not flaming here btw.

If there was no god or anything how did the universe begin. If you say it never began and will never end, why is the concept of god so hard?

SHUT UP. HOLY FUCK. Did the thought that this MAY HAVE BEEN REPEATED A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES ever enter your head?



[This message has been edited by Iscariot2 (edited 06-09-2003).]

the same way you ask that, i could just as easily ask you the ''opposite'' question.

theists believe that god was the first to create the first. (if that doesn't make sense, it means that if you trace everything that exists today, back to one single thing, you'd call that very first thing, ''god.'') this argument is called the argument of the ''first cause.''

now, from an atheist's point of view, if there can be one thing which spawned everything else into existence, you might as well consider it the universe, instead of god. if god doesn't need to have a creator, why does the universe?

[i apologize, if by ''giving this question the time of day'' i've encouraged spam. i personally haven't seen the question asked before, but (in case it's not obvious), i'm new.]



[This message has been edited by humble (edited 06-09-2003).]

WELL HOLY FUCKING SHIT ISCARIOT!!! MY GOOD GOD. WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION GOMER PYLE!! FUCK YOU TOO DUDE. IVE NEVER SEEN THIS QUESTION ASKED. FUCK OFF DUDE

quote:Ah, shut the fuck up please.

Am i right, or am i right.

(yeah im right)



You must be FUCKING RETARDED if you didn't think this topic has been done a million times already.

Go sit in the corner bitch. You flame others for having a somewhat legit topic, but you're blind when it concerns your self.

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

not flaming here btw.

If there was no god or anything how did the universe begin. If you say it never began and will never end, why is the concept of god so hard?

I have a question for you, how did god begin? Answer it! Ok, now that is my answer.

Edit: Sorry for sort of stealing your comment. Humble, I completely agree.

[This message has been edited by Volo (edited 06-09-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

not flaming here btw.

If there was no god or anything how did the universe begin. If you say it never began and will never end, why is the concept of god so hard?

Because the universe hasn't been endowed with distinctly human characteristics.

Because belief in the universe hasn't been the basis of almost every society known. (Well, not until recently)

Because people don't tell me the universe dangles a carrot and carries a stick.

The list goes on...

One word...

Big Bang.

i cant tell you that how god was made, and you cant tell me how the universe was, so how do you know you are right. basically im saying that if you cant find the origin of life in your "religion" (dont know what to call athiesm, beliefs maybe?) then why do you go around proclaiming the truth or whatever. Lots of athiests seem to go apeshit if a christian says theyre going to hell because theres no proof. But theres no proof for being athiest either so wtf...

Iscariot,

If you read that dudes post you piece of shit, it said that he basically wanted you to repeat back to him what he said so that he could make sure you where listening. Basically being a mommy. So fuck yes i told him to shut the fuck up, and so should your bitch ass.

tigerjk,

Your not answering why the universe has no beginning or end, just that it's not god. And why do what humans think matter? i.e. the basis of civilization, universe hasn't been endowed with distinctly human characteristics, people don't tell me the universe dangles a carrot and carries a stick

btw the big bang is full of holes. Where did the chemicals or whatever come from to make the BIG BANG.



[This message has been edited by bigtmoney (edited 06-09-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

Iscariot,

If you read that dudes post you piece of shit, it said that he basically wanted you to repeat back to him what he said so that he could make sure you where listening. Basically being a mommy. So fuck yes i told him to shut the fuck up, and so should your bitch ass.

Bitches like you need to governed over. Go stare at a wall, simpleton. He had a good question about human awareness. It was original. You on the other hand have a cliche on your hands.



[This message has been edited by Iscariot2 (edited 06-09-2003).]

fuck off and die iscariot.

your an annoying piece of shit who gets crabby when people dont know about this as much as you. Ive been here for like 2 weeks and never seen my question asked.

could you please paraphrase what i stated earlier in the post. The first line of it to be exact. or is that another cliche thats too hard for you to handle?

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

fuck off and die iscariot.

Make me.

quote:

your an annoying piece of shit who gets crabby when people dont know about this as much as you. Ive been here for like 2 weeks and never seen my question asked.

Wow! Two whole weeks!

quote:

could you please paraphrase what i stated earlier in the post. The first line of it to be exact. or is that another cliche thats too hard for you to handle?

It's been done you cliche fucking swine.

I guess that guy in the other post was right. people on totse dont listen. I ask for iscariot to rephrase the first line of my post (to make sure hes listening) but he just cant do it.

Darn!

no one will ever know the answer to your question. I am all with humble here. I dont konw what your religious beliefs are but the bible says that a mystical man in the sky appeared out of nowhere and created the world in 6 days. It seems a lot harder to believe that than to believe the big bang theory. I cant tell you where the original molecules came from (just as you cant tell me where god came from), but its a lot more sensible to accept a scientific explaination. Maybe it takes an absence of faith to see that?

god isn't fucking real-get the fuck over it!

see there you go again. saying that athiesm is right just because no on knows for sure. Thats so fucking dumb.

[This message has been edited by bigtmoney (edited 06-09-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

not flaming here btw.

That was the interesting part of your post.

Well, quite funny of a request. Are you the minister of education, or some kind of a sheriff to tell us what to do? You're lucky, asstray, I'm not in the mood for flame, even though you're inflamous...

what are you talking about urbn? i didnt get anything you said after the "that was the funniest part of your post". Who am i telling what to do, wtf is this minister of eductation?

quote:Originally posted by Volo:

[B]I have a question for you, how did god begin? Answer it!

B]

good question! where did everything come from if not god? howabout where did your god come from, and if you awnser, he has always been and always will be then that is not very creative. The creator was created much like the creator before him, where is the origin? where does space begin or end? that is the question

Exactly.

quote:Originally posted by bigtmoney:

what are you talking about urbn? i didnt get anything you said after the "that was the funniest part of your post". Who am i telling what to do, wtf is this minister of eductation?

WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

An alien has been landing on totse. Wrong forum aliens go to science of the damned.

The ET entity tells you not to flame, then pretends not being authoritarian. Acts like a minister of education, and claims Che Guevara type recognition. Are you a deputy prime antiflame minister, fuck?

god is not a god but an enity, an extraterrestrial biological enity that is far superior to us in thier time of existence, and technology. they created us by messing with the dna of apes, what we call aliens have been living on this planet possibly longer then us, underground, in the dulce region. the book and religion was created by them, and so was jesus, they artificially inseminated his mom after an abduction then abducted him after his crucifixion and set him straight, he wandered around forming an explanation for the rest of his life, getting a few ideas from buddisim. jesus was a smart man, and christianity is a blind fold

Again urbn you make no sense. could someone other than urbn explain to me what he is trying to say, because his explanitions, make me much more confused

bigtmoney - If you couldn't understand what UrbnTbone is saying, I'll spell it out for you.

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING RETARD.

[This message has been edited by Iscariot2 (edited 06-09-2003).]

O, i thought it had something to do with an alien named ET. Thanks asscarrot.

I guess that guy in the other post was right. people on totse dont listen. I ask for bigtfaggot to shut the fuck up but he just cant do it.

Darn!

Lol i love the way this thread is going.

me too, but my nickname for you takes much more creativeness.

fucking asscarrot



[This message has been edited by bigtmoney (edited 06-10-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by Kendjo:

howabout where did your god come from, and if you awnser, he has always been and always will be then that is not very creative. The creator was created much like the creator before him, where is the origin? where does space begin or end? that is the question

you might want to consider the possiblity of an actual ''always.'' by ''always'' i mean, absolutely forever. the concept is either next-to--, or absolutely impossible to comprehend. so, in actuality, if someone were to answer, ''he has always been and always will be'' that would be the most creative answer possible, because you'd have to create the concept of an ''always'' which most, if not all, people can't quite grasp.

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combined post:

bigtmoney, and iscariot2:

could you kindly stop bickering? which of you is going to play the role of ''the bigger man'' and take the final insult, with a grain of salt? both of you seem to have ego problems, as i see it.

thanks in advance, i think and/or hope.

quote:Originally posted by Iscariot2:

Lol i love the way this thread is going. It's going up the bigtmonkey's butt. Thanks for defending me while I was sleeping.

hem... Morning shift punching in.

Bigtlemon don't take it personally, BTW do you shave your asshole?