin was referring to online forums when he said that.
Ah, but you think so two dimensional comrade. Many things can apply to other things and still carry the same meaning.
There should be more user ranks than member and regular, if we can't have post counts. I dunno if it's a good idea with all those 4000 posts a week ppl, but it might help us see who's new and stuff :>
kj
quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:
=====valid point?=====
What if, what if, the 'Regular' and 'member' options where taken away too?
Because after 50 posts that information becomes irrelevant.
Yeah but the administrator and moderator titles are shown there aswell.
coldwarr2000
2003-12-03, 21:27
ok i see thay we wont get our post counts back but at least can we get signatures
~CW~
Wintermute
2003-12-04, 09:00
Logical, sane, reasonable reasons for returning things to you or giving things to you is the only reasons I will listen to. "I want this because it would be cool or I want this because I want it" are not good reasons.
bribble13
2003-12-04, 09:09
i think people are fucked off because they lost their medium for individuality. they liked it because it was effortless and gave them the opportunity to feel like they knew a bit more about each other for it. if maybe you give us signitures then we'll have a medium for individuality again and people will be happy. and if you sell it as a trade off then things will be primo. we'll quit bitching and soon everbody will forget about not having post counts and the from thingy.
dbribble.
quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:
Logical, sane, reasonable reasons for returning things to you or giving things to you is the only reasons I will listen to. "I want this because it would be cool or I want this because I want it" are not good reasons.
I'll buy a totse T-shirt if you give 'em back.
Red User
2003-12-04, 23:33
I have yet to see consent from any other admin wintermute.
Wintermute
2003-12-05, 05:11
Just because they didn't post their consent here, doesn't mean they didn't give it...
As for individuality, what's so hard about being an individual through your posts? Signatures are generally just quotes from other people.. what's so original about saying something someone else has said first?.. or what's so individual about that?
bribble13
2003-12-05, 10:13
i forget what i was thinking about when i posted that but right now, this whole thing seems like a "get over it and move on" sort of argument. so in the words of the great dbribble, "get over it and move on" you lot!
Digital Espionage
2003-12-07, 07:20
People that disregard a post by someone with a low post count just because they are a "n00b" are stupid. Judgements should be based on the quality of a post, not the number of posts that a person has. Someone who has never posted on this forum before can have something just as intelligent to say as any "veteran totse member." Personally it doesn't bother me that post counts aren't so readily displayed anymore. Lets evaluate a person by how good/bad their posts are, and not by how many times they have clicked a submit button.
-Digital
neville122333
2003-12-09, 21:12
damm u people! nahh only joking, its just i need to no wat my score is coz im tryin to notch it up to a neat lil average over my fairly long time here.
mesbekevin
2003-12-10, 19:38
"The lord giveth and the lord taketh away."
"The lord works in mysterious ways"
Seems like a cop out but who cares about post count. It dosent say the percent of good posts.
bornfreetaxedtodeath
2003-12-11, 20:33
I also think that Signatures would be good.
It's all well and good to say be individual by your posts but who here can honestly say they remember more than half a dozen posters names here?
Signatures/Locations allow each of your posts to be personal and allow that bit more personalisation that helps distinguish people.
Just my 2 cents...
Getting rid of the post count.. in a metaphorical way, it's like going out with a really fat guy.
You get relaxed, and stop weighing. YOu ignore the nagging thought at the back of your head that says 'slow down a little..' .
And then one day, the guy dumps you, and you go to the scales..
And that day when you go to weigh is like the day the post counts come back.
In both situations,the response would be something like:
''AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! NO! NO NO NO NO!!''.
panthrax
2003-12-15, 10:49
I personally feel we should have the post count back. But that is just me. I think when you take away the post count, you are taking away the amount of time a person has spent here at totse. It's like when a marathon runner runs 1344 miles in a month, he gets to have that record for everyone to see if they wish. When it is taken away, its like "You mean I ran all those miles and now, nobody can see the effort I put into it?"
I think that is an interesting standpoint. How bout' you?
slasher_13
2003-12-16, 11:04
I do not really see the point of taking away post counts, sure there was a lot of useless threads about it, but not as many as alot of people try to imply. They weren't hurting anything. The bottom line is some one with 200+ post counts is a more avid member than someone with 5 or 6, it's the cold sad truth, and from what I've seen most people with only few posts only post just that, a few times. I always liked the info on the side, even if you leave out post counts at least put the location, it helped kind of show the posters personality a little bit, but at least put something....
the meth god
2003-12-17, 03:51
quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:
I've removed them on a temporary to permanent basis, in the hopes of taming the rampant "MY POST COUNT IS 4000 and I've only been here a WEEK!" sort of users we've had a lot of lately. Along with that, I'm forced to remove registered date and location, limitations of the software we use.
You can still view all of a user's info by clicking the profile button above each of their posts.
I guess i can agree with you on getting a flood of posts.However i thought it was kinda cool to have where the user was from posted.that was everyones personal signature i liked reading everyones and i dont see why that also was removed.But i guess this aint no democracy and you have the right to run this web site whatever way you see fit but its something to think about.TMG
Thehurricane
2003-12-17, 06:02
ok im going to cry now. thanx alot suz
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RedMoPho
2003-12-18, 07:11
I think that not only should post counts stay removed, but 'regular' and 'moderator' or 'administrator' be removed as well. Mods and admins don't need it to be widely known for them to do their jobs, and it would promote the idea that quality of posts determines social status here, not post counts or the ability to move threads around.
I like RedMoPho's idea, I think that would make all look equal.
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But we're not equal! They have power. POWER I TELL YOU!!!, plus then you wouldn't look better than me. <-- nevermind I'm a Regualr Now. WOO!
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Concept Lost
2003-12-21, 07:36
Simple conflict here.
In general the post counts / Date-registered are desired by those with higher post counts, and especially by those with older registration dates. This signifies them as veterans of the forum, and in itself has a valuable merit. Those with lower counts and newer registration dates will be more alligned to have these features removed, out of fear of bias judgement and inferiority. The 'from' detail is however neutral, and many people had interesting notes, that added to their identity. As for leaving out the date registers and/or post count, it really will really doesn't matter too much, and would create equality to all of the users, just eliminating the status quo of the veterans. I highly doubt the administrators would go as far as to remove their status positions, but that would be very respectable.
The word is elitism.
Suzie explained that post count cannot be eliminated without also eliminating the location feature in this UBB system.
As for eliminating the moderator and administrator designations; it seems to be their choice to retain them for some reason.
Vindicatus
2003-12-21, 22:59
Thank you for the opportunity to remain anonymous. I think it is a good thing to level the feild now and again. Since the changes were made, ive noticed a significant reduction of "posting for the post of it" kind of activity. The temple has come a long way. I'm sticking it out, every chance i get.
V
Wintermute
2003-12-22, 19:01
I thought about removing the admin and moderator designations, but the simple fact is, all we'd end up with is more people not knowing who to ask about certain things and more bullshit topics all the time saying things like "who owns this place" etc... In certain cases, it's necessary for my opinion or zoks, for example, to have more weight, like when answering questions about totse itself, whether it's rules or whatever. Same thing in various forums, sometimes it's necessary for a moderators opinion to carry more weight, because generally they're expected to know the answers to many questions in their forums.. It's better to have a moderator for say, backyard ballistics, be recognised as such when they post, in the hope that they are less likely to advise someone into a situation that's negative or illinformed..
I know some might take this as me not wanting to remove the 'status' of moderators and admins because I *am* promoting elitism, but it's more a convenience than anything else, we need a little distinction in order to make it clear *where* users need to turn for help and assistance..
OK. Thanks, Wintermute. That was well said.
Nymphomaniac
2003-12-28, 06:06
is it at all possible to retain "moderator" and "administrator", and lose the "regular" and "member" part? or does it all go together like the location and the post count?
i am kind of torn in this topic. i can understand why wintermute's and zok's opinions need to have more weight in forums than others, but that also has nothing to do with seniority. it doesnt matter how long they have been on totse because they are mods. at the same time, we need a way to easily recognize what their position is.
Mojo Hojo
2003-12-29, 13:22
Would it be possible to make a graph at each forum to see how many users are online or how much they are travelling? I ask because at night (right now it's morning) I swear I was the only insomniac on S&G who could read topics, reply to them, read articles, create my own topics, and fight off the "unpleasent" people of Totse all at the same time.
when are the post count and stuff coming back
Tokolosh
2003-12-30, 18:48
quote:Originally posted by 2234:
when are the post count and stuff coming back
That's one of the most stupidest things I've ever read.
i like to make things simple
Azachata
2003-12-31, 07:57
Personally I applaud the new changes...Once I was a post-counting nOOb...But not anymore!
Thehurricane
2004-01-02, 06:33
quote:Originally posted by Azachata:
Personally I applaud the new changes...Once I was a post-counting nOOb...But not anymore!
of course you are no longer a post-counting n00b!there is no post count to be counted unless u go around checking everyone out:S
Way2Drunk2Walk
2004-01-03, 22:11
How about you put a signature or something of the like in the gray space?
eesakiwi
2004-01-05, 08:52
Ok I know there was problems with post counting, But now time wasters are coming on, asking questions that have allready been answered a hundred times.
These questions are being answered now because people don't know their 'age' and can't see that its a noob who's only been here for a few days.
On the other hand people who have a legit question don't get answered 'cause people are to busy answering answered questions.
Therefore I propose a post count to, say 50, then a simple grading by the administrators.
For all of the thousasnds of members?
You guys are still talking about this?
Coitainly.
Without the location info, we miss little gems like this:
Stryker
Location: In the bathroom popping an alka-seltzer up my poop hole
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Yes, I agree, a shame indeed. Ah well, what can we do?
CamoCougar
2004-01-07, 01:17
quote:Originally posted by 2234:
when are the post count and stuff coming back
There not,
Einherjar
2004-01-07, 01:57
In other news, what's the deal with the censorship of the name of that guy with the really big stretched asshole?
quote:Originally posted by Einherjar:
In other news, what's the deal with the censorship of the name of that guy with the really big stretched asshole?
It was violently disgusting and was posted everywhere.
You don't just see G0ATSE; you become a G0ATSE veteran.
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eat me sucka
2004-01-09, 05:00
Yeah,it seems like a part that makes up our screenname identity is missing.
Wintermute
2004-01-09, 21:53
You should all realise that old school is better.
Long live the text based user interface. Stop expecting bells and whistles and grow personalities instead.
bornfreetaxedtodeath
2004-01-09, 22:55
I still maintain that no-one can remember many users on the basis of their personality alone on a forum this size.
I think something is needed, such as a signature, to provide indviduality.
As for removing post counts I'm all for it.
You speak of bells and whistles as if they're a bad thing. I like bells and whistles. At least as an option.
I would personaly prefer a gong if it is at all possible. http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
Vindicatus
2004-01-10, 22:00
quote:Originally posted by da_skza:
Nice, How many post do I have, that's right you don't know!
1628
Reading is fun and easy. You should try it.
dizztrezzed
2004-01-14, 04:55
quote:Originally posted by ate:
Hello.
Hi.
angustheotherwhitemeat
2007-04-04, 19:44
Resurrected! :eek:
-Angus
Hello.
Maybe I'm missing something....but, it says you joined in jul 2006, so how did you post in 2004?