View Full Version : Jeff, PLEASE help out me and Zok
acidmelt
2006-06-22, 13:25
We have both emailed you before on the issue of registrations. You NEED to give us back the power to turn them on and off at our own will. We will not keep them closed forever but sometimes its the ONLY way to get rid of spammers. We have been getting NAILED lately with spammers and without us having the ability to flip the switch it makes it immpossible to get rid of them. We are admins and should be able to make these decisions. Im not trying to jump on your ass or anything here Jeff, BUT this is something that me and Zok NEED. We HAVE to have it considering me and Zok are the ONLY ONES that EVER take care of the spammers/spam threads. We promise we wont leave regs off all the time, but we need to be able to do it sometimes. As we are admins I feel that we should have that right anyways, but I know you must feel different considering you took that option away from us. Could you PLEASE give us admins the rights back to the reg switch?
Sorry for having to post this here but you never reply to anything I ever email you. Zok says the same.
Come on Jeff, for the good of totse.
Edit: COME ON JEFF!!!
Your own site is going to hell.
[This message has been edited by cronic5 (edited 06-22-2006).]
Yea, they need to close sometimes...like during the summertime when all the kids are home, and during spam attacks like the one that just happend with all the HB bullshit.
Or we could use a probation period for noobs when the register.
[This message has been edited by spazz (edited 06-22-2006).]
TheAlmightyVineMan
2006-06-22, 13:37
Agreed.
faceache
2006-06-22, 13:49
quote:Originally posted by cronic5:
Come on Jeff, for the good of totse.
Edit: COME ON JEFF!!!
Your own site is going to hell.
DarkStormRising
2006-06-22, 13:52
Close Registration, Jeff, Stop the mass flow of morons and other scum of the Earth.
Infernal
2006-06-22, 13:56
Disagree. Find alternatives for sign-ups on TOTSE. Make it harder for flooders to sign-up new accounts.
- Give the new members a seperate forum to post. When enough posts have been accumulated, allow them on the main board.
- Have the new members join the IRC chat. If they come, then allow them to post on the boards.
- Seperate emails for seperate accounts
- Character restrictions on usernames
- Flood control to restrict posts proportional to date joined/number of posts
Trousersnake
2006-06-22, 14:05
I'm interested to see what Jeff has to say about this.
acidmelt
2006-06-22, 14:06
quote:Originally posted by Infernal:
Disagree. Find alternatives for sign-ups on TOTSE. Make it harder for flooders to sign-up new accounts.
- Give the new members a seperate forum to post. When enough posts have been accumulated, allow them on the main board.
- Have the new members join the IRC chat. If they come, then allow them to post on the boards.
- Seperate emails for seperate accounts
- Character restrictions on usernames
- Flood control to restrict posts proportional to date joined/number of posts
ok, fair enough opinion.... let me state a few things though....
1. the seperate forum for new members isnt an option on the UBB board that we have.
2. because they come to the irc chat and act civil doesnt mean they wont go straight to the board and spam away.
3. seperate emails for seperate accounts is all ready in effect and has been for a long time. it takes about 10 seconds to sign up for a new email address for another account. so that wont help either.
4. flood control to restrict posts doesnt work at all either considering if they have more than one account and/or they are using multiple proxies.
Im not talking about closing registrations for good here people, we just need the option to do it on a temp basis for when we are getting spammed all to hell (like the past month for example).
I've dealt with 3 spam attacks in the last 4 days in SG.. coping with them until a admin came on, so they could ban them. But with the amount of poxies they were using the accounts continued to be made over n over until the spammer got bored.
I enjoy modding SG, and my 2 other forums, but I agree that the admins need a little bit more power then they already have, considering there's only 2 of them as well.
douches are a dime a dozen
^ Yeah you tell that bitch conyln.
But seriously, close the fucking registrations. Your boards are litterally getting spammed 3 times a week.
kenshin_kid
2006-06-22, 14:56
Yes, yes I AGREE with tr1p. I also agree with acidmelt, when I came here which wasn't that long ago it was all good, april and may kinda was ok but june crashed.
While I do agree with closing registrations, why not (for a limited time) make every new user email an admin stating that they would like to become a member?
Once the admin determines that the new user does not sound like a complete idiot, the admin can activate the new user's account.
What do you guys think of this idea?
Thanks,
Clay
angustheotherwhitemeat
2006-06-22, 15:41
INB4JEF
What about lifejunkie? Is he still an admin?
TheAlmightyVineMan
2006-06-22, 16:03
quote:Originally posted by 42:
While I do agree with closing registrations, why not (for a limited time) make every new user email an admin stating that they would like to become a member?
Once the admin determines that the new user does not sound like a complete idiot, the admin can activate the new user's account.
In theory its fine and dandy, but as you've seen Jeff doesnt check his mail very often and even if he checked it every day, thats still alot of people he has to approve and then allow in manually. Its not efficient enough to be a plausible solution.
HandOfZek
2006-06-22, 16:06
This sudden influx of homosexuals is fagging up the place.
quote:Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
In theory its fine and dandy, but as you've seen Jeff doesnt check his mail very often and even if he checked it every day, thats still alot of people he has to approve and then allow in manually. Its not efficient enough to be a plausible solution.
There are more admins than Jeff. They could set up a specific email such as 'register@totse.com' and each admin would have to read a certain amount each day.
This seems to be a good alternative to closing down the registrations, IMO. Although, if this wouldn't work, I support acidmelt!
- 42
Aft3r ImaGe
2006-06-22, 16:16
Alot of proposals here to limit the number of kidiots are good ideas but remember this is a free speech website, and by judging intellegence by grammer and spelling you limit the scope of people and there is always the possibility of blocking someone who would otherwise contribute to totse.
Also if people had to email an admin to register whats to stop them from spamming the admin.
Maybe if we closed registration near when school is out it would limit the number of people who are just here because they think they are cool because they just started going through puberty.
Just a suggestion.
quote:Originally posted by 42:
While I do agree with closing registrations, why not (for a limited time) make every new user email an admin stating that they would like to become a member?
Once the admin determines that the new user does not sound like a complete idiot, the admin can activate the new user's account.
What do you guys think of this idea?
Thanks,
Clay
There is 75+ new registrations a day, I don't think the admins want to check hundreds of e-mails a week to determine if a user will be good enough for Totse, so I don't think that's a good idea.
I think moderators should have the power to ban people, even if it is a temporary ban it will stop spam attacks quicker than usual.
angustheotherwhitemeat
2006-06-22, 16:50
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that the current UBB doesn't support this, but it would be pretty cool if mods/admins could declare a 'state of emergency' type thing on a certain forum. During this time, only members who have been members for longer than a week will be able to post.
That way, if a spammer's first account gets banned, he can't just use a proxy and register a new account and continue spamming.
If only the UBB supported it, all our problems would be solved.
Oh yeah, and I think that mods should be able to ban people. Except meta, I think his daughter should be raped by random things.
TheAlmightyVineMan
2006-06-22, 17:02
I like the panic button idea angustheotherwhitemeat suggested, but I dont know of any forum software that does this.
quote:Originally posted by phalen:
If one of the admins doens't do something different (write a proxy-block like one of the mods suggested or just fucking close registrations until they get bored) then it's just going to keep happening, day in, day out.
Yeah Jeff doesn't want registrations closed because he feels totse should be open to everyone. But at the moment, everyone that it is open to, doesn't want to be here. People will stop coming and trying to deal with this shit and it will die eventually.
I know i'm not the only one to say it, and it won't change shit. But i'm saying it anyway.
A ban list is just a VERY temporary short-lived solution, a less-than-a-day fix.
Said it before, will say it again.
Agreed with AM.
Something needs to be done.
They've been happening ALOT recently, and usually are solved within an hour and happen the next day. But last night was just a joke. I along with most people it seems gave up and clicked the 'X' at the top of the screen.
How about banning a few email domains. I know that happened with AOL before. Ban the disposable ones. Ban mailinator, and all these (http://email.about.com/cs/dispaddrrevs/tp/disposable.htm). That ought to make it a little bit harder to register multiple accounts. Just don't close registration.
quote:Originally posted by Limecat:
How about banning a few email domains. I know that happened with AOL before. Ban the disposable ones. Ban mailinator, and all these (http://email.about.com/cs/dispaddrrevs/tp/disposable.htm). That ought to make it a little bit harder to register multiple accounts. Just don't close registration.
Good idea.
But, with the amount of invites Gmail gives everyone with an account, i'm guessing they use that, and if not, they will.
And we can't exactly ban Gmail as i'm sure it's what a good 80% of totse use. Including myself.
quote:Originally posted by phalen:
Good idea.
But, with the amount of invites Gmail gives everyone with an account, i'm guessing they use that, and if not, they will.
And we can't exactly ban Gmail as i'm sure it's what a good 80% of totse use. Including myself.
But setting up five gmail accounts is a pain in the ass, where as five mailinator addresses takes five seconds. Just my two cents.
whocares123
2006-06-22, 17:58
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
Sorry for having to post this here but you never reply to anything I ever email you. Zok says the same.
Now that's interesting.
I think registration should generally be kept open, but you guys should have the power to turn it off if you feel it's necessary. But only for short periods of time. This "close registration for the summer" thing inhibits growth. Yeah, idiots do sign up, maybe moreso in the summer, but we still get good members that can contribute something.
evil0verl0rd
2006-06-22, 18:05
I support this.
Even though I am not exactly a regular, it is a pain to see Meta's 14 year old daughter be the only thread for the first two pages in SG.
VolatileShiftInPersona
2006-06-22, 19:23
It's probably rotteneggs at it again...
I know I look like an ass for saying this, but I really don't think the power to turn off regs should be given to the other admins, Jeff.
They always leave them closed indefinitely, until one day you come back to do maitenance or something, and turn them back on.
After the bullshit with Wintermute, you shouldn't trust the admins with shit like that.
Jeff, We love you, but it's time to let these guys do their job. There's a reason they're administrators.
OH AND GET MADFAST OUT OF SG. HE'S AS BAD AS THE SPAMMERS, HE LOCKED EVERY SINGLE THREAD BECUASE HE IS IN PMS.
quote:Originally posted by RedWasp:
Jeff, We love you, but it's time to let these guys do their job. There's a reason they're administrators.
They're administrators because Jeff made them administrators.
I'm going to say this here, so that the truth can be heard and not locked.
How the FUCK did madfast become a mod, and especially get put into SG.
SG is having a hard enough time with the spammers, and now he has gone on some insane power trip. He's acting like a spammer with mod powers.
quote:Originally posted by madfast:
too many posts locked
quote:Originally posted by madfast:
its funny when a mods thread gets locked http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
quote:Originally posted by madfast:
shut up if theres to many post less people will see my posts
quote:Originally posted by madfast:
do I care? I want everyone to know when its spamed it was cause of ME just so everyone know i wont lock this http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
quote:Originally posted by madfast:
too much Tr1p locked
To stay on topic, as we all know, SG is in the shitter with spammers right now.
And fuck-wads like this, ain't gonna get it out.
War_Lord
2006-06-22, 21:17
I agree!
lobotomy
2006-06-22, 21:18
*agrees with this thread*
jeff never answers emails from anyone.
rabbhimself
2006-06-22, 21:32
I agree that registration should be closed for a short while, and that madfast needs a quick replacing.
Words can not describe just how much of an ass he is.
- Rabb
Animal Forum, or atleast rename Green Planet to Animal Forum, that is all I have to say.
i think the owner of this site. JEFF should actually post on his own site at least once a day.
http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
Der Commissar
2006-06-22, 21:47
And while you're at it, Jeff, de-mod that lunatic Madfast, he has some vendetta against HB- he even closed the sick_boy thread for christs sake!
He doesn't even give a reason for his actions, either.
RoyPretzelBoy
2006-06-22, 22:01
quote:Originally posted by Der Commissar:
And while you're at it, Jeff, de-mod that lunatic Madfast, he has some vendetta against HB- he even closed the sick_boy thread for christs sake!
He doesn't even give a reason for his actions, either.
madfast has been demodded, but he did not do all that shit. someone hacked his account.
rabbhimself
2006-06-22, 22:09
quote:Originally posted by RoyPretzelBoy:
madfast has been demodded, but he did not do all that shit. someone hacked his account.
...supposedly.
He could have tried to cover his tracks with that.
- Rabb
kenshin_kid
2006-06-22, 22:31
he was t3h bad mod. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
lisdexic
2006-06-22, 22:35
quote:Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
Agreed.
I concur.
hankletank
2006-06-22, 23:06
In the past two to three hours I've seen about 20 new people on totse. All of whom were spamming the shit out of SG. Plz fix.
insaneike_420
2006-06-22, 23:16
I'm with AM here...
later
Half Baked
2006-06-22, 23:20
Just put meta back in there. Why would you rotate the only one who had control of that forum to begin with?
Do it, do it now! Or I will be forced to do what is necessary!
GAY BUTT SECKS IN FRONT OF EVERY1
You wouldn't want that would you!?
That's what I thought.
-Poop
Edit: PAGE 2 NUCCAS!
[This message has been edited by Half Baked (edited 06-22-2006).]
Der Commissar
2006-06-22, 23:27
quote:Originally posted by hankletank:
In the past two to three hours I've seen about 20 new people on totse. All of whom were spamming the shit out of SG. Plz fix.
It's just the same old dozen or so trolls making new accounts, I think.
uberdude
2006-06-22, 23:40
this needs to be fixed. its utter bullshit. can you guys make it so that people cant acess this site through a prox? b/c that would probably shut down at least some of the spammers...
Homesniper
2006-06-22, 23:52
I find that quite a few proxies are banned anyway. I used to have one that was, I couldnt figure out why I couldnt post.
I feel that this shit happens. I hate it, but can we really trust this option to people? I wasn't here last time to see it closed for ages, or even to see wintermute go crazy(unless it was that time in 2003 when she was deleting lots of accounts??)
We need a new system of order. Not more power added on, but a whole new system.
RevolutionNov7th
2006-06-23, 00:09
I thought Jeff was busy as fuck these days. This is the last thing he needs. Tough call whichever way you look at it.
This is crazy.
Rethink the system. Don't stick with old methods. Beat new paths.
{DA}
kenshin_kid
2006-06-23, 00:19
This is fucking bullshit, I have seen spam by so man people in the last week. It's starting to piss me off, there's no nice way too say it. It's ruining the good of totseans who come here for intellegent discussion.
imperfectcircle
2006-06-23, 00:32
quote:Originally posted by RevolutionNov7th:
I thought Jeff was busy as fuck these days. This is the last thing he needs.
It must take what... 10 minutes for him to change it? Tops?
How much time and effort is it causing the mods and admins who are cleaning up the spamfests?
Seriously, this trolling has gotten vastly out of hand ( as I type this SG is getting spammed again )
whatsinanameanyway
2006-06-23, 00:36
i support closing registration.
Muramune
2006-06-23, 00:38
The fucking apocalypse is coming.
There is no salvation.
If you wish to survive the chaos, you must embrace it.
On a side note, I disagree with closing registration. I'm in favor of more agressive moderation. Ban IPs like a motherfucker.
MomentaryLapseOfReason
2006-06-23, 00:40
quote:Originally posted by Muramune:
The fucking apocalypse is coming.
There is no salvation.
If you wish to survive the chaos, you must embrace it.
On a side note, I disagree with closing registration. I'm in favor of more agressive moderation. Ban IPs like a motherfucker.
That won't help when they can just use a proxy and make another account. They can do that all day long. It won't end.
This is one of the reasons I probably will never mod SG again.
illuminatikiller
2006-06-23, 00:42
I think I'll just avoid SG for a while.
tatari gami
2006-06-23, 00:48
quote:Originally posted by kenshin_kid:
This is fucking bullshit, I have seen spam by so man people in the last week. It's starting to piss me off, there's no nice way too say it. It's ruining the good of totseans who come here for intellegent* discussion.
Because we all know that SG is where people go for intelligent discussion. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)
Muramune
2006-06-23, 00:50
Embrace it motherfuckers. Embrace it, or you will go insane.
This is probably a dumb question, but isn't there a way to block people from accessing through a proxy? I swear I read that somewhere.
kenshin_kid
2006-06-23, 01:06
Ok, look you guys need to get computer crazy on there ass. Build a web based application that roots them to a totse look alike, but it will send you all of there info. Then hack the fucking computer with there IP adress using routers. It would be really hard, but if you wana shut them down...you gotta go to the source.
I fully support closing registration.
This is why I post in HB. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
squeegee
2006-06-23, 01:11
quote:Originally posted by Muramune:
Embrace it motherfuckers. Embrace it, or you will go insane.
This is probably a dumb question, but isn't there a way to block people from accessing through a proxy? I swear I read that somewhere.
I don't remember the web site, but I went to one that read your ip address. I went through five proxys and it still read my real one. Maybe I'll find it.
Nidias_91
2006-06-23, 01:32
quote:Originally posted by squeegee:
I don't remember the web site, but I went to one that read your ip address. I went through five proxys and it still read my real one. Maybe I'll find it.
http://www.showmyip.com/
perhaps that, thats the only one i could think of.
I completely agree about closing registration, if only temporarily. Just long enough to IP ban and ban accounts that are causing problems.
angustheotherwhitemeat
2006-06-23, 01:59
I believe there's a simple Javascript code that displays your IP adress in a popup window when you open a page that contains it.
THEatomicpunk
2006-06-23, 02:03
Note to Jeff:
Meow
Meow
Meow
Meow
Meow
Meow
Meow
Meow
PUSSY!
C'mon Jeff, MAN UP! This is a difficult time on Totse (mostly SG). Show us that you care as much for us as we do you!
DEADBEATDAD
2006-06-23, 02:09
quote:Originally posted by kenshin_kid:
Ok, look you guys need to get computer crazy on there ass. Build a web based application that roots them to a totse look alike, but it will send you all of there info. Then hack the fucking computer with there IP adress using routers. It would be really hard, but if you wana shut them down...you gotta go to the source.
I fully support closing registration.
You cant do that dumbass. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)
Its fucking illegal and you can go to jail for it.
quote:Originally posted by MomentaryLapseOfReason:
This is one of the reasons I probably will never mod SG again.
BUT YOU ARE ONE OF MY FAVS !!1
dont worry, im sure u will be back by popular demand http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
Lundmark
2006-06-23, 02:16
Make your own fucking bbs, then you can keep registration closed as long as you god damn want.
spyke-kingofhearts
2006-06-23, 02:36
Jeff... give them the power they need. Your own site is going to hell after all. And honestly.. there are only 2 admins. Its not like registration and the site is gonna get all fucked up. And if not that then atleast make it harder for people to create an account.
postdiluvium
2006-06-23, 03:14
quote:Originally posted by PGF:
jeff never answers emails from anyone.
you kidding? he just replied back to my email.
here's my idea:
allow the administrators to control a list that is then used to filter out topics that spammers use (ie ones containing "meta" & "daughter" & "rape"). although spammers could easily come up with a new topic, it's just as easy to add that topic to the filter list. also this will function better than just banning as creating a new account or using a proxy won't help.
the one problem is that words can be spelled incorrectly on purpose to avoid the filters, but I'm sure with some coding you get around that problem (ie having the filter examine a spell-checked version of the topic, then if it is approved post the topic as it was originally spelled).
illuminatikiller
2006-06-23, 04:03
quote:Originally posted by xarf:
here's my idea:
allow the administrators to control a list that is then used to filter out topics that spammers use (ie ones containing "meta" & "daughter" & "rape"). although spammers could easily come up with a new topic, it's just as easy to add that topic to the filter list. also this will function better than just banning as creating a new account or using a proxy won't help.
the one problem is that words can be spelled incorrectly on purpose to avoid the filters, but I'm sure with some coding you get around that problem (ie having the filter examine a spell-checked version of the topic, then if it is approved post the topic as it was originally spelled).
What if I needed to ask "Meta, someone tried to rape my daugter, can you help?" Then I'd be out of luck.
Captain Kaboom
2006-06-23, 05:42
Bring back 300 second flood-control
Ban people for the least amount of disobedience, locking threads works only so well
Give us a way to contact you higher-ups in the event we become entangled in a spammicane, ban any users that spam your inbox
More mods in every forum, with well-defined rules of engagement, forum activity being considered
(In support of administration's request)
Close registrations until spam attacks have been neutralized, the spammers banned, and the horseshit cleaned
Ban anyone that "feeds the troll", not forever unless discretion says otherwise
quote:Originally posted by MomentaryLapseOfReason:
That won't help when they can just use a proxy and make another account. They can do that all day long. It won't end.
This is one of the reasons I probably will never mod SG again.
Can you ban the I.P of proxies?
Just a thought, probably unfeasable though.
KooperParakarry
2006-06-23, 06:20
SG is currently getting spammed. I think it is time...
quote:Originally posted by spyke-kingofhearts:
Jeff... give them the power they need. Your own site is going to hell after all. And honestly.. there are only 2 admins. Its not like registration and the site is gonna get all fucked up. And if not that then atleast make it harder for people to create an account.
This site is not "going to hell". Spurious might be having a rough time right now, but the other forums are doing just fine, with just as much spam as usual. Maybe you should take this opportunity to check out the other forums and maybe participate in some intelligent discussion.
lisdexic
2006-06-23, 06:52
MEDIC!
WE NEED A DAM MEDIC HERE OR WE ARE GOING TO LOSE HIM! (http://tinyurl.com/cm8dd)
Juke_box_hero
2006-06-23, 07:07
You obviously trust in Acidmelts and Zoks abilites to hold down the fort. I dont see why you wouldnt trust them with this too.
Theres nothing to be gained by not letting them open/close registration when they need to.
voodoonirvana
2006-06-23, 07:21
Yeah this shit sucks, all the little 14 year olds are congregating here.
Cloaked Dagger
2006-06-23, 07:42
Just want to throw my hat in on the side of Acid Melt here.
Muramune
2006-06-23, 07:43
quote:Originally posted by Lucky7:
Can you ban the I.P of proxies?
Just a thought, probably unfeasable though.
Yeah, great idea, except there are hundreds of random proxies being made all the time.
How about implementing a Captcha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha) on the posting page?
AreteVeteran
2006-06-23, 08:18
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
ok, fair enough opinion.... let me state a few things though....
1. the seperate forum for new members isnt an option on the UBB board that we have.
2. because they come to the irc chat and act civil doesnt mean they wont go straight to the board and spam away.
3. seperate emails for seperate accounts is all ready in effect and has been for a long time. it takes about 10 seconds to sign up for a new email address for another account. so that wont help either.
4. flood control to restrict posts doesnt work at all either considering if they have more than one account and/or they are using multiple proxies.
Im not talking about closing registrations for good here people, we just need the option to do it on a temp basis for when we are getting spammed all to hell (like the past month for example).
why not give them anime or go team forum?
/AV/
XiPPiLLi
2006-06-23, 08:26
Jeff Hunter will not respond to emails. Dont you remember, the totse mail server is down. Its out, broken.
There is only one way to get a hold of Jeff now.
Its the last question under Contact Info on the FAQ.
Look for yourself.
http://www.totse.com/en/_faq/totse_faq.html#contact
Special. K
2006-06-23, 10:06
My full support for this motion that AM has proposed.
[This message has been edited by Special. K (edited 06-23-2006).]
I'm currently cleaning up the 4th spam attack that I've delt with in 4 days (Thats not including the ones I was offline for), and am waiting for an admin to come online to sort the rest out for me (I can't delete 4ish pages of shit all by myself, one by one).
Something needs to change round here http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
quote:Originally posted by XiPPiLLi:
Jeff Hunter will not respond to emails. Dont you remember, the totse mail server is down. Its out, broken.
There is only one way to get a hold of Jeff now.
Its the last question under Contact Info on the FAQ.
Look for yourself.
htt p://www.to tse.com/en /_faq/totse_faq.html#contact (http: //www.tots e.com/en/_ faq/totse_ faq.html#c ontact)
Are you sure? I thought that was fixed when totse came back up after winter, and registrations opened again. Wasn't there a thing about how we couldn't open registrations because the mail confirmations wouldn't go anywhere?
Jeff Hunter pass totse on to some people who actually give a fuck about it.
Could this not be solved by simply adding a lot more mods?
KooperParakarry
2006-06-23, 17:20
quote:Originally posted by skza:
Jeff Hunter pass totse on to some people who actually give a fuck about it.
I'd say paying to run and host this whole site constitutes as giving a fuck about it.
Fuzzball3000
2006-06-23, 17:35
I agree with acidmelt.
Some Old Drunk Guy
2006-06-23, 17:48
*moving to Bitch and Moan*
met_B_A_N_S
2006-06-23, 18:21
AM or Zok, has jeff seen this yet?
MandatorySuicide
2006-06-23, 19:03
quote:Originally posted by Q777:
Could this not be solved by simply adding a lot more mods?
You can only have 4 mods per forum, so even if that could solve it, it's not gonna happen.
Personally, I don't know why Jeff ever took away the admins' ability to close registration during spam attacks. Sure, it may have been left off too long a couple of times, but wouldn't it be easier to talk to the admins about this instead of taking away one of their only semi-effective defenses for major spam attacks? The spam in SG has just been getting worse, and will probably continue to get worse for as long as school is out and the idiots need someone to terrorize in place of their teachers. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif).
If you can trust Zok and AM to run your forums, you should be able to trust that they won't abuse the features that they need (And yes, if you stick around and look at SG, it will become obvious to you that they DO need it) to run them.
acidmelt
2006-06-23, 19:30
quote:Originally posted by met_B_A_N_S:
AM or Zok, has jeff seen this yet?
Not that I know of. I would HOPE that if he saw it he would have replied. Either in here or in my email. But I havent heard anything as of yet.
whocares123
2006-06-23, 20:50
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
Not that I know of. I would HOPE that if he saw it he would have replied. Either in here or in my email. But I havent heard anything as of yet.
This is fucking bullshit.
Cheers,
Lost
[This message has been edited by whocares123 (edited 06-24-2006).]
Da Black Ice
2006-06-24, 00:12
quote:Originally posted by AreteVeteran:
why not give them go team forum?
/AV/
No.
"Zok and I"*... http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)
Such grammar... I feel ashamed of you. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
EDiT: http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
[This message has been edited by Gus (edited 06-24-2006).]
Heck_Tate
2006-06-24, 05:06
the joke's on you guys. Jeff's been dead in his house for years and nobody has noticed
quote:Originally posted by Gus:
"Zok and I"*... http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)
Such grammar... I feel ashamed of you. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
EDiT: http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
No, "Zok and me" You wouldn't say "Help I out" but instead "help me out."
PackmanOnCrack
2006-06-24, 08:00
Leave registration open, all these trolls amuse me, and all their discoverys to screw up with the totse UBB surprise me even more.
Meh, cause its defitnly better then seeing Tr1p threads and girls posting pics that goes 10 pages.
AreteVeteran
2006-06-24, 08:21
I dont get how jeff has so many posts 10000, yet i never see him post....
/AV/
quote:Originally posted by MandatorySuicide:
but wouldn't it be easier to talk to the admins about this instead of taking away one of their only semi-effective defenses for major spam attacks? The spam in SG has just been getting worse, and will probably continue to get worse for as long as school is out and the idiots need someone to terrorize in place of their teachers. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif).
If you can trust Zok and AM to run your forums, you should be able to trust that they won't abuse the features that they need (And yes, if you stick around and look at SG, it will become obvious to you that they DO need it) to run them.
Couldn't agree more.
quote:Originally posted by AreteVeteran:
I dont get how jeff has so many posts 10000, yet i never see him post....
/AV/
Well, considering he's been here since the begining of Totse, and you only 2005, I'd say you missed a lot.
Xerophyte
2006-06-24, 11:59
Or you could increase flood control to three minutes whenever there is a spam attack. Then you can ban whoever is spamming quickly, without numerous thread deletions as well.
quote:Originally posted by Xerophyte:
Or you could increase flood control to three minutes whenever there is a spam attack. Then you can ban whoever is spamming quickly, without numerous thread deletions as well.
OR you could really do what Acid wants.
Xerophyte
2006-06-24, 12:58
quote:Originally posted by donwano:
OR you could really do what Acid wants.
There are also people who do not spam that join totse. It is unfair on them to close registration due to a minority of spammers.
[This message has been edited by Xerophyte (edited 06-24-2006).]
Honestly, I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing, The spammers. I mean no, its not nice. But I used to post in SG all the time. It just made me branch out, and read other forums, My god, Art and design, SnA.
I really don't care either way.
VegetaRobGT
2006-06-24, 14:13
I think you're missing the point- there are massive amounts of spammers constantly starting up crappy threads and the mods have to wait it out to get them out of here- so more threads come off and they get pissed for having their threads closed and come back with even shittier ones.
needmoney
2006-06-24, 14:35
Now everybody go and look at Spurious. Doesn't take 50 hits of weed to realise that that forum is getting spammed to fuck.
And this has all been dowe with multiple accounts.
Come on Jeff, stop fapping and log on.
[This message has been edited by needmoney (edited 06-24-2006).]
SG is getting spammed to hell.. again. Jeff, help us out man.
syrlinger
2006-06-24, 16:30
SG is... gone?
What happend with HB and SG?
Gorloche
2006-06-24, 16:35
And the brilliant solution was...
Get rid of the idiot dens!
If the spammers have nowhere to spam, no spamming will take place. Interesting idea. I like it. It's not like the fucks who did this kind of shit ever went to any other forum, either. Oh, a new thread...
ruckus101
2006-06-24, 16:50
Close the Regestrations... TOO MUCH SPAM!
Chris1875
2006-06-24, 16:52
Spam fritters own, especially when they're drowned in brown sauce...
May be this will motivate them into getting rid of this fucking ancient BBS software.
Star Wars Fan
2006-06-24, 17:10
quote:Originally posted by Captain Kaboom:
Bring back 300 second flood-control
Ban people for the least amount of disobedience, locking threads works only so well
Give us a way to contact you higher-ups in the event we become entangled in a spammicane, ban any users that spam your inbox
More mods in every forum, with well-defined rules of engagement, forum activity being considered
(In support of administration's request)
Close registrations until spam attacks have been neutralized, the spammers banned, and the horseshit cleaned
Ban anyone that "feeds the troll", not forever unless discretion says otherwise
Uh-huh. No, TOTSE will not be Nazified. More than half of TOTSE will end up in some sort of uprising if this stuff is passed. You know this, I know this,e veryone knows this. This will go against TOTSE's existence, we must protect ouf civil liberties.
Eh, screw it let the Spammers have Spurious Generalites
quote:
allow the administrators to control a list that is then used to filter out topics that spammers use (ie ones containing "meta" & "daughter" & "rape"). although spammers could easily come up with a new topic, it's just as easy to add that topic to the filter list. also this will function better than just banning as creating a new account or using a proxy won't help.
the one problem is that words can be spelled incorrectly on purpose to avoid the filters, but I'm sure with some coding you get around that problem (ie having the filter examine a spell-checked version of the topic, then if it is approved post the topic as it was originally spelled).
They tried this with Goatse. They then placed g0atse, etc. They'll find a awy around it.
I',m serious, but leave registration open and let them spal to their content in SG, better than the steps some want to place in.
Star Wars Fan
2006-06-24, 17:16
Also, more power to the other Admins, like registration powers (but still leave it alone) power spread out could be better for the people, but it could cause power plays and problems (TOTSE civil wars, like the fights between MLOR and Meta, only worse?).
quote:Originally posted by Gorloche:
And the brilliant solution was...
Get rid of the idiot dens!
If the spammers have nowhere to spam, no spamming will take place. Interesting idea. I like it. It's not like the fucks who did this kind of shit ever went to any other forum, either. Oh, a new thread...
They tried that with closing Half Baked down, it didn't work. The other forums got spammed badly.
09373472
2006-06-24, 17:23
Maybe you could make it so you have to wait ten days or so until your forum account is activated? This might deter some spammers, though some might just sign up for 20 accounts and wait ten days...
quote:Originally posted by ruckus101:
Close the Regestrations... TOO MUCH SPAM!
There was spam two months ago, and if we closed it then, then you wouldn't have been able to register.
Amoxicellin
2006-06-24, 17:58
I sometimes wonder if Jeff wants totse to die.
Runaway_Stapler
2006-06-24, 18:13
acidmelt and Zok:
Someone metioned this a while ago and it should kill a dececnt amount of the spammers/trolls: Make it so it takes a week to approve registration. That way, some of these spammers with a 5 minutes attentions span will give up and forget. This obviously wont prevent all of it, but it would definitely help. Another thing- maybe make it so you can delete old accounts, and make it impossible to register two accounts on the same IP at the same time. This way if someone wanted a new account, all they would have to do is delete the old one. Again, this wouldn't prevent all spam, but it's one step closer. Is there a way to make it so you can't post a topic with the same title withi n maybe 12 hours? Specify flood control to the characters?
Much of this probably isn't supported by the current ubb, but if any is, please consider it, it would definitely help. Thank you.
Doesn't ANYONE of the Mods, Admins, or even Regular Users know the phone number of Jeff Hunter?
Or know him IRL?
I think I can write a script so the mods can delete a bunch of threads really fast.
You would specify two forum ids and it would delete every thread between those 2 ids.
Anyone mods interested in this?
Vicky-lala
2006-06-24, 19:09
quote:Originally posted by Criso:
Doesn't ANYONE of the Mods, Admins, or even Regular Users know the phone number of Jeff Hunter?
Or know him IRL?
I think there was an "Admin List" but that probably got deleted after it was leaked to the public.
quote:Originally posted by AreteVeteran:
I dont get how jeff has so many posts 10000, yet i never see him post....
/AV/
A while back someone named Lokil was bragging about having a ton of posts (I think he had more than anyone else at the time) so Jeff decided to own his ass and increase his post count to 10,000.
DEADBEATDAD
2006-06-24, 19:24
Does Jeff Hunter live in California?
I may have found something
[This message has been edited by DEADBEATDAD (edited 06-24-2006).]
quote:Originally posted by Zok:
No, "Zok and me" You wouldn't say "Help I out" but instead "help me out."
alas, i think an even better grammatical construction would be
"jeff, help me and zok out"
deus-redux
2006-06-24, 20:04
He was just waiting for me to register my new account.
It's okay Jeff, you can close it now. http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
-deus-
ps: I SAID CLOSE IT! PLEASE!
Premium Overdrive
2006-06-24, 20:36
Acidmelt, can you unban my other username please? I think it's time.
Needmoney
deus-redux
2006-06-24, 20:51
quote:Originally posted by Premium Overdrive:
Acidmelt, can you unban my other username please? I think it's time.
Needmoney
So that would make you....circumventing a ban? http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
-deus-
niggersexual
2006-06-24, 20:54
quote:Originally posted by PGF:
alas, i think an even better grammatical construction would be
"jeff, help me and zok out"
In English, it's proper etiquette to put persons by ordinality in a descending manner. Third persons are listed before second persons who are listed before first persons.
quote:Originally posted by Premium Overdrive:
Acidmelt, can you unban my other username please? I think it's time.
Needmoney
lol pwned
quote:Originally posted by Xerophyte:
There are also people who do not spam that join totse. It is unfair on them to close registration due to a minority of spammers.
Hey, It's been done before. I infact tried to register in 2003 but found registration was closed, I just waited afew months until it was open.
And I think Moderator's should be given the power to ban, it would help a lot.
xoctopusx
2006-06-24, 21:56
To be honest Jeff has to quit messing around and UPDATE from this current version of UBB. It lacks a lot of features, some of them are bloat but many are quite useful such as the separate forums and all. A new members forum would work great. Any potential spammers and tr0lls would have a lot of hurdles to cross.
if anyone knows what city jeff lives in i may be able to get you a number.
R|z|R
Vilkacis
2006-06-24, 22:39
quote:Originally posted by Razor:
if anyone knows what city jeff lives in i may be able to get you a number.
R|z|R
I bet he would appreciate that.
xoctopusx
2006-06-24, 22:40
As I said before the whole forum needs to be updated. The security features would be better. I wondered why Jeff feels the need to use this version of INFOPOP?It's so damned old Infopop has changed their name to "groupee"! http://eve.groupee.com/
Can someone fill me in?
[This message has been edited by xoctopusx (edited 06-24-2006).]
whocares123
2006-06-24, 23:09
quote:Originally posted by Razor:
if anyone knows what city jeff lives in i may be able to get you a number.
R|z|R
You're assuming "Jeff Hunter" is his real name. Why?
Cheers,
Lost
I guess all you can do is laugh at times like these.
{DA}
Vilkacis
2006-06-24, 23:46
I don't understand why you're doing this? Does it make you feel big inside?
AreteVeteran
2006-06-25, 00:30
quote:Originally posted by cronic5:
A while back someone named Lokil was bragging about having a ton of posts (I think he had more than anyone else at the time) so Jeff decided to own his ass and increase his post count to 10,000.
so thats how its so high, yeah, someone flew too close to the sun, so jeff got jealuous and smote him
/AV/
AreteVeteran
2006-06-25, 00:32
STFU
GTFO
Admins.....
/AV/
woopsueypigs77
2006-06-25, 00:57
Wow. Just wow.
Spam Man Sam
2006-06-25, 00:58
DaSpammer is DanMan.
Mr. Tree
2006-06-25, 00:59
Where is justice?
Justice needs to be served.
acid_drop
2006-06-25, 01:13
Hey. I just went to the "contact" us thingy and sent in a message. But it gaveme this message:
"Based on a comprehensive computer analysis of your feedback message using advanced artificial intelligence techniques, we have determined that there is a 97% probability that the answer to your question is on the "Frequently Asked Questions About totse.com" page. You will be automatically redirected to this page now. Please read this page and see if it answers your question.
[Back] to totse.com."
Does that mean it wasn't sent?
Sorry for being stoopid http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
quote:Originally posted by acid_drop:
Hey. I just went to the "contact" us thingy and sent in a message. But it gaveme this message:
"Based on a comprehensive computer analysis of your feedback message using advanced artificial intelligence techniques, we have determined that there is a 97% probability that the answer to your question is on the "Frequently Asked Questions About totse.com" page. You will be automatically redirected to this page now. Please read this page and see if it answers your question.
[Back] to totse.com."
Does that mean it wasn't sent?
Sorry for being stoopid http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
I'm sure it was sent. http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)
THEatomicpunk
2006-06-25, 01:15
quote:Originally posted by DaSpammer:
Ban me and the spamming will stop
spinal_cord
2006-06-25, 01:33
Jeff- I'll bet you just enjoy watching all hell break loose in this "little world" you have created. Enjoy playing the role of god? I think you do. Have fun with it all.
In my own words.............
Please die you motherfucker.
KooperParakarry
2006-06-25, 03:09
I see 7 pages for this thread, so I think Jeff posted. I was disappointed.
LOL great work mods, keep that spammer out of here!
*rolls eyes*
Spam Man Sam
2006-06-25, 05:34
DaSpammer, your getting lynched tommorow along with all your spammer bretheren.
KarEEmDaNIggA
2006-06-25, 05:37
The fuck...
Jeff, where is JC Stanton when we need him the most?
AreteVeteran
2006-06-25, 06:31
HLA is a minium standard reguarding how well Department of Defense simulations inter communicate. Its designed specifically for simulation applications, and is an improvement over the old standards that were not compatible when changes to the original system were made. HLA is all encompassing, and can rapidly evolve to its changing environment. Now more, newer, and constantly changing simulations can interact and still be monitored for quality on a consistant scale, making the systems reusable ad infinum. The new standard also saves money and time that once had to be spent on producing new systems.
At least thats my take...
Now stop.
/AV/
[This message has been edited by AreteVeteran (edited 06-25-2006).]
Rizzo in a box
2006-06-25, 07:01
quote:Originally posted by AreteVeteran:
HLA is a minium standard reguarding how well Department of Defense simulations inter communicate. Its designed specifically for simulation applications, and is an improvement over the old standards that were not compatible when changes to the original system were made. HLA is all encompassing, and can rapidly evolve to its changing environment. Now more, newer, and constantly changing simulations can interact and still be monitored for quality on a consistant scale, making the systems reusable ad infinum. The new standard also saves money and time that once had to be spent on producing new systems.
At least thats my take...
Now stop.
/AV/
+1
Hey you guys remember the post in news of the temple. Which Jeff said something like: "When you don't hear from me in a long while, then you should start worrying. Because I might be planning something and you may actually love it!"
I really hope this is one of those moments!
You mean its really jeff spamming the forums himself?
vatoloco9892
2006-06-25, 09:10
quote:Originally posted by cronic5:
Come on Jeff, for the good of totse.
Edit: COME ON JEFF!!!
Your own site is going to hell.
pianoSpleen
2006-06-25, 09:50
I'm impressed. Obviously you need to find out how these people are getting around flood control (I'm guessing multiple proxies) and prevent it from working... then again, if they have multiple accounts AND proxies it'd be exceedingly hard.
I think it's rather unlikely that closing registration will really help, but it's possible.
*can't be fucked thinking further about what to do, and since this probably won't be read by anyone of significance anyway this is immaterial*
deus-redux
2006-06-25, 10:31
quote:Originally posted by pianoSpleen:
I'm impressed. Obviously you need to find out how these people are getting around flood control (I'm guessing multiple proxies) and prevent it from working... then again, if they have multiple accounts AND proxies it'd be exceedingly hard.
I think it's rather unlikely that closing registration will really help, but it's possible.
*can't be fucked thinking further about what to do, and since this probably won't be read by anyone of significance anyway this is immaterial*
Have a limit on how many different ip addresses an account can use in a space of time (enough to allow for dynamic ip but not a ton of proxies)
-deus-
pianoSpleen
2006-06-25, 11:12
quote:Originally posted by deus-redux:
Have a limit on how many different ip addresses an account can use in a space of time (enough to allow for dynamic ip but not a ton of proxies)
-deus-
No, what I was saying was, if there's two different accounts and two different IPs/proxies, for all they know those ARE two seperate people with seperate accounts. Obviously if they somehow implement that system the spammers will just start having multiple accounts.
Closing registration is a temporary solution, and can't work in the long term. Plus if these spammers have any intelligence whatsoever they'll already have multiple accounts saved up (same for many posters).
In short, there's no simple cure-all solution. Managing a forum this large is a very, very difficult task. Maybe if you took the IRC approach and had numerous half-mods and the like... but that would need a forum software upgrade.
Edit: Actually, that's an idea... closing registration until you can negotiate an upgrade that can put a stop to these spammers for good. Still, not too likely.
[This message has been edited by pianoSpleen (edited 06-25-2006).]
Loss for words. Goodnight.
Criminal Money
2006-06-25, 11:38
Totse is going down... c'mon Jeff!
1337_freak
2006-06-25, 11:42
This is fucking stupid. Jeff, we were warning you about noobs ALL THIS TIME, and NOW look what happened. Thanks to you being a little bitch, Totse is going down. Thanks a lot, asshole. You would think you would care about your own site a little more.
@Kate: You only need to be stripped of your abilty to mod.
@Stormy: Same goes to you asshole.
quote:Originally posted by 1337_freak:
This is fucking stupid. Jeff, we were warning you about noobs ALL THIS TIME, and NOW look what happened. Thanks to you being a little bitch, Totse is going down. Thanks a lot, asshole. You would think you would care about your own site a little more.
@Kate: You only need to be stripped of your abilty to mod.
@Stormy: Same goes to you asshole.
Darling, what happens on #totse, doesn't effect totse.com -I only KICKED you, not banned you http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
1337_freak
2006-06-25, 12:10
quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:
Darling, what happens on #totse, doesn't effect totse.com -I only KICKED you, not banned you http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
it was for a bullshit reason too.
CurrentX
2006-06-25, 12:33
Jeff is probably watching all of this closely, because he's curious as to what will happen if Totse is left to its own devices for an extended period of time.
1337_freak
2006-06-25, 12:45
quote:Originally posted by CurrentX:
Jeff is probably watching all of this closely, because he's curious as to what will happen if Totse is left to its own devices for an extended period of time.
QFT
it all makes sense now
moby_dick
2006-06-25, 12:47
quote:Originally posted by CurrentX:
Jeff is probably watching all of this closely, because he's curious as to what will happen if Totse is left to its own devices for an extended period of time.
Probably not; I don't think Jeff'd let us all go to hell to satisfy his curiosity.
I don't know what's going on, to be honest; he's not doing anything visible, but that doesn't make any sense.
Just try not to panic. It'll all turn out ok somehow.
(edit: completely changed my post)
[This message has been edited by moby_dick (edited 06-25-2006).]
jsaxton14
2006-06-25, 15:25
I don't know what to think of this. On the one hand, closing registrations is indeed a quick and dirty way of stopping most of the spamming. On the other hand, it isn't going to stop all of the spam, it's going to pr
Here's what I would do.
Close registrations, for starters.
Begin writing new forum software with the following functionality:
-Blocks posting from all known proxies
-Has the Captcha feature that theSpam suggested. For those of you that don't know, a Captcha is simply a bunch of letters and numbers that are distorted so a human, but not a computer, can read them. This is often used by free email account providers to prevent automated registrations.
-Has the "panic button" that angustheotherwhitemeat suggested. The panic button would simply stop users who had registered in the past 60 days from posting new threads.
With these three features, totse could block any scripted attack (with the Captchas), and if someone decided to spam, we could easily IP ban them as most proxies would be blocked. Furthermore, if all of this fails for some reason, a mod could press the panic button until an admin was on the scene.
This solution keeps the totse community open to all while purging it of these spammers.
deus-redux
2006-06-25, 15:50
quote:Originally posted by jsaxton14:
I don't know what to think of this. On the one hand, closing registrations is indeed a quick and dirty way of stopping most of the spamming. On the other hand, it isn't going to stop all of the spam, it's going to pr
Here's what I would do.
Close registrations, for starters.
Begin writing new forum software with the following functionality:
-Blocks posting from all known proxies
-Has the Captcha feature that theSpam suggested. For those of you that don't know, a Captcha is simply a bunch of letters and numbers that are distorted so a human, but not a computer, can read them. This is often used by free email account providers to prevent automated registrations.
-Has the "panic button" that angustheotherwhitemeat suggested. The panic button would simply stop users who had registered in the past 60 days from posting new threads.
With these three features, totse could block any scripted attack (with the Captchas), and if someone decided to spam, we could easily IP ban them as most proxies would be blocked. Furthermore, if all of this fails for some reason, a mod could press the panic button until an admin was on the scene.
This solution keeps the totse community open to all while purging it of these spammers.
Hear hear!
-deus-
KarEEmDaNIggA
2006-06-25, 16:57
quote:Originally posted by DaSpammer:
Hey everybody shut up, I\'m trying to spam overhere
Is that you, J.C Stanton?
deus-redux
2006-06-25, 17:01
EVERYBODY BACK TO THE SHELTER!
-deus-
does J.C Stanton even post on totse?
Chainhit
2006-06-25, 18:17
Better idea, apoint me mod for SG.
My micro is good for warcraft three
and i can delete those spam threads as quick as can be
kate, your just lazy
I am fucking pissed off.
look whats happening to SG!
the mods there obviously don't want there job, so get some new mods that do.
will someone PLEASE make me or some one elts that wants to be a mod a mod?
PLEASE!
MASSIVE SPAM ATTACK ON SG RIGHT NOW !!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Da Black Ice
2006-06-25, 21:10
quote:Originally posted by 13579:
I am fucking pissed off.
look whats happening to SG!
the mods there obviously don't want there job, so get some new mods that do.
will someone PLEASE make me or some one elts that wants to be a mod a mod?
PLEASE!
20 more mods seems about right.
KooperParakarry
2006-06-25, 21:15
quote:Originally posted by 13579:
I am fucking pissed off.
look whats happening to SG!
the mods there obviously don't want there job, so get some new mods that do.
will someone PLEASE make me or some one elts that wants to be a mod a mod?
PLEASE!
Hated One has been deleting spam all day.
Da Black Ice
2006-06-25, 21:17
Which is why we need some temporary mods to help delete all the spam.
Da Black Ice
2006-06-25, 21:18
And issue bans of course.
acidmelt
2006-06-25, 21:37
UBB doesnt permit more than 4 mods per forum.
Vilkacis
2006-06-25, 22:03
I guess no-one apart from Jeff Hunter knows the answer to this, but will this forum version ever be updated? I mean I love it but if spammers can be banned more easily and basically a cleaner forum is possible, then thats an option?
UPSbomberman
2006-06-25, 23:00
SG is getting fucked pretty bad now...
Vilkacis
2006-06-25, 23:29
Everyone's trying to bump old threads to push off the '%' spam, but it's pretty pointless.
Goddamnit. I come back here after my other place goes offline and here's a bunch of fucking little whining pukes going on about how they should be given more power. AAHaaahhaaaaaaahaaaaaa....
Fuck You :}
a telephone eater
2006-06-26, 00:35
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
UBB doesnt permit more than 4 mods per forum.
Acidmelt can I talk to you, or get you to check your mail?
If you can you email me at iamincarnate@hotmail.com ?
Please, thanks.
THEatomicpunk
2006-06-26, 01:25
quote:Originally posted by a telephone eater:
Acidmelt can I talk to you, or get you to check your mail?
If you can you email me at iamincarnate@hotmail.com ?
Please, thanks.
Date Registered: 06-25-2006
Status: Regular
Total Posts: 26
why would he want to talk to you?
We could do like something aweful and charge people a one-time fee to become members. THAT would stop all but serious posters. Have a grandfather clause so those of us who already are active won't have to pay but make all new accounts cost em.
among_the_living
2006-06-26, 01:39
Whoever posted the idea of a flood controll on topics as well as posts and closing registration has a pretty good idea.
quote:Originally posted by Da Black Ice:
20 more mods seems about right.
yep.
KarEEmDaNIggA
2006-06-26, 02:18
quote:Originally posted by PGF:
does J.C Stanton even post on totse?
Of course he does, he has many other names and goes around spamming forums!
quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:
Darling, what happens on #totse, doesn't effect totse.com -I only KICKED you, not banned you http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
I didn't know you guys had an IRC channel. What server is it on?
Wow, I finally venture out of my regular 2 forums and it turns out totse has gone to hell even more than it had last time I wandered off.
Maybe a replacement is in order?
Anyone(else) want to bring back the real man's forum???
Dope Dorm
2006-06-26, 02:51
quote:Originally posted by rlpinca:
Wow, I finally venture out of my regular 2 forums and it turns out totse has gone to hell even more than it had last time I wandered off.
Maybe a replacement is in order?
Anyone(else) want to bring back the real man's forum???
'bout fucking time! where ya been, dude?
DEADBEATDAD
2006-06-26, 03:00
You can find it on google...>_>
I edit'ed it out in case.
[This message has been edited by DEADBEATDAD (edited 06-26-2006).]
VivaLaAmsterdam
2006-06-26, 03:02
AH!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS? if that really is his number hes going to be getting prank calls to shit!!!!
IDIOT!!!!
DEADBEATDAD
2006-06-26, 03:10
quote:Originally posted by VivaLaAmsterdam:
AH!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS? if that really is his number hes going to be getting prank calls to shit!!!!
IDIOT!!!!
I dont know Dumbass I found it on google http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)
I know everyone thinks I'm a n00b and what not, but seriously... close registration for a little while, things will clear up some.
I remember when registration was locked for so long... *sigh* Even though it may drive potential members away if they plan on contributing or learning anything about Totse they will wait for registration to open back up to join!
I waited for a long time, given that I simply lurked for a long time(Late 04 till /08/05. I hardly posted with my first account, but hell, I didn't have the time but I registered anyways so that if I did have time I'd be able to post in a case such as was time of old.
Yeah... long winded I know.
Spam Man Sam
2006-06-26, 05:41
quote:Originally posted by rlpinca:
Anyone(else) want to bring back the real man's forum???
Yeah man, lets bring that back.
KarEEmDaNIggA
2006-06-26, 05:53
quote:Originally posted by maurovz:
I didn't know you guys had an IRC channel. What server is it on?
LOL! See that thing on the left, under "Community bulletin Board" It says "Chat" That's the IRC channel buddy.
Hey mods! If you ban proxies what will happen to the people whose ISP's use transparent proxies to connect to the internet? We won't be able to use totse even if we have our connection settings in firefox or IE set to connect directly to the internet! Because the proxies are on the ISP servers and they use them to manage traffic. So its outside of our control. Some websites seem to think I'm running a proxy and some don't. I'm set to connect directly to the internet. So for the user's who's ISPs use transparent proxies do you think you could make sure the script allows transparent proxies?
I'll never be able to go on totse again and it will be the same for a lot of others.
Pharma Joe
2006-06-26, 12:16
Dam these spammers... Can't the gates be closed for a while?
quote:Originally posted by maurovz:
I didn't know you guys had an IRC channel. What server is it on?
slashnet
1337_freak
2006-06-26, 12:32
quote:Originally posted by jsaxton14:
I don't know what to think of this. On the one hand, closing registrations is indeed a quick and dirty way of stopping most of the spamming. On the other hand, it isn't going to stop all of the spam, it's going to pr
Here's what I would do.
Close registrations, for starters.
Begin writing new forum software with the following functionality:
-Blocks posting from all known proxies
-Has the Captcha feature that theSpam suggested. For those of you that don't know, a Captcha is simply a bunch of letters and numbers that are distorted so a human, but not a computer, can read them. This is often used by free email account providers to prevent automated registrations.
-Has the "panic button" that angustheotherwhitemeat suggested. The panic button would simply stop users who had registered in the past 60 days from posting new threads.
With these three features, totse could block any scripted attack (with the Captchas), and if someone decided to spam, we could easily IP ban them as most proxies would be blocked. Furthermore, if all of this fails for some reason, a mod could press the panic button until an admin was on the scene.
This solution keeps the totse community open to all while purging it of these spammers.
I think you have the best idea here. That would suck for some people (the newly registered that arent Trolls) but ya know what? Who cares. The Panic! button would only be till the admin was on scene right? Actualy it should be to were ONLY an admin could turn off the panic! button once pressed.
I'm all for a probation period of two weeks or less when registering. It worked wonders for roguesci.org forums.
Alas, roguesci is now mostly dead except for a handful of people but that was due to their strict compliance policies and their policy of never bringing up a topic twice, you had to instead only discuss it in prior threads or risk the consequences. The site design has also significantly changed there since I joined but I never posted. Actually I'm rather surprised it still exists, but I'm getting rather off-topic here.
Otherwise, much as many on totse, they'd die to spread information freely.
acidmelt
2006-06-26, 13:20
Come on now Jeff buddy, its been days now! We need this ability. Youre killin me and zok! I havent used the purge user function this many times EVER. This is out of control man. At least post and let us know your decision.
xoctopusx
2006-06-26, 14:27
acidmelt, your post makes me sad http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
quote:Originally posted by Spam Man Sam:
Yeah man, lets bring that back.
Someone else will have to do it. I don't have the time or the patience to do it. But I'd happily participate.
What's "the real mans forum"? What did it contain? Sounds manly though.
Just don't advertise it all over the place this time.
Pharma Joe
2006-06-26, 16:46
I've sent emails to Jeff and acidmelt asking about my account, i've enevv posted in many forums/threads... still no answer.
Why was my account banned? my user name was hell fire.
My email is hellfire_808@hotmail.com
I just think it's unfare to ban me when I did nothing wrong? At least give an explanation as to why I was banned. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
quote:Originally posted by Star Wars Fan:
They tried this with Goatse. They then placed g0atse, etc. They'll find a awy around it.
The idea is that you put a spell-corrected version through the filter, that way "g0atse" would be sent to the filtered as "goatse".
bain surgeon
2006-06-26, 18:36
JEFFS DEAD!!!!!!!!
i think that would be the best thing to do to fix up the site again.
acid_drop
2006-06-26, 22:16
quote:Originally posted by rlpinca:
Wow, I finally venture out of my regular 2 forums and it turns out totse has gone to hell even more than it had last time I wandered off.
Maybe a replacement is in order?
Anyone(else) want to bring back the real man's forum???
I'll regular the RMF if you bring it back http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
I have an idea, but I don't have a clue whether it's already in use. But fuck it, here goes.
Basically, the mods should all get together and draw up a timetable - so it works out that there is at least one mod keeping an eye on things every hour of the day. Time slots can be drawn up in the mod forum (if it exists, most forums have one), and can be discussed and traded .etc so that shit doesn't hit the fan when a mod has work/is on holiday/wants some free time or whatever. In order to prove that a mod has done his/her duty, each mod should be required to make a post every time they come on and check things in the mod forum, in order to see that everyone is doing their duty. Failure to do so = demodding.
Also, it might be handy to work out the average amounts of posts for each forum for each hour of the day. That way, the timetable can be drawn up in such a way that there is more mods when there's more users posting.
I know it's near enough impossible to block a full on spam attack until the spammer gets bored - given the current forum technology, but i'm sure the above procedures could help things out a bit. I know it's a bit far off, but maybe one of the admins should give out their password to a few of the trusted mods - that way, action can be taken a lot quicker.
Closing registration will fuck up totse. For every 20 users which are wankers - 1 might be a productive, useful members. I think it's worth putting up with a page of n00bish bollocks if it means seeing one decent post which will teach you something.
The other alternative of course, is a certain someone implementing some decent anti-spam measures for the board... http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
lisdexic
2006-06-26, 22:25
Jeff , Jeff.
Lookout , acidmelt has gone crazy and said he was going to kill SG.
quote:Originally posted by Limecat:
Just don't advertise it all over the place this time.
That was I love poop with the confidential source trolling crap.
quote:Originally posted by acid_drop:
I'll regular the RMF if you bring it back http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
What is the RMF?!?!?
quote:Originally posted by rlpinca:
That was I love poop with the confidential source trolling crap.
Haha, that stuff all seems so stupid now. I forgot all about ILP. Alright.
Sybil: RMF is Real Man's Forum.
tatued30
2006-06-26, 23:54
quote:Originally posted by sybil:
What is the RMF?!?!?
the real mans forum....a very good but short lived message board
quote:Originally posted by tatued30:
the real mans forum....a very good but short lived message board
And what did it contain? Was it like SG but better, or what? on totse, or not?
Dope Dorm
2006-06-27, 00:43
quote:Originally posted by sybil:
And what did it contain? Was it like SG but better, or what? on totse, or not?
It was all the totse vets on one forum. It was created when all that wintermute shit hit the fan and alot of people left. If rlpinca doesn't want to bring it back I'll set up the board again. I was M4DD_H4773R on TRMF http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
1337_freak
2006-06-27, 01:09
Maybe Jeff DID die. . .
What happened to the waiting time between your registration and you having the ability to post it talks about in the FAQ? That would be semi effective way to stop it unless they're obsessive.
DEADBEATDAD
2006-06-27, 03:28
*smells air*
I hate the smell of n00bs in the morning. http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)
Jeff should close Registration ftw!
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Part 1: The Vision
By Aaron Zelman
Executive Director, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
with Claire Wolfe and Richard W Stevens
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l33t_looser
2006-06-27, 04:49
i do not usually get involved because spamming on totse has never been as bad as it is now, but, it has totally 100% interrupted my entertainment and my joy when i get online. this NEEDS TO STOP, i have a suggestion.
You notice that year after year, when school lets out, the spamfest kicks in, every year getting worse? well turn of reg when summer starts, turn it back on when school starts.
i bet that would cut spam down to a very managable amount. Heck, make me a friggin admin and i will slaughter for the sake of totse, oh yes there will be bloodshed..
but i prefer the first idea, i hate violence.
TooManyDoses
2006-06-27, 07:06
quote:Originally posted by l33t_looser:
turn off reg when summer starts, turn it back on when school starts.
[This message has been edited by TooManyDoses (edited 06-27-2006).]
quote:Originally posted by Dope Dorm:
It was all the totse vets on one forum. It was created when all that wintermute shit hit the fan and alot of people left. If rlpinca doesn't want to bring it back I'll set up the board again. I was M4DD_H4773R on TRMF http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
I wanna see it http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)
yoda_me07
2006-06-27, 12:39
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
Come on now Jeff buddy, its been days now! We need this ability. Youre killin me and zok! I havent used the purge user function this many times EVER. This is out of control man. At least post and let us know your decision.
where the hell is JC stanton?
I've seen jeff post, but never stanton..
well jeff only comes on.. or posts... 10 times a year.
*thinks of jeff walking in with shotgun saying now everyone shut the fuck up and listen*
I'm going to get a cup of tea.
acidmelt
2006-06-27, 14:46
Still nothing..... no email replies.... no replies in the thread... come on buddy, give us the tools we need to do our jobs the way they need to be done!
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
Still nothing..... no email replies.... no replies in the thread... come on buddy, give us the tools we need to do our jobs the way they need to be done!
He's dead.
Admit it. he would have replied your emails or at least replied here. Acidmelt, make another totse.
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
Still nothing..... no email replies.... no replies in the thread... come on buddy, give us the tools we need to do our jobs the way they need to be done!
A.M. you have a big ass gun, but Jeff took away your bullets, it's a damn shame.
But yeah this is taking a little longer than most expected for Jeff to even NOTICE.
I don't know how long he's taken to check up on totse in the past but surely if it reaches mid July we've got a problem. No body know his home number, or the town he lives in? Check for any local deaths? lol.
At the moment it feels like any day now i could wake up, go on totse and it all be gone. Perhaps Jeff notices that the site has gone to complete shit in his absence and just take the thing down for a while until he can be bothered to sort it out.
Ah well, looks like we'll continue to wait.
HTS-Noob
2006-06-27, 17:57
Jeff, even though my opinion means little or nothing at all to you, I feel that it is important to express it.
Registrations must be closed.
Spurious Generalities has recently been attacked with spam on many occasions. It seems the only way to stop spam attacks is registration being closed. With a simple proxy, an IP ban can be circumvented in a matter of seconds, and with regestration open, an account ban does absolutely nothing.
Please, help us Jeff. Either close registration for the admins, or give them the ability to close it.
Sincerely, Sean Twist (AKA HTS-Noob)
KarEEmDaNIggA
2006-06-27, 18:00
Jeff, you must bring in the big gun, in J.C. Stanton to handle this
dfgremnantsunleashed
2006-06-27, 22:48
Jeff Mam you can cloase registration if you want i remember how i got into totse i had to wait over a month to get singed up i waited for it man.
This helped me respect totse more.
Atleast i don't spam totse.
Good Luck.
WannaFuckWannaSex0r
2006-06-28, 00:40
quote:Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA:
Jeff, you must bring in the big gun, in J.C. Stanton to handle this
ive never seen JC stanton do anything.
Are the super admins dead?