This is a link to various books on the universal code Judaism has for the whole mankind. Just to dismiss hatred litterature about supposedly national God and community religion.

Here (http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/rl/gen-noachide.html)

I just checked out your links and...

NO INFORMATION AT ALL IS AVAILABLE WITHOUT PAYING? Go post somewhere else, asshole!!!

quote:Originally posted by NChSh:

I just checked out your links and...

NO INFORMATION AT ALL IS AVAILABLE WITHOUT PAYING? Go post somewhere else, asshole!!! Wow! Got bitten by the Nchsh!

Gosh, was just showing the notion of universal faith and brotherhood is totally in accordance with Judaism, cos' there are fuckers who pretend the opposite. Judaism is universal. Antisemitism can't accept that truth, they are always trying to show Jews are racist, their religion as a stupid cast system. Destroy!

I thought it was pretty obvious myself, since one doesn't have to be a Jew to be righteous in G-d's eyes.

Yeah, but the nazi-moslem propaganda has it that Jews not only plan to take over the world, also they are hijacking God...

It did make me wonder why only we get God. Someone please explain why no-one else gets God. And Kikey, stop G-ding totse, you only don't do that when you write out God, and I mean physically write it. How can someone desecrate a post?

HA HA HA HA HA!

quote:Originally posted by Aphelion Corona:

It did make me wonder why only we get God. Someone please explain why no-one else gets God. And Kikey, stop G-ding totse, you only don't do that when you write out God, and I mean physically write it. How can someone desecrate a post? It's like children who feel insecure about parental love and commitment. They need to reinsure themselves they are important. Sometimes they even go through extreme behaviour, like that of pretending the other kid gets all the attention.

Same thing: the miserable soul beggars feel the Jews have it all, so they invent theories to rationalize their hate and jealousy.

The christians pretend God couldn't keep his commitment and was unable to realize his eternal oath with Israel. Now it's "their turn".

The moslims pretend Jews were unworthy of God's choice because God made a mistake and couldn't see the future when he choosed them.

Both ways would tend to imply that God is of either changing mood, or blind,in any case unworthy of man's confidence - God forbid, rachmana lhatsilan, Allah Yeester.

~~~~~~~~~~~~Here are some visualizations for ritual immersion, needed after conversing with the antitheists.

First visualize the living A"Bh name (Miluy yod"in, 72, the root of the mikvah).

Then get through this process:

ALPh HeH YOD HeH (Machshavah, roof of mikvah)

YOD HeH VaV HeH (Kol, walls)

ALPh DaLeTh NUN YOD (Dibbur, pool floor)

Ata Gibor Leolam Adoneye AGL"A (gevuroth, "exorcism")

Naaseh M'Shem AGL"A Shem AL"D (melt alph-Gml,4, into Dlth). Visualize AL"D while immersed.

Then there are two versions: HaARIZaTsa"L, and BeSh"T

AR"I: interweave Alph Heh Yod Heh with AL"D the simple way A A He La Yo Da He

BeSh"T this way:

AL"PH(Gmt.111) Aleph(1) He"H(10) Lamed(30) YO"D(20) He"H Daleth(4)

Arizal is simpler, I can't figure the Besht version point, probably some tsaddikim oral tradition.

The kosher mikvah has the measurements in space and content, that enforce these meditations into a physically permeating stream. 40 Sea"h, 5760 revi'ith, etc... etc... This is the concept of Bokea' Ya"m, the splitting of the re"d se"a, the drawing down of (cleansing) light all through the chaining down of the worlds, to your condition wherever you are standing, in a way of return to the foetal stage, where you are in the womb of Binah, connected like the foetus in the mother's womb, thus purified from any acquired defilement.

Another way to put it: The only way to kosherize clay vessels is to put them back into the oven at the same temperature it took for fabrication. If you put suddenly a very dirty dish, it may burst together with the desintegrating dirt. It may take some patience.

This is the meaning of Yom Kippur too. Once a year the root of the soul reveals into all levels and provides atonement, since at these levels there is no room for blemish.

The same when you learn Kabalah the right way, the levels reached don't take blemishes, so either your vessel bursts - if you don't know what you are touching, or it is renewed and purified(kosherized) - if you are sincerely committed and devo. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif) We are devo.

Rabbi Akiva entered in peace, and returned in peace.

PA"I HT"Ch SaE"L YL"Y LA"V

I didnt read any of the previous posts, esspecialy urban tbones post. I stayed away from that one especially.

*is glad he isn't a Midianite or Egyptian or an inhabitant of Jericho or a member of any other group which stood in the way of YHWH's chosen people*

quote:Originally posted by Aphelion Corona:

And Kikey, stop G-ding totse, you only don't do that when you write out God, and I mean physically write it. How can someone desecrate a post?

If one were to print this page out, there is a possiblity that it could be defaced, and as we ALL know, that just ain't good.

*is glatt dumbasses decline their dumbass identity while posting nonsense*

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

If one were to print this page out, there is a possiblity that it could be defaced, and as we ALL know, that just ain't good. What do you know, I'm horrace? C'mmon ya big sad-dick. Hey, when you jack off what's the difference?

Urbn, you are a fool. End of story. You never make sense, I can read hebrew, so I can tell the rest of you that he's talking shit. Ignore him.

Now AC, if you have more than gossip, you can prove me wrong. Please do so. If not, go back to the womb and learn.

*Am Hooretz! Is begging for sources*

Do you just pretend? Many dumb missionaries also know Hebrew - or think they know the holy tongue of the Kabalah while all they know is a few math operations, ice-cold speculations of some sorts.

Or,

Do you think real information can be dangerous to publish? As is well-known, tradition is like an oven that can kosherize even a clay vessel by the power of fire, but if the vessel is not intended - not ready or trained, too full of it -, it may just burst by liberating its dirt. Tradition has it, that one who reveals to the unworthy is causing terror in the upper realm. But hardware Kabalah purity meditations never left the circle of initiates, none can ever grasp their meaning unless sincere and committed.

- Would a yogi forbid the teaching of yoga in fear of some kali worshippers using them for the wrong purpose?

- Tammuz!

Back to topic: the jewish tradition is offering any human the privilege of initiation. When you are drawn to Kabalah, then you have to know that gossip is considered by law as spilling blood. And anyone with blood on their hands will not enter the temple of God. King David was denied the building of the universal temple in Jerusalem, because he had waged wars, spilled blood. Solomoh his son built it with Hiram.

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

Now AC, if you have more than gossip, you can prove me wrong. Please do so. If not, go back to the womb and learn.

*Am Hooretz! Is begging for sources*

Do you just pretend? Many dumb missionaries also know Hebrew - or think they know the holy tongue of the Kabalah while all they know is a few math operations, ice-cold speculations of some sorts.

Or,

Do you think real information can be dangerous to publish? As is well-known, tradition is like an oven that can kosherize even a clay vessel by the power of fire, but if the vessel is not intended - not ready or trained, too full of it -, it may just burst by liberating its dirt. Tradition has it, that one who reveals to the unworthy is causing terror in the upper realm. But hardware Kabalah purity meditations never left the circle of initiates, none can ever grasp their meaning unless sincere and committed.

- Would a yogi forbid the teaching of yoga in fear of some kali worshippers using them for the wrong purpose?

- Tammuz!

Back to topic: the jewish tradition is offering any human the privilege of initiation. When you are drawn to Kabalah, then you have to know that gossip is considered by law as spilling blood. And anyone with blood on their hands will not enter the temple of God. King David was denied the building of the universal temple in Jerusalem, because he had waged wars, spilled blood. Solomoh his son built it with Hiram.



...the jews blah blah blah blah blah.........................................blah blah blah............

I know Hebrew becuase I was born Jewish. You do not know Jewish law. Do not pretend you do. Did you go to yeshiva? If not, then why do you study Kaballah, which should only be studied after one fully understands the Torah. I don't need to give you sources, I know what I am talking about, whereas you do not.

I speak Hebrew, and thus suggest that you go cus ima shelcha.

Have a nice day http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

To summarise:

THIS MAN IS TALKING SHIT!

HE KNOWS NOTHING OF THE TRUE KABALLAH, WHICH CAN ONLY BE UNDERSTOOD WHEN ONE HAS A FULL GRASP OF THE TORAH, WHICH THIS BOY DOES NOT HAVE.

quote:Originally posted by Aphelion Corona:

How was R' Akiva said to multiply the bastards in Israel? What sugioh do you know? Since you talk yeshivah, I guess you were in a litvack? Or was it a chabad moshiach now? Or an Ariehdery-R'Ovadia place? Speak...

Mir Ponievez Slobodka Brisk?

1.) That makes no sense.

2.) You're an idiot.

3.) You're talking shit.

4.) Your grammar is incorrect.

Edit:

5.) Stop avoiding my point, what gives you the right to disobey the Torah?

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Mayesh lecha, Pseechee. Lech tkabel zine batoches. Achshav hilalti ya ben zonah. Lech lhizdayayn. Mata tsarich licaness li lavridim, metumtam? Lech lacnessia tishtachaveh la pessel rak azov oti. Aval atah motsets 't hazine shel hanatsim. yallah, natati lecha hamesh dakot halllllasss! Nuh tish'al she'elot, yahatichat zevel...

Rabbi akiva hayah possek shecol vlad me'issurey bi'ah hu' mamzer (camocha canir'eh).

Hachamim amru lo: Akivah, ad matye atah marbeh mamzerim b'Israel?

Yallah. Aval da lecha yesh lecha mazal shani ohev otcha.

^ this idiot read a few satanic books and thinks that he knows about Kabbalah. Aleister crowley is his mentor. He throws in a couple known words here and there and pretends that he knows about the Kabbalah. He doesn't even know what the words mean. He know squat!

why only one god!

demand more gods more powers!!!

one god is not enough!

more gods more gods more gods!!!

quote:Originally posted by ATypiCalStuDenT:

why only one god!

demand more gods more powers!!!

one god is not enough!

more gods more gods more gods!!!

LOL

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

Mayesh lecha, Pseechee. Lech tkabel zine batoches. Achshav hilalti ya ben zonah. Lech lhizdayayn. Mata tsarich licaness li lavridim, metumtam? Lech lacnessia tishtachaveh la pessel rak azov oti. Aval atah motsets 't hazine shel hanatsim. yallah, natati lecha hamesh dakot halllllasss! Nuh tish'al she'elot, yahatichat zevel...

Rabbi akiva hayah possek shecol vlad me'issurey bi'ah hu' mamzer (camocha canir'eh).

Hachamim amru lo: Akivah, ad matye atah marbeh mamzerim b'Israel?

Yallah. Aval da lecha yesh lecha mazal shani ohev otcha.



No-one likes a show off. And you're still talking shit, just in another language.

UrbnTbone--

How can you attack intolerance and bigotry by claiming you have the universal answer? Your esoteric Judaism is as much a dogma as Christianity and Islam. Despite the efforts of some Jewish people and philo-Semitic gentiles to deny or silence the Truth, the fact is the Talmud contains many viciously 'anti-Gentilic' verses. Now, this does not mean that all Jewish persons are inherently wicked, anymore than it means that Christians or Muslims are because of some of the self-contradictions and inanities of their religious dogmas. It just simply proves that the rabbis of old were human. Some of them harbored paranoid and irrational prejudices and downright looney ideas, just as other religions have.

The Kabbalah and all of its 'meditations' are no different from any other religious codification. True initiation is a living, evolving thing, outside of time as the Divine Universe is transcendent of such restrictions.

As a white nationalist, I have about as much in common with 'Nazis' as secular Jews have with Lubavitchers. The strong passion and love within myself to promote the survival of my white race, which is racked with self-hate and withering birthrates, is built upon a genuine love of my own people and not a hatred or deathwish toward others. God made both races and individuals different. Why would the Divine do that? Obviously the Divine presented us with a special challenge that divided our loyalties between group and individual, confusing the two. If we destroy the part (and yes white people are a PART of that creation), we destroy the whole. Seeking some kind of universal, one size fits all esoteric Judaism is as foolish as seeking answers in dualistic, Apocalyptic Christianity. There are people who think they are fooling others, but there is scarcely a human being who will not throw up his arm to shield, instinctually, if a knife is wielded at him. The longer the lie lives on, the more wrath the liar faces upon exposure.

Gaelic is distantly related to Semitic languages.

The Celts kept closest to the Language.

Tuatha de Dan, Abu! (Tribe of Dan over all)

S'mise Matthiu (Smish'a Matthiu) I am Matthew

distant realtive to Milesius, Milesius was related to The tribes of Dan and Simeon.

Hiberi, Hibernia,

The first Dolmen (Cromlech) was built by Abraham



Welsh and Hebrew comparisons

____________________________

Aeth: He went, he is gone; hence = Athah

Aml: Plentiful, ample = Hamale

Ydom: the earth = Adamah

Awye: air, sky = auor, or

bu: it came to pass = bo boten, or potten : belly = beten.

brith: bright = barud

cas: hatred = caas (anger).

dafnu: to drop, or distill by drops = nataph, taph

Brit Am Yisrael

________________

http://www.geocities.com/hiberi/

Well as a Jew and as a descendant of nazi genocide I must say that you'd think folks would give us a fucking break!!

but we did get Israel back and never again will we be forced out!

And Muslims who claim to be of Abraham and yet call us satans children and enemy to Islam is just plain absurd!!

And about as ignorant as can be in its mentallity.

Pride in my Tribe I say!!.......

Pride in my Tribe http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)!

quote:Originally posted by Aphelion Corona:



No-one likes a show off. And you're still talking shit, just in another language. If you call that a show off then you don't understand a word. Your word against mine.I'm getting bored with you. But go on, a stupid assle who has time to waste by disturbing others with no reason, won't get me nervous. First, you're wasting your energy. Second, it's good that negative people waste their energy, they are less of a hassle upon others...

quote:Originally posted by Thorfinnr:

UrbnTbone--

How can you attack intolerance and bigotry by claiming you have the universal answer? Sorry, I probably didn't make it clear enough.

The point of an universal code for all mankind is not of detaining universal truth and forcing it upon others like Islam or Xianity, but offering salvation to all mankind without having to convert to Judaism. I knopw, the "offering salvation" is hard to swallow, but if you compare this jewish Noachide code, there is no such open door in Islam or christianity. In those, outside the church/mosque, no salvation.

This thread is showing the - relative - tolerant stand of the jewish faith.

Thus destroying the accusations of a national god, and such hateful nonsense moslims have in their drawers for propaganda.

A religion that needs hatred for its propaganda, is essentially poor in content...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ahelion Corona, your stand for the tolerance of Islam towards Jews, has been thus destroued, which explains your attacks lately. I understood you. So what, don't worry, you're not the first Jew who converted to Islam, or the first Moslem who poses as a Jew on the net.

Just please, leave my shoes alone.

~~~~~~~~~

Now, about talmudic quotes, gentiles in the times of the talmud, were wild boars from which Jews had to protect themselves.

The talmudic definition of gentiles were merciless, in merciless times when the slightest disagreement could turn into a bloodbath. Yes, these people were like animals and the few that knew how to read, would use their knowledge in political/religious attacks that ended up even more bloody than the folks' drunken rampage.

Yes gentiles used to be ignorant, violent beasts. Thank goodness the world evolved.

Back then only the Jews, the chinese, the arabs, and in the xian world a few monks, knew how to read.

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

Ahelion Corona, your stand for the tolerance of Islam towards Jews, has been thus destroued, which explains your attacks lately. I understood you. So what, don't worry, you're not the first Jew who converted to Islam, or the first Moslem who poses as a Jew on the net.

Just please, leave my shoes alone.



I have not converted to Islam. I see no reason to deny my faith, I am Jewish. At least I obey the Torah. Because you do not, you have no right to speak of this issue, and have no right to say that I am posing as a Jew. You must understand, I hate you because you give rational Jews a bad name, not because you think you can prove me wrong.

Leave the Muslims alone, they have done nothing to you. You sheer ignorance is astounding.

One word,

Shallom (or should I say Sallam)

If you were truly Jewish, you would know that the most important commandment and the basis of Judaism is to love your neighbour. May I suggest that you do so?

[off-topic account balancing]

Some guy that you don't know from Eve nor Adam , starts attacking you personally on no coherent basis, then is begging for "love of one's neigbour".

you correct your behaviour first, then please admit you were the one who ridiculed yourself by stating I was always posting rubbish, while you weren't able to start making a point about it. You posted one insult in Hebrew, but you were unable to detect that the lengthy post of mine was not even Hebrew, thus proving that you were a fake.

About the "Torah", then please make some statements about it, so that people around could consider your claim with a bit of serious. By now, AC, all you did was stating:

~~~~~~~~~~

1 Urbn's is not even worth reading

2 But other posters aren't worth a proof, so I will just say he posts nonsense, and

3 Everyone please believe me: my word against his

4 I am shocked, since Urbn didn't express love after I flamed his posts and called him a Torah transgressor, tried to embarrass publicly etc... Everyone is to understand that to me, AphelionC, bad manners have to be met with reverence and good manners.

5 Who am I? My handle says little but my behaviour says a lot.

~~~~~~~~~~

Facing that amount of ACorona selfish blindness, well should I start flaming back? No, sir. You won't push me into that, why would a balanced person loose his temper in front of a barking dog? Ocourse not.

~~~~~~~~~~~

But hey, if you could gain from this exchange that would be my retribution, even though you are not a Jew, since I don't care what's your race, could you just learn and be a better person!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If the topic disturbs you, and you are trying to ruin it, well too bad, you achieved that.

You can be proud of your destructive skills.

But what goes around comes around, so watch your 'karma gilgoul'.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hail Þorfinnr, Scandinavian brethren! He makes quite a blatantly obvious but ill-addressed point: if I, as an Indo-European, said "Pride in my Tribe," I would be flagellated, mocked, and crucified. Yet Jamiroquai gets away with it?

By the way, you're the eternally victimized people because Jews exist as leeches off other civilizations since you were just the Khazaarians.

Þorfinnr, I assume you are an Asatruar?

Heil Kameraðschaft Northeim!

quote:Originally posted by Thorfinnr:

UrbnTbone--

How can you attack intolerance and bigotry by claiming you have the universal answer? Your esoteric Judaism is as much a dogma as Christianity and Islam. That could be. It's not "mine". I'm only fighting the tremendous amount of lies, disinformation and ignorance on Judaism. Well, one drop can't fight the ocean, Jews won't be able to prove their points. But hey, I hate lies and proselitizing. quote:

Now, this does not mean that all Jewish persons are inherently wicked, anymore than it means that Christians or Muslims are because of some of the self-contradictions and inanities of their religious dogmas. It just simply proves that the rabbis of old were human. Some of them harbored paranoid and irrational prejudices and downright looney ideas, just as other religions have. I already answered that: the talmud was written in times when the gentiles were mostlypacks of illiterated, blood-thirsty wild beasts. quote:

The Kabbalah and all of its 'meditations' are no different from any other religious codification. True initiation is a living, evolving thing, outside of time as the Divine Universe is transcendent of such restrictions. OK quote:

As a white nationalist, I have about as much in common with 'Nazis' as secular Jews have with Lubavitchers. LOL quote: The strong passion and love within myself to promote the survival of my white race, which is racked with self-hate and withering birthrates, is built upon a genuine love of my own people and not a hatred or deathwish toward others. Worthy you, you must be very precious to God. quote: God made both races and individuals different. Why would the Divine do that? Obviously the Divine presented us with a special challenge that divided our loyalties between group and individual, confusing the two. Very fine. That kind of religious investigation is one trademark of Lubavitcher thought BTW: applying human logic in the spiritual. God can be logically "understood" in some ways. quote:If we destroy the part (and yes white people are a PART of that creation), we destroy the whole. That's right, and since God created everything, why try to suppress part of his creation? (Besides the essential: sensitive people won't rationalize intolerance and racism) quote: Seeking some kind of universal, one size fits all esoteric Judaism is as foolish as seeking answers in dualistic, Apocalyptic Christianity. Well, that's not the case with the Jews: their Torah has a special mention for Gentiles, called the 7 noachide laws. Part of them are identical to the specifically jewish "10 commandments", they are supposed to insure social stability and provide Gentiles with a basic system for approaching God, and even attain "higher spiritual status than a great priest of Israel in the holy of holies, according to each individual's merit and actions."(Maimonides, Yad, conclusion of the laws of poverty, tithing and charity.)

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There are people who think they are fooling others, but there is scarcely a human being who will not throw up his arm to shield, instinctually, if a knife is wielded at him. The longer the lie lives on, the more wrath the liar faces upon exposure.[/b][/QUOTE] I believe there are people fooling themselves, and others consequently.

So much, I just wrote a long answer, since the bigots and nuts stopped ruining this thread (they gave a pause).

But it got lost. Gosh! So this was a shortened version. What I did emphasize more in the first, lost post, was the affinity I feel with your way of thinking, Thorfinnr. Thank you for your contribution, sane material had gotten quite rare, and appreciated since the spammers, stalkers and fakers took over...

Anyway, that was about an hour of lost work.

I should've saved it on my clip b4 getting some other article on totse which was relevant to the post at some digressive point: http://www.totse.com/en/religion/eastern_religions/introductionto170460.html

In there, one can see the venom Islam keeps spitting at Jews and Judaism, "not even a religion". Well, Mr AphelCoron (choose a shorter handle) on that "reading the Kur'an" thread, was defending some verses in the Kur'an that are used by moslems when proselitizing towards Jews. The basic catch is, "they are proud, so give them respect first". But when you read that article on ismailism (linked), you get the true picture of what AC was defending: pure uncompromising antisemitic lies.



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I was merely stating that as a Jew you should probably put forward the Jewish reasonings to these problems, rather than spouting shit about Kabbalah, which you should not be learning.

I am not defending the racist views of others, I am only trying to curb your racist views.

Much of the stuff you say about Judaism is wildly out of context and you are no better than these racists that talk of the Jewish national God.

I have already proved that you are both a liar and a plaguarist, I'll be looking forward to the next article that you leech from Aish.com

"The basic catch is, "they are proud, so give them respect first""

Please do not take this man's word for it, read the Qur'an yourself and make your own decision. Why let a moron summarise something that he does not care to understand?

You make me sick Urbn, get an education.

I'm sure glad that there are enough people to spread "pure uncompromising antisemitic lies" to balance out the shit that is fountaining from your keyboard.

Well there is no shame in the world anymore:

now you can get away with flaming someone without even making a point. Again: your word against mine, you can't help but gossip instead of arguing sanely.

I don't believe you are jewish, well actually it doesn't matter. All you are doing here is troublemaker, because obviously the topic disturbs you. I will still maintain that Judaism is not proselitizing on other faiths, just because it estimates otherpeople's faiths as valid as soon as they respect 7 basic laws.

We are far from the "jewish national god and tribe religion" your moslem friends libel the Jews with. Anyway why the hecktch do you need to insert your wishy-washy-jewishy flames around here?

Be franckly antisemitic, like all these nazis & moslems on totse, we won't blame you for assuming your opinions. Actually for the sake of discussions, people like you are necessary, even sometimes fun to interact with. But you are doing some kind of a half-half piss-off show. Say you're pissed off because I'm defending Jews against a flood of hysteria, just don't pretend to be my jewish big brother giving me a slap for Torah misbehaviour. Comm'on GAL (get a life).

quote:Originally posted by Keltoiberserker:

Gaelic is distantly related to Semitic languages.

Welsh and Hebrew comparisons

____________________________

Aml: Plentiful, ample = Hamale

Heb. "full": Maleh

Ydom: the earth = Adamah

Heb. "silent": Ydom

bu: it came to pass = bo boten, or potten :

Heb. "come, came": Bo, Ba

cas: hatred = caas (anger).

dafnu: to drop, or distill by drops = nataph, taph

Brit Am Yisrael

________________

http://www.geocities.com/hiberi/ I knew of an american guy in Israel who wrote books about that celtic/Brit-Ish connection.

"we won't blame you for assuming your opinions"

Your opinions are racist and this is one of the two reasons I disregard everything that you say. Don't be such a fucking idiot.

I am "racist" by countering the antisemites who claim Judaism is racist, and showing how Judaism is the only of three monotheist religions, to accept people can be saved even if they don't convert...

Yeah, yeah...

Sorry, but you're six feet under. Sorry. OK do you wanna make peace with me?

urbantbone.

i think you should change your name to TotalArseHole.

you write boring crap that gets everyone nowhere.

your talk is cheap...and full of shit.

get of your high horse YOU TIT.

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

I am "racist" by countering the antisemites who claim Judaism is racist, and showing how Judaism is the only of three monotheist religions, to accept people can be saved even if they don't convert...

And the statements in the Talmud that anything a Gentile touches is unclean, a Gentile can be violated as long as they are at least 3 years of age, and the Jews will each have 12,000 slaves, is counter-racist and promoting global love?

No. But the talmudic and post-talmudic stuff was written back in times where gentiles were either wild blod-thirsty beast, or learned clergy getting the masses to pogrom on other faiths.

And you kow what? I'm getting off my horse.

I'm stopping shit talk. I just got caught in that whirlpool by the usual arselochs, so I felt it necessary to break down their nonsense by talking the facts.

I don't know why it is boring? Maybe you call "boring" anyone that tries to go deeper than superficial arguing and propaganda. I love peace, hate lies, and basically on this site there is too much lies about "the Jews".

The attackers stop first, then me.

The attackers stop first, then me?

Universal flaw in mankind.

Think about it.

Get a life

I tried that once, it didn't work out.

BTT

So we demonstrated that all accusations of racism, "national religion" and the rest of poisonous crap lesser religions needed to protect themselves (and keep their followers), don't hold. Lies don't have a foot.

Thus: Jews accept converts, but they don't look for them: the gentiles already are saved with their own 7 noahide laws. While other religions need converts so badly, they even come to forced conversions.

So, the well-spread idea, or rather "feeling" supported by rumors, is purely an effect of antisemitism. If people are ready to accept rumors, they are giving into it. Then, they are called passive antisemites since they just accept noises.

Well, the tarishing of arguments and the heightening of personal attacks on this thread proved, that there is not that much to add, except that people with an agenda won't argue on-topic, they will do all kinds of gossip:

"don't listen to this guy, he posts nonsense, etc." (Aphelion Corona in substance)

But never on topic since there is nothing real in the accusations.

So, Judaism is washed from many imaginary blemishes.

Wow finally someone to support me. Urbnthone stop posting complex visualization rituals when no one asked you for them. Stop trying to show off.

You showed ignorance in your other posts, just by having doubt on who Crowley really is. Now, if you really recieved the call you will found your way one day, but I doubt you did.

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

Now AC, if you have more than gossip, you can prove me wrong. Please do so. If not, go back to the womb and learn.

*Am Hooretz! Is begging for sources*

Do you just pretend? Many dumb missionaries also know Hebrew - or think they know the holy tongue of the Kabalah while all they know is a few math operations, ice-cold speculations of some sorts.

Or,

Do you think real information can be dangerous to publish? As is well-known, tradition is like an oven that can kosherize even a clay vessel by the power of fire, but if the vessel is not intended - not ready or trained, too full of it -, it may just burst by liberating its dirt. Tradition has it, that one who reveals to the unworthy is causing terror in the upper realm. But hardware Kabalah purity meditations never left the circle of initiates, none can ever grasp their meaning unless sincere and committed.

- Would a yogi forbid the teaching of yoga in fear of some kali worshippers using them for the wrong purpose?

- Tammuz!

Back to topic: the jewish tradition is offering any human the privilege of initiation. When you are drawn to Kabalah, then you have to know that gossip is considered by law as spilling blood. And anyone with blood on their hands will not enter the temple of God. King David was denied the building of the universal temple in Jerusalem, because he had waged wars, spilled blood. Solomoh his son built it with Hiram.





get a life

quote:Originally posted by UrbnTbone:

Originally posted by NChSh:

I just checked out your links and...

NO INFORMATION AT ALL IS AVAILABLE WITHOUT PAYING? Go post somewhere else, asshole!!! Wow! Got bitten by the Nchsh!

Gosh, was just showing the notion of universal faith and brotherhood is totally in accordance with Judaism, cos' there are fuckers who pretend the opposite. Judaism is universal. Antisemitism can't accept that truth, they are always trying to show Jews are racist, their religion as a stupid cast system. Destroy the jews yes...





destroy the jews mabey but they just keep cumin back evil parisites

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

I thought it was pretty obvious myself, since one doesn't have to be a Jew to be righteous in G-d's eyes.

exactally why i'm not a jew.. but kikey ur qoten urself isnt hat a little wierd?

quote:Originally posted by Ze:

Wow finally someone to support me. Urbnthone stop posting complex visualization rituals when no one asked you for them. Stop trying to show off. Well I have to stop showing off. Thanks for the constructive remark. As of ignorance, true too. (Was I modest enough?)

About the visualz, they are nothing compicated, many ignorant Jews do them every morning at the bath, b4 davenen. Even without a clue of their deep meaning, they are good for the soul(well it depends whet your soul is made of...)

Note to my friends on the forums: this kind of thread is purely functional, I know it's not positive, but there's gotta be one to do the cleaning job...

Ze, thank you for being an assle, we need more.



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