This is an EXACT copy of the email that I sent to the moderators and administrators of totse. I thought that on this matter it would be best to share with the members what I shared with the administration.

quote:

I've received a number of emails from moderators and members with concerns about Spurious Generalities. Most with concerns about the number of dumb posts the forum is getting. I figured that I would first address this on the admin list and say that spurious has always been sorta spammy, if that's a word. Many people will tell you that we've always had to deal with posts in the wrong forums and people flaming or making pointless posts. But I can tell you for sure that we've never had this big of a problem. Yesterday, alone, I had to delete a multi-user spam (this was actually more of a flood) with over 20 threads all titled "Don't you just love ____?" where ____ was anything that rhymed with "brand". Only *one* of these posts was valid, the original. The rest had no content and were simply posted because people thought that they would come off as funny by posting it.

I suggest that we expand B&M to encompass the sorts of posts that spurious has been getting spammed with recently. Spurious, for the most part, is for conversation. It doesn't even have to be intellectual conversation, as long as the post has valid content, it’s fine. But when people go to spurious to post threads called "What time is it where you are?" or "How long will it take for a mod to close this thread?" I think that it's going a bit to far. I also suggest that we re-order the forums on the index page. We've done this a few times for traffic reasons, and I suggest that we try it again. It's simply too easy to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and ignore the other forums (the same reason that we originally moved it from the top of the page).

Honestly, people do not know what B&M is for anymore. In fact, I talked to one of the spammers from the other day who tried to justify his actions by saying, and I quote, "But I believe this is spurious, aka trashcan where most of the shit that doesn't belong in bitch & moan goes."

So I suggest that we change the name and description of B&M to inform members that it's not JUST for bitching and moaning, but it's also where they can put their game threads, spam (not floods), and incomplete thoughts which would normally be closed.

In addition to moving things out of spurious and back into B&M, I suggest that (if we do go about this course of action) we make an official post in spurious (or place a forum header there temporarily) so that people will know that spurious is not simply totse's trash-can and that it was once the best conversationalist forum on totse and we do have intentions of keeping it that way.

So I know a lot of you don't post in spurious and many of you actually avoid it, but if you do frequent the forum or if you have seen its recent state, I would appreciate some feedback.

~Zok

This is the official News of the Temple thread. Mostly for referral purposes.

Great job Zok!

I don't even go in Bitch and Moan because its so pointless and I frequently get pissed at all the shitty posts in Spurious. I do not however see the need to rearrange all of the forums because most of them are not interesting to me and the new arrangement is confusing. Another thing, Bad ideas shouldn't be near the top.

One more thing: Bitch and Moan should be renamed Pointless Shit. Its very descriptive.

[This message has been edited by chainy (edited 01-10-2005).]

Is an administator deleting topics in B&M or are people just trying to cover up thier stupidity at being unable to copy 'Mah 1337 5|<1llZ' ?

I think closing registration would solve all of totse's problems. That would stop all of those idiots from flooding SG.

quote:Originally posted by retards_ondrugs:

I think closing registration would solve all of totse's problems. That would stop all of those idiots from flooding SG.

Closing registration was actually and accident. It turned out to be really convienent for a while, I must admit. Oh well.

quote:Originally posted by the evil nerd:

Is an administator deleting topics in B&M or are people just trying to cover up thier stupidity at being unable to copy 'Mah 1337 5|<1llZ' ?

I have no idea what that is.

good job zok, would it be to much to ask if we could have them listed the way they used to be with B&I next to backyad balistics

It doesn't make much of a difference to me about the order because Spurious is my homepage and that is the only forum I go into. At first I didn't liek Green Planet being at top but now that Bongman says that it is getting more traffic than ever than leave it.

I still wish we had some better moderators of Spurious. Red Raven is trying his hardest but it doesn't seem to be enough. Times like these I wish that more_cake was back in Spurious. I don't know where she has been lately.

quote:Originally posted by chainy:

Great job Zok!

I don't even go in Bitch and Moan because its so pointless and I frequently get pissed at all the shitty posts in Spurious. I do not however see the need to rearrange all of the forums because most of them are not interesting to me and the new arrangement is confusing. Another thing, Bad ideas shouldn't be near the top.

One more thing: Bitch and Moan should be renamed Pointless Shit. Its very descriptive.





I like your views on this.

If possible, it would be nice if we could have short-term banning. Something like, the moderators can ban a user for six hours or some number. That would stop a lot of users from posting dumb shit. The only hard part about that would be trusting the mods.

I know you said the name was temporary, but I think you should just call Half Baked "the Trashcan", or "the Sewer" or something along those lines.

Another idea might be to alter how 'hot topics' works.

I mean in the text archive it works well. But perhaps it should show random forums all the time when you're in the BBS, so rather than always getting spurious when you're in spurious you might get W&C or MS.

Just an idea anyway.

quote:Originally posted by acid_burn:

If possible, it would be nice if we could have short-term banning. Something like, the moderators can ban a user for six hours or some number. That would stop a lot of users from posting dumb shit. The only hard part about that would be trusting the mods.

I'm in favor of this. Hell, I don't even know why I haven't been given a warning yet. I'm behaving myself here now, but I admit I've been an ass. It was me Zok quoted, and I did post 4-5 topics with a rhyme in them. A major problem though, are the numerous amounts of STFU's and lists of useless information copied off the net that are posted in these silly threads, making them stay on the first page much longer and annoying a great bunch of people. I get annoyed too, and I tell people to fuck off too, but I'm creative in my ways and I mostly give it a reason. Not unlike many assholes who stalk people in every thread and tell them to go cut themselves because they said something 2 weeks ago about being emo.

(And I apologize for calling SG a shithole, I was in a very bad mood then. This place is a vent for frustrations, but sometimes I'll go too far.)

A major reason for this is (in my opinion, many will not agree) post count. Yes, post count. Many suck it up like it's a valuable thing. I've read hundreds of replies of 'STFU n00b, you only have ____ posts, or you've only been here since ____. What I'm trying to say here is that numerous people try to raise their post count by posting stupid shit, like a single smilie or the despicable 'bump'. What if post count were removed? What's it mean to people anyway? It sure as hell doesn't mean shit to me, and I couldn't care less if my post count didn't show. It'd eliminate about 10 'Yay! 1000th post!' threads a week, but it would also take away many people's badge of honor, making them normal posters like the rest.

And I talked about more and better moderators for Spurious too. It's highly unlikely thet I had anything to do with it. but when I looked at the new spurious I was glad to see Red Raven made his entry. He's active, fair, and knows how to deal with the shit. Zok told me only 4 mods per forum are allowed, and that's a pity for spurious. It was badly in need of more and better (read: more active. Not blaming Lordjugz, I just never noticed him.) moderators. From what I've seen now it looks pretty good, but there's still tons of crap in it. Red Raven talked about having closed/moved almost 80 threads since he was made mod of SG, and wanted a short-term banning system. That's the stuff I'd like to see. Say, a day, and after 3 short bannings you get a 'regular' banning approved by an admin, otherwise a mod may abuse this power. Not that I'm pointing fingers, but you have to deal with all possibilities.

On a side note: is it possibly to sticky certain posts? Of course only those by mods/admins, but it'd leave more of an impact there instead of being in the header.

Zok. I sent you an email the other day. Did you get it?

quote:Originally posted by Nemisis:

Zok. I sent you an email the other day. Did you get it?

Why isnt everything in alphabetical order. I keep getting lost and i cant find where the right forum that im looking for is so it takes me like an hour. I dont like these changes at all.

quote:Originally posted by OMr_duckO:

Why isnt everything in alphabetical order. I keep getting lost and i cant find where the right forum that im looking for is so it takes me like an hour. I dont like these changes at all.

You're not the only one...

Dude, it's fine. There's what. less than 40 fora here? And you can't figure it out?

quote:Originally posted by OMr_duckO:

Why isnt everything in alphabetical order. I keep getting lost and i cant find where the right forum that im looking for is so it takes me like an hour. I dont like these changes at all.



Why did you quote my post?

Mindless spam is annoying,yes.

But what is far more annoying are the posters who are spitefull and malicious and deliberately give false advice and information, yet have the inteligence not to spam or bring much Moderator attention to themselves.

These posters are hard to get rid of and tend to dig in rather like a shard of glass embeded deep within a wound.

quote:Originally posted by Zok:

Closing registration was actually and accident. It turned out to be really convienent for a while, I must admit. Oh well.

I dont think anyone would have any problems if a certain *accident* happened and was left.

*slips Zok a 20 dollar bill*

Hey Zok, why dont you rotate DIY up near the top of the forum list. It may help to expose more people to the forum. You could also do this with the other forums that dont get too much traffic. I know I found alot of forums that I didn't know existed until just now.

Oh and I like the idea of the short term bannings. It would help make people more cautious as to what they post. Because with the way it is know only the Admins can ban, and the admins aren't around as much as the mods.

I'm very pleased with the effort you're making to get the board's lebel up a bit. Thank you.

It has been stated before that the new forum order is a bit hard to get used to. In my case, all I have to do is put Backyard Ballistics directly under my totse hotkey, but I think ot can be quite frustrating for other members.

[sidenote]

Is there any progress in making 30-06 a real moderator by the way?

good job zok. glad to see totse getting back on the right track.

zok, Do u like me?

heheh

hey whered my 20 dollar bill go?

quote:Originally posted by Zok:





incomplete thoughts which would normally be closed.



That made me laught out loud...while I was eating.

quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:

Mindless spam is annoying,yes.

But what is far more annoying are the posters who are spitefull and malicious and deliberately give false advice and information, yet have the inteligence not to spam or bring much Moderator attention to themselves.

These posters are hard to get rid of and tend to dig in rather like a shard of glass embeded deep within a wound.



Your annoying, But what is far more annoying is posters like you and you by yourself, who are spitefull and malicious and deliberately give false advice and information, yet you have no (intelligence)

You are hard to get rid of.

quote:Originally posted by Dangermouse:



Your annoying, But what is far more annoying is posters like you and you by yourself, who are spitefull and malicious and deliberately give false advice and information, yet you have no (intelligence)

You are hard to get rid of.

Boo.

Proof?

There's a few misconceptions hanging around Zok.

With all due respect, I think you maybe missing the point.

People, idiots, go to Spurious, for what it is, it's just that, it's Spurious, its become the home and birthplace of threads like What time is it where you are?" or "How long will it take for a mod to close this thread?"

Unless your going to create a completely new B&M (separate to B&M) and just call it 'Bullshit' this idea may not work.

My 2 cents.

Raven~`

quote:Originally posted by Ravendust:

There's a few misconceptions hanging around Zok.

With all due respect, I think you maybe missing the point.

People, idiots, go to Spurious, for what it is, it's just that, it's Spurious, its become the home and birthplace of threads like What time is it where you are?" or "How long will it take for a mod to close this thread?"

Unless your going to create a completely new B&M (separate to B&M) and just call it 'Bullshit' this idea may not work.

My 2 cents.

Raven~`

If it turns out that Half Baked is also turning somewhat polar as far as posts go, then we could split that and make a complete bullshit forum. But I suggest we get things in the correct place first. We can worry about that later.

more intelligent members would solve all our problems.

quote:Originally posted by PyroHydroSmok:

more intelligent members would solve all our problems.

As in, attract more intelligent members or ban enough stupid ones so the balance shifts to the smart ones' favor?

There's plenty of intelligent people outside of Spurious. I think Spurious is doing fine now with Red Raven a mod, but it could always be improved.

[This message has been edited by umop 3pisdn (edited 01-17-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by PyroHydroSmok:

more intelligent members would solve all our problems.

They are around. It is just a matter of differentiating between the good ones and the majority people. Most of the forums, if not all, outside of sg and b&m seems to have a fair share of clever people.

quote:Originally posted by akdov:

They are around. It is just a matter of differentiating between the good ones and the majority people. Most of the forums, if not all, outside of sg and b&m seems to have a fair share of clever people.

Yes, and if the hot topics were always of a random board, people may go to these more intelligent forums and learn some things. Also, learn to not be dumbasses... because you can't be one in some of these forums or you're automatically hated.

I really want to see hot topics go random.

I've noticed that there are some banned words. What are they. I know ****** becomes ******.

quote:Originally posted by cronic5:

Red Raven is trying his hardest but it doesn't seem to be enough.

Yeah, cronic is right, we need another moderator, like Red Raven, that would actually close all of the pointless threads in Spurious. It also has to be someone like Red Raven, that will actually go on a thread closing/deleting spree (which is a good thing).

Also, why don't you just leave B&M for Bitching and Moaning, and just delete all of the spam?

Spam is useless shit, and we don't need it in any forum.

^^^Im not reading all that!

I dont like these changes at all. It was better in alphabetical order. Plus Half baked sounds like a cooking forum. Cant you be a little more creative zok? Pretty please http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

That ass hole Haywood Jablomi (https://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum18/HTML/001773.html) is pissed at me cause I ratted him out to proboards for hosting porn. He has me on 'probation' on his board but Mizled banned me too.

How can I best get even? Something awesome?

didnt i see this thread before? except with different replies?

quote:Originally posted by Dangermouse:



Your annoying, But what is far more annoying is posters like you and you by yourself, who are spitefull and malicious and deliberately give false advice and information, yet you have no (intelligence)

You are hard to get rid of.

It is not just spurious that is suffering from morons. Here is an example.

Yoyo was actually making a point that was valid, but still managed to get flamed in News of the Temple. That has to say something about the quality that is coming out on these boards.

I definately agree with short term banning's, but I would be inclined to suggest a couple of day's or a week rather then just six hours. I doubt that six hours would be taken seriously.

More moderation would also be a good thing. Is it actually a script reason why there can not be more then four moderators to a forum?

Either way, I would also suggest an instant ban policey for flaming and wasting space in News of the Temple. Just to get rid of the people who like the gimmick of posting here.

These were just my thought's, ignore them if you disagree.

quote:Originally posted by cronic5:

That ass hole Haywood Jablomi (https://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum18/HTML/001773.html) is pissed at me cause I ratted him out to proboards for hosting porn. He has me on 'probation' on his board but Mizled banned me too.

How can I best get even? Something awesome?

Who the hell keeps using my account? Damnit! This is the second time. Zok, if you read this can you find out?

Hey zok remember a long long time ago I was on #totse and I suggested that you rar'd up the text files and torrent it? What's taking you so long?

quote:Originally posted by Grammar_Whore:

Hey zok remember a long long time ago I was on #totse and I suggested that you rar'd up the text files and torrent it? What's taking you so long?

Do you mean you want to make the text files into downloadable files instead of just reading them off the site? That's stupid.

This should NOT be done. EVER.

I hate the totse layout and the logo. We should change all of this.

quote:Originally posted by PyroHydroSmok:

more intelligent members would solve all our problems.



quote:Originally posted by umop 3pisdn:

As in, attract more intelligent members or ban enough stupid ones so the balance shifts to the smart ones' favor?

<MREND>Just quoted to expand PyroHydroSmoks' statement<MREND>



Has anyone noticed that in the "Real" world this would also be nice?

As more and more of the general population gets aquainted with this "New Fangled Techie Stuff" (The Internet) The Internet will more and more resemble your real life stupid to intelligent ratio. As time progresses and the whole of the General Population of the planet is "Online" you can expect to see more and more stupidity, just like you do in real life now.

This is an opprotunity to up the level of Humanities Intelligence, rather than just ban, delete, flame, any other negative action, or even just create "Invite Only" Forums to get away from the "Idiots"; it would be a wise course of action to gently nudge them in the "Right" direction of learning.

In "Real" life it can be fun to poke fun, or just say something stupid every now and then for your own enjoyment, but do it enough and pretty soon your an outcast. The Internet equivilant would be "Banned".

This is one of the foremost "Free Speech" Boards out here in netland, you can say just about anything you damn well please here, but just as in "Real" life you can't scream "FIRE" in a crowded cinima and not get in trouble for it, there needs to be a limit in here also. But that limit does not include shutting the stupid people out, stupid people have thier piece to say and they can damn well say it if they want to. In "Real" life you do have a choice of whether or not to listen to it, you can just walk away, hang up the phone, turn off the TV etc.

It would be nice to have that option here also in the form of an "Ignore" button.

May be a bit much to ask, but it would cut down on alot of BS, such as just imagine how nice it would have been for the Manhuuey (however it was spelled) spam?! People could spam thier little hearts out and never be a bother to anyone, 'cept maybe the bandwidth sprite http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

whats B&M

The temporary ban could sort out some of the crap, then you have the problem with someone just simply creating a new account. What if you made joining as a new user more inconvenient eg your system is setup to approve a new user by email in say 5 days instead of the current setup where you get an email with your password a few minutes after applying for an account, that would get rid of alot of users just creating accounts for the sake of being banned for a day.... it shouldn't deter anyone who is truly interested in joining totse

Ive got an idea. How about you guys set up an IQ test and a Proper Posting Quiz when a person is registering. That way, if they dont pass they cant get on, thus elminating idiots and spammers. The quiz's wouldnt have to be that long, just very precise and inquisitive in order to weed out the retards. This might solve another problem of ours as well. If someone passes, but still wants to spam, then we will see that its not that they dont know HOW to post they just choose to post incorrectly. We will see that they are not stupid, just lazy. Thus labeling them a spamming loser and in need of a short term to long term ban.

quote:How about you guys set up an IQ test and a Proper Posting Quiz

IQ tests are simply a test of the test, not of the person. Would take too long to set up and run properly, and undoubtly people would find a way to cheat.

Simple ways: Ignore idiot posters - don't reply to what they have posted if it is utter shit; as your mothers probably told you, if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Just ignore the eejits, and they'll start getting bored that no-one is replying to their stupid threads and hopefully will eventually bugger off. All it takes is a bit of self control - like over in bltc; many a question gets asked that has already been asked 14 times in the previous week, but simply answering politely, directing them to specific places where they can find more infomation themselves etc. makes not only the place a nicer forum to be at, but hopefully prevents random flamefests popping up, as well as altering said poster of aforementioned common question to other places of information where they can easily and quickly find their answer.

Ok I've been reading Totse for over a year now but I've only just joined and wanted something cleared up. What is spurious acually for? I assumed it was just for idiots to spam me for being a n00b when i got round to joining.

Also, do any messages in totse ever get deleted? Couldn't mods just delete the spam as soon as it is made? Sorry if that sounds stupid or anything.

Seeing how spurious is going to shit these days, I've come up with a small idea:

Let every moderator have power in spurious.

I know the code only allows 4 per forum, but I'm sure it doesn't take that much of an effort to change that. There are moderators that visit and post in spurious all the time (LostCause, ILP, Dark_Magneto from time to time). Wouldn't it be a better place if they had power there? It wouldn't be their full-time moderating job, just a small sub-job. I don't think this would result in wars amongst mods about closing threads, because they're smart enough to know what posts to lock/move/delete. As long as they're fair (which they are) it would only benefit spurious.

I actually like some of the stupid forums on here. They make me laugh when i'm blazed.

They're so stupid it's funny, and the replies...Wow, if you think the post is stupid then simply dont reply. They might get the hint that it was a stupid question since they're gonna have zero replies all the time.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but wouldn’t it solve most spam problems if an extra user level was added like a guest or noob with restricted access with a max number of posts per a length of time or blocked from using anything but the basics. Then if a mod or admin thought the deserved it or a year passed since they registered they were promoted to regular. I realize it would be a lot of work if not impossible to do but as fare as I see it anyone who gets band can just register again under a different name and start again with the same level of access it isn't very effective.

just my 2 cents feel free to ignore or flame.

Just face it, Zok: you're a fucking loser.

quote:Originally posted by Silent Frog:

Ok I've been reading Totse for over a year now but I've only just joined and wanted something cleared up. What is spurious acually for? I assumed it was just for idiots to spam me for being a n00b when i got round to joining.

Also, do any messages in totse ever get deleted? Couldn't mods just delete the spam as soon as it is made? Sorry if that sounds stupid or anything.



Exactly.

quote:Originally posted by Jackinmyhat:

Just face it, Zok: you're a fucking loser.

When yer right, yer right.

I like the idea of giving like 3 warning bans and then banning a person for good. The issue is when they just make a new name so maybe you could just block people using the same email as a banned person from registering on totse.

I used to come onto totse on a daily basis, but in the past few months it has gone downhill at an exponential rate. This is the first time I've been on in a LONG time, and though I'm glad that your finally acknowledging the huge disease that has infected the totse community, I fear it is not enough.

This is was a perfectly good thread and had relatively meaningful posts, and it would have stayed that way a couple of months ago. But alas, totse's mods and admins are too nice and have allowed people to do stupid shit that completely lowers the intelligence of a thread or removes any point that the thread had. We need to allow the mods to ban people for posting stupid shit such as:

quote:Originally posted by cronic5:

That ass hole Haywood Jablomi (https://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum18/HTML/001773.html) is pissed at me cause I ratted him out to proboards for hosting porn. He has me on 'probation' on his board but Mizled banned me too.

How can I best get even? Something awesome?

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread and, in my opinion, this person should be banned for purposely trying to make the thread worse. Once a couple dozen noobs are banned the others will get the message and stop posting stupid stuff in threads where stupid shit does not belong. Thats my two cents.

**Edit: I just saw the date that this thread was created. I thought that there would be some major changes to Totse and that it would become my home again, but it turns out that it has had two months and nothing has changed. Totse still sucks ass. Zok, keep trying to revive Totse, I think it could come back. But for now, I'm going to a better place. Suck my balls.

-Ghost.



[This message has been edited by Pnevma (edited 03-04-2005).]

whatever

What if we put B&M Back up, and left Half Baked standing? Then you'd get two completly usless forums!

(And have severe punishment for spammers, aka unabomb their email)

quote:Originally posted by Pnevma:

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread and, in my opinion, this person should be banned for purposely trying to make the thread worse. Once a couple dozen noobs are banned the others will get the message and stop posting stupid stuff in threads where stupid shit does not belong. Thats my two cents.

At that time someone had gotten my password and posted that. I would NEVR spam totse. It is my favorite forum and my home. I have now changed my password to something which even I don't know.

Yeah I think that email is what everyone was thinking but hadn't yet.

I hope Totse could be what it used to be, moronsfree. You get flamed for giving your opinion, and yet you are almost forced to put up with their crap.

Damn straight. Totse has gone to shit lately. I generally don't post in spurious because of the fact that it's become trash. Even BLTC is starting to go down the drain, what with the random dxm threads, whose starters are well aware of the "Official DXM Thread" and even post that they know what they're doing is wrong and punishable by ban. And the SSRI bullshit really drags the place down.

I think the general summary of BLTC should state that one cannot get stoned or have any recreational effects from an antidepressant. Maybe it could include some links to erowid, shroomery, and rxlist? This could get rid of those arbitrary "ID THIS PILL" or "WILL THIS GET ME STONED?" threads.

[This message has been edited by sellout_10 (edited 03-09-2005).]

You.

Are.

A.

GOD.

quote:Originally posted by Mokothar:

In my case, all I have to do is put Backyard Ballistics directly under my totse hotkey, but I think ot can be quite frustrating for other members.



Ctrl+F. I agree though, it can be a little difficult to get used to at first.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. It seems as though the security certificate is needing to be updated?..

As I recall, it stated that it expired two days ago.. and was issued two days ago 2004... Just thought I'd mention that.

quote:Originally posted by Toasted:

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. It seems as though the security certificate is needing to be updated?..

As I recall, it stated that it expired two days ago.. and was issued two days ago 2004... Just thought I'd mention that.

I have had the same message. I think we should email Zok about it. But he is probably getting enough emails about it anyway...

I'm sure Zok is aware of it by now.... I was actually going to email someone.... not knowing who or where to send it to. I'm sure many have done this by now.

good idea Zok!

i cant be the only one who comes to totse for a slightly higher class of crap, and thats what spurious delivers

you fuckers thought you could ban me. No fuckshit, no. You should have learned i have piles of proxies, email adds and usernames.

You will NEVER get rid of me.

Bwahahahaahaaha!!

Can we have a Survivalists area for this forum? Its a popular topic for people intersted in the subjects covered on TOTSE.

We need a DIY archive.

people really should be stopped from posting in news of the temple :S

cool.

quote:Originally posted by Jackinmyhat:

Just face it, Zok: you're a fucking loser.

I like Batman. *Random comment like yours*

Anyway, if it wasn't for Zok you'd have no life and would still be cutting yourself, and Totse wouldn't be here, we'd all lose. But to do with the current topic, I think the idea presented by somebody which said to make all moderators be able to delete/move threads in Spurious was a good one, and also what acid burn said of the short term bannings. My 'two cents'.

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AHHHHH

I just realized, that this topic has been here since my 2nd day.

Well I was hoping for a wakeup from Zok long before this, I haven't been on this site in a long time... I guess I'll just leave for good as I think most of the people who spend their time bitching on this website should also do. There have been no changes that have effected the noob content so I guess it's time to give up.

I'll make one suggestion though, if you ever fix the site Zok, send an email to all members telling them that changes have been made and there will be measures set in place to control spamming. If this place ever returns to what it once was, I would like to come back here for more intelligent conversation, but as it stands I won't be coming back without notification.

Either way, Goodnight totse.

ZOK, JEFF, ANYONE PLEASE I BEG OF YOU!!!! FIX THESE FORUMS. START BANNING ANYONE THAT MAKES EVEN ONE RETARDED POST! now that i've let go of the shift key, i'd like to say, that as someone who's been here for a few years, that this place used to be 100 times better than it is now. spurious used to actually have real random conversations. not just retarded ass random conversations. i'm asking you, out of the bottom of this oblivion i call my heart, to restore the beauty to this sanctuary so that we can all frolic around in its pseudo-purity. please zok? anyone?

edit: don't anyone say "let's start with you" because this is no where near a retarded post. i'm talking about the majority of the threads in spurious.

[This message has been edited by eXo5 (edited 05-15-2005).]

I heard some rumors that zok is no longer admin. so whats the truth?

i heard some rumors that this place is a fucking noob factory, and it's been this way too fucking long. fix this shit, god damnit..

YOU fix it.

Freedom of speech means just that. If we ban every idiot, there'd be noone left here, and we'd betray the principles on which totse has operated for so long.

just ban the people that spam the forums

Hey, ZoK, you have my personal thanks for sharing the information with us. Good job.

quote:Originally posted by retards_ondrugs:

I think closing registration would solve all of totse's problems. That would stop all of those idiots from flooding SG.

i vote for that actually

Well, the guy who posted above me is going to be banned... OR ELSE!!!

LAWL

quote:Originally posted by Jackinmyhat:

Just face it, Zok: you're a fucking loser.



Applause http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

There should be a section on everything, even spam or crappy content. But i think it's more of an issue of threads going in the correct category. Can't say you're a open source information site if you censor based on content, and not if it might be in the wrong section.

I think the forums should have sub forums. If your smart you'll figure this out easy enough.

quote:Originally posted by retards_ondrugs:

I think closing registration would solve all of totse's problems. That would stop all of those idiots from flooding SG.

At least for the summer months.

Hi all,

Is it possible that we could get a security/legal forum on totse? Have a place for people to get legal info, discuss current case law, and what all?

Just a thought, but I think it would add value to the forums.

Humanities is for law.

33060 we need to prun users soon again or we will crash yet again .. we will have a flood of kewls very soon possible lower it from 90 to 60 days

asdf

quote:Originally posted by Geek:

I think the forums should have sub forums. If your smart you'll figure this out easy enough.



We use UBB and we can't have sub-forums. UBB is too old and a peice of crap. We can't even have more than four moderators per forum.

Oh, and sub-forums are gay and stupid. We have enough regualr forums as is.

Compare the following posts: In this forum:

quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:

....If we ban every idiot, there'd be noone left here...



In the forum "What totse is about. (http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum1/HTML/000041.html)":

quote:Originally posted by Wintermute: ...We have some very intelligent and very knowledgable people here....



By this contradiction, it's unclear what

Wintermute's thoughts on totse are.



[This message has been edited by consule veritatem (edited 06-27-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:

YOU fix it.

Freedom of speech means just that. If we ban every idiot, there'd be noone left here, and we'd betray the principles on which totse has operated for so long.

but there is no such thing as freedom of speach! you cant run into a a movie theater and yell fire and you cant run around detroit yelilng "nigger". One of the quotes that my school uses alot is "with freedom comes responcablity" people who abuse their freedom to post, posting fifteen topics on what rhymes with w/e, should lose that freedom because they havnt used it responbly...

quote:Originally posted by GunshySlycat1:

There should be a section on everything, even spam or crappy content.

There is. It's called "Half Baked".

Zok, i cannot express my gratitude... TOTSE is really going to hell these days, its good to know that someone can save our souls...

Current SG "Hot Topics":

I proclaim my undying respect for Snoopy!!

Fetus Found!

I am the biggest loser on totse.

The Starbucks lady is scientology's god.

Do you have a speacial ability?

So I hit a fire hydrant, what should I do about insurance?

letter to my pen0r

The Simpsons Did Not Do It Thread

Australia Totse Meetup.

Just a Friendly Reminder

...

What happened?

hey I was wondering if you very generous people might be interested in making a musical forum where you can ask musical questions as in instruments, scales, etcetera

I know there is a rock forum but i think it'd be nice, like we could talk about the different courses on the internet for teaching people ''how to play the guitar'' and the like (and we could review them and previde assistances)

just a thought

I noticed there have been many replies here discussing the stupidity of some members of Totse. eg: pointless threads, etc.

I posted this in SG, but got little response, and none from any Admin. (http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum3/HTML/209974.html)

If any Admin would take the time to read it, I would greatly appreciate your opinions.

Edit: URL

[This message has been edited by Switch72 (edited 07-04-2005).]

why the sudden change in expanding the thread length?

I dunno, but I really like it! Thank you whoever did that!

That was me.

Less pages to click, and it seems to make no difference in load time for most people.

^^Yeah well i keep getting 404 errors everytime i try to load the second or third pages.

im starting to hate the 300 seconds flood control thing. its realy starting to piss me off. put it back the way it was. or at least half of that.

also the fact that you cant post in spurious

quote:Originally posted by echoman64:

im starting to hate the 300 seconds flood control thing. its realy starting to piss me off. put it back the way it was. or at least half of that.

300 Seconds http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif)

Its on 64 for me.

Edit: Never mind now its 300 grrrrr!

[This message has been edited by Source (edited 07-08-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by delusional_reality:

hey I was wondering if you very generous people might be interested in making a musical forum where you can ask musical questions as in instruments, scales, etcetera

I know there is a rock forum but i think it'd be nice, like we could talk about the different courses on the internet for teaching people ''how to play the guitar'' and the like (and we could review them and previde assistances)

just a thought

That would be a good ideah, i would use it. I hope the mods will have think about it.

I really like the idea of the "3 warning bans" for about 12-24 hours and then after that a full out ban held out with permission from an administrator. I think that would help but like you guys said some mods who get mad easily might abuse the privelege *cough* Snoopy *cough*.

*Hides in corner from Snoopy*

haha funny news

the pages get too long

flood control is 63 sec. now

zok i thought u were in jail?

quote:Originally posted by cronic5:

It doesn't make much of a difference to me about the order because Spurious is my homepage and that is the only forum I go into. At first I didn't liek Green Planet being at top but now that Bongman says that it is getting more traffic than ever than leave it.

I still wish we had some better moderators of Spurious. Red Raven is trying his hardest but it doesn't seem to be enough. Times like these I wish that more_cake was back in Spurious. I don't know where she has been lately.



ZoK - may i suggest that all mods share responsibilities in problem forums? like since this is a crisis in spurious, could we possibly have all mods and possibly an admin monitoring spurious for a while - increased montoring could help us sort out users... hell so much of the responsible totse populatoin has actually sold their usernames because they are leaving...

if you read the "whose hot" post a while ago, 1 out of 3 hot young women has left this site... funny but i kind of enjoyed those conversations with them...

anyways consider upping moderator responsiblity for spurious... if anything i'd be glad to be a moderator for spurious and ONLY spurious... the caretaker if you will???

quote:Originally posted by akdov:

They are around. It is just a matter of differentiating between the good ones and the majority people. Most of the forums, if not all, outside of sg and b&m seems to have a fair share of clever people.

oh lord, thank you, I thought it would never be brought to light.

SmartTart

Suggestion for new totse logo. (http://tinyurl.com/a3yhj)

[This message has been edited by Axis of Weasels (edited 08-12-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by Wintermute:

That was me.

Less pages to click, and it seems to make no difference in load time for most people.



That wouldn't be too surprising, as most people today have computers with fast CPU's and lots of RAM. Those with somewhat older and weaker computers though will not be so glad.

But anyhow. You can't stop progress, can you ?

I have no opinion, like it matters anyway, so yeah thats it.

quote:Originally posted by robbinthehood:

I know you said the name was temporary, but I think you should just call Half Baked "the Trashcan", or "the Sewer" or something along those lines.

I have always thought something like "The Playpen" or The Sandbox" would be appropriate.

What about "The Dump"

Its where all the posts that dont fit into any other forum, hence the garbage, and we're dumping it in there.

Its a play on words.

Get it?

Alright Im done now

you could just put a provisinal period where if they posted crap they get a 2-3 day ban, next 4-6 day ban, next forever and after they ha ve proved themselves they get 3 strikes and there out

all you would need to do is set it up in the faq,the registration rules and get more mods



also i agree to the short term ban thing after the provisional period is over not just like tallying it like its nothing

quote:Originally posted by Broken Nine:

good job zok. glad to see totse getting back on the right track.

quote:Originally posted by ultramar100:

Software doesnt allow that. The most it allows is 4(I think).



And something lasting months at a time is not brief.

I think they need to be punished for their actions.

Rather than anything exclusionary, invite based, elitist or draconian, as I see it, the very best way to improve the forums is give the moderators the ability to ban for anywhere between 6 and 48 hours (24 is a nice round number), and some kind of tracking system for the number of bans received and from which moderator. If the powers that be see fit, they can set a ban limit or progressively lengthen the bans. To prevent cirumvention of this, newly registered users will be given instructions that they should just read for a day to get a general feel for the site, and they will have posting privledges enabled in x hours (I suggest either 12 or 24). This prevents simple multiple registration trash, and provides some sanctions against misbehavior.

Moderators are not infallible any more than the pope is, but I feel that the degree to which they are being empowered will not be too corruptive, especially when oversight exists and when the chosen few are selected based on trustworthiness. There will always be moderators "abusing" whatever powers they have, but I do not forsee this being much more of a problem than it is now. I believe neither that this is a perfect solution, nor that any such thing exists. I do, however, forsee it being relatively easy to implement, effective at doing what it's supposed to (increase signal to noise ratio), and be as impartial as possible. If nothing else, (if you haven't already) make a hidden forum where moderators can mention spamming/flooding.

Thanks for reading.

I find zok to be a nuisance and should be shot.

IN B4 LOCK

Resurrected! :eek:

-Angus

"where they can put their game threads, spam (not floods), and incomplete thoughts"


Actually, games would be Games People Play, and incomlete ideas is Half Baked.