is it really serious ?? BULLSHIT !! christianity is by far the most widespread joke on the planet, it even beats 'why did the chicken cross the road ??' but seen as i have fucked up ideas, ill share them with u all.

First of all, i'd would like to state the lack of common sense and logic in the whole christian joke. PS : i dont know much about religion so i could be wrong.

- if god created humans to his images, why wont he let us see him ??

- who created god ??

- what was before god ??

- if he has unlimited power and goodness, why does evil exist ??

- that faggot let his own son die !!

- the virgin mary could never have givin birth with an intact hymen.

- if souls cant be destroyed but are created during conception, doesnt that make heaven ( and hell ) a bit crowded ??

- one of my favourites : jesus was born before 0 BC

- the bible was written fuckloads after jesus died, by some idiots who didnt know what they were on about.

- the people of the church are mean assholes : burning witches, cutting little kids balls off, priest not allowed sex so they become mean pedophiles which altar boys, telling other people how to lives their lives, etc. (u get the point)

- bitching about how much their religion kick ass when talking to non-believers.

- mass was being read in latin, no-one speaks that shit anymore !! the priest could be going over his shopping list for all we know.

- churches are fucking impossible to build, so why bother when faith is more valuable to non-material entities.

- an avengeful god. god 'forgives' u but u still go suck someone's ass in hell because u smoked some pot once in your life.

- the spiritual leader of the chirstian faith ( i find that so funny, faith, santa is more real ) takes more medication than any hospital, or nearly.

- they have their own country, i just plain dont get this, but its got to be bad some way.

- crusades. a nice way of saying 'kill anyone smart enough to see this is a scam'.

- back to churches, holy water is pretty funny. whats so special about it ??

- jesus was a jew !!! the most famous dude in the whole thing is a money-greedy scummy bastard who died in his thirties, TWICE !! ( antisemitic i know, but hey, thats freedom of speech for u ).

- the religion has changed so many times according to the outside world, peer pressure i call it. oh no, darwin is right. well then god caused evolution to happen. gee, thats conveniant.

- and to top it all off, a funny one i just thought of : we refer to all priests as 'father', several priests therefore several dads, so they're gay. i think i explained it a bit too much so that americans can still claim they understand a bit of what im saying http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

wow, it feels good to get all that out. but im going to explain my version of how the christian concept should be, from a more logic point of view.

god is evil and the devil is good. smacks u in the head huh ?? what they do is they fight over who mankind will have more faith and confidence in. as the devil is obviously nicer, he gives/shares power or give u what u want in exchange which is better than remaining a disciple for all eternity, he doesnt bitch like a dumb shit when u try out the things life has to offer (sex, drugs, and any meanass opinions). and in your mind, people prefer warmth to cold, as in hell for slower than average retards. so basically god has tricked the devil by pretending to be the opposite. but anyway, if its not like the way i just described it then it all fake.

i sure hope people like reading this and tell me how much god is a bitch too and i dont want any whining from people saying im going to hell for this.

enjoy.

Wineblood64.

quote:Originally posted by Wineblood64:



First of all, i'd would like to state the lack of common sense and logic in the whole christian joke. PS : i dont know much about religion so i could be wrong.

- if god created humans to his images, why wont he let us see him ??

- who created god ??

- what was before god ??

- if he has unlimited power and goodness, why does evil exist ??

- that faggot let his own son die !!

- the virgin mary could never have givin birth with an intact hymen.

- if souls cant be destroyed but are created during conception, doesnt that make heaven ( and hell ) a bit crowded ??

- one of my favourites : jesus was born before 0 BC

- the bible was written fuckloads after jesus died, by some idiots who didnt know what they were on about.

- the people of the church are mean assholes : burning witches, cutting little kids balls off, priest not allowed sex so they become mean pedophiles which altar boys, telling other people how to lives their lives, etc. (u get the point)

- bitching about how much their religion kick ass when talking to non-believers.

- mass was being read in latin, no-one speaks that shit anymore !! the priest could be going over his shopping list for all we know.

- churches are fucking impossible to build, so why bother when faith is more valuable to non-material entities.

- an avengeful god. god 'forgives' u but u still go suck someone's ass in hell because u smoked some pot once in your life.

- the spiritual leader of the chirstian faith ( i find that so funny, faith, santa is more real ) takes more medication than any hospital, or nearly.

- they have their own country, i just plain dont get this, but its got to be bad some way.

- crusades. a nice way of saying 'kill anyone smart enough to see this is a scam'.

- back to churches, holy water is pretty funny. whats so special about it ??

- jesus was a jew !!! the most famous dude in the whole thing is a money-greedy scummy bastard who died in his thirties, TWICE !! ( antisemitic i know, but hey, thats freedom of speech for u ).

- the religion has changed so many times according to the outside world, peer pressure i call it. oh no, darwin is right. well then god caused evolution to happen. gee, thats conveniant.

- and to top it all off, a funny one i just thought of : we refer to all priests as 'father', several priests therefore several dads, so they're gay. i think i explained it a bit too much so that americans can still claim they understand a bit of what im saying http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

wow, it feels good to get all that out. but im going to explain my version of how the christian concept should be, from a more logic point of view.

god is evil and the devil is good. smacks u in the head huh ?? what they do is they fight over who mankind will have more faith and confidence in. as the devil is obviously nicer, he gives/shares power or give u what u want in exchange which is better than remaining a disciple for all eternity, he doesnt bitch like a dumb shit when u try out the things life has to offer (sex, drugs, and any meanass opinions). and in your mind, people prefer warmth to cold, as in hell for slower than average retards. so basically god has tricked the devil by pretending to be the opposite. but anyway, if its not like the way i just described it then it all fake.

i sure hope people like reading this and tell me how much god is a bitch too and i dont want any whining from people saying im going to hell for this.

enjoy.

Wineblood64.

In answer to the first 3 questions, we could not really comprehend god. God is not evil, but it isn't an angry dude like the church tries to tell you.

Evil exists because of free will, god gave us all free will, so we can do what we want. in the end, even Lucifer/Satan will be reconciled.

Jesus might have just been god himself doing all the stuff he did.

Virgin births are EXTREMELY rare, but they do happen.

Souls are created and destroyed and eternal and all that. Souls aren't created when a baby is being conceived, your soul chooses a new body during each lifetime. It's all part of some thing to evolve. Why would "heaven" if it exists, be crowded, it's not a physical place like Earth, heaven could go on to infinity. Hell it might not even exist.

BC is merely before his death.

The bible is nothing more than a collection of stories that describe a small part of the history of man.

The churches ARE mean assholes, but it is still a free will thing. God doesn't interfere with our lives.

Bitching about their religion is a belief thing, I don't have to believe the lies they spew. It's my free will.

People still use Latin, it is used in the areas of Biology and Medicine.

The heaven and hell stuff if just a bunch of bullshit to keep people in line. Hell isn't some lake of fire or anything.

The Pope is old, but Catholicism is only one part of the Christian faith. Plus he did a good job in his time.

The crusades was more crap put out by the church.

Yes jesus was a jew, but Judaism is one branch of christianity, plus it is a race of people.

So yeah, God is not evil, he does not interfere with your life. Religion itself is evil and should be blamed. It is a greedy institution like the rest of them that kept people dumb for 1000+ years. Who knows where we could be now if it wasn't for the Catholic church. We could have went to the moon in 969 AD as opposed to 1969.

This is probably one of the dumbest things I'm ever going to respond to.

- if god created humans to his images, why wont he let us see him ??

Because GOD IS NOT A PERSON. God is the essence and balance of nature. He is therefore neither anthropomorphic nor biased towards humanity.

- who created god ??

God was not created. God exists for the same reason that matter exists: to continue.

- what was before god ??

There was no "before God." Time is our perception of the world in relation to the motion of matter. Once God/Nature/Matter began to exist, "time" began.

- if he has unlimited power and goodness, why does evil exist ??

To go from a Christian standpoint, evil is the absence of good. To go from an honest standpoint, evil is necessary for "goodness" to exist.

- that faggot let his own son die !!

Jesus was God incarnate. He didn't die permanently, in case you didn't remember the story of Jesus. God obviously knew that, since not only is God in control of everything in existence, but Jesus was God to begin with.

- the virgin mary could never have givin birth with an intact hymen.

If a hymen can be broken by a 6"-or-so penis, a 7 lb. baby would have no problem.

- if souls cant be destroyed but are created during conception, doesnt that make heaven ( and hell ) a bit crowded ??

Assuming, of course, that (A) souls have mass, (B) Heaven and Hell follow the same physics and earth, and (C) it isn't a fucking metaphor to begin with.

- one of my favourites : jesus was born before 0 BC

The Before Christ/Anno Domini standard of time was not invented immediately upon Jesus's birth.

- the bible was written fuckloads after jesus died, by some idiots who didnt know what they were on about.

So is 90% of history.

- the people of the church are mean assholes : burning witches, cutting little kids balls off, priest not allowed sex so they become mean pedophiles which altar boys, telling other people how to lives their lives, etc. (u get the point)

A) different sects of Christianity have different "churches:" witch burnings were Puritanical. I've never heard anything about anyone castrating little children. Priests become priests by choice; they can leave when they want to. I'm a virgin by choice; I have no desire to molest little innocent children. It's a personal psychic function. And telling people how to run their lives is the purpose of a religion.

- bitching about how much their religion kick ass when talking to non-believers.

When you believe the way you found is the true way to salvation which has had fantastic results on your self esteem, you'd want other people to know about it, too.

- mass was being read in latin, no-one speaks that shit anymore !! the priest could be going over his shopping list for all we know.

I think Martin Luther had that complaint back in the 16th century. He did something about it, though. Besides, the tradition of the Church since the Holy Roman Empire was to speak the tongue of Rome - Latin. I think it's more spiritual and esoteric to hear the word of a God in an unfamiliar language. Of course, once it is translated, now you have the weapon of mistranslation.

- churches are fucking impossible to build, so why bother when faith is more valuable to non-material entities.

Apparently, it's very possible.

- an avengeful god. god 'forgives' u but u still go suck someone's ass in hell because u smoked some pot once in your life.

No.

- the spiritual leader of the chirstian faith ( i find that so funny, faith, santa is more real ) takes more medication than any hospital, or nearly.

Because he's dying.

- they have their own country, i just plain dont get this, but its got to be bad some way.

When you find out why, then you can complain about it.

- crusades. a nice way of saying 'kill anyone smart enough to see this is a scam'.

Or a determined way of saying, "We want to sanctify the holy land."

- back to churches, holy water is pretty funny. whats so special about it ??

Its symbolic meaning.

- jesus was a jew !!! the most famous dude in the whole thing is a money-greedy scummy bastard who died in his thirties, TWICE !! ( antisemitic i know, but hey, thats freedom of speech for u ).

He didn't die a second time. He just ascended into heaven. Besides, religions are always ethnically oriented. How many Vikings would've taken Paganism seriously if Wotan was a Negro?

- the religion has changed so many times according to the outside world, peer pressure i call it. oh no, darwin is right. well then god caused evolution to happen. gee, thats conveniant.

Inconsisten word patterns are a symptom of schizophrenia.

- and to top it all off, a funny one i just thought of : we refer to all priests as 'father', several priests therefore several dads, so they're gay. i think i explained it a bit too much so that americans can still claim they understand a bit of what im saying http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

I understand perfectly; you just don't have an ounce of education behind it. "Father" is a term of respect. And speaking of fathers, based on what you expressed about your lack of faith, I can safely guess your father was never around when you were a kid.



quote:Originally posted by Wineblood64:

god is evil and the devil is good. smacks u in the head huh ?? what they do is they fight over who mankind will have more faith and confidence in. as the devil is obviously nicer, he gives/shares power or give u what u want in exchange which is better than remaining a disciple for all eternity, he doesnt bitch like a dumb shit when u try out the things life has to offer (sex, drugs, and any meanass opinions). and in your mind, people prefer warmth to cold, as in hell for slower than average retards. so basically god has tricked the devil by pretending to be the opposite. but anyway, if its not like the way i just described it then it all fake.

i sure hope people like reading this and tell me how much god is a bitch too and i dont want any whining from people saying im going to hell for this.

enjoy.

Wineblood64.

Except for the whole lakes-of-burning-tar-vermin-and-ice, stuff-you-in-a-hole-in-the-ground-face-first-and-set-your-legs-on-fire, turn-you-into-a-tree thing Dante and Virgil noticed on their cruise through Hell, it seems like a nice place.

quote:Originally posted by DarkFire47:

In answer to the first 3 questions, we could not really comprehend god. God is not evil, but it isn't an angry dude like the church tries to tell you.

Evil exists because of free will, god gave us all free will, so we can do what we want. in the end, even Lucifer/Satan will be reconciled.

Jesus might have just been god himself doing all the stuff he did.

Virgin births are EXTREMELY rare, but they do happen.

Souls are created and destroyed and eternal and all that. Souls aren't created when a baby is being conceived, your soul chooses a new body during each lifetime. It's all part of some thing to evolve. Why would "heaven" if it exists, be crowded, it's not a physical place like Earth, heaven could go on to infinity. Hell it might not even exist.

BC is merely before his death.

The bible is nothing more than a collection of stories that describe a small part of the history of man.

The churches ARE mean assholes, but it is still a free will thing. God doesn't interfere with our lives.

Bitching about their religion is a belief thing, I don't have to believe the lies they spew. It's my free will.

People still use Latin, it is used in the areas of Biology and Medicine.

The heaven and hell stuff if just a bunch of bullshit to keep people in line. Hell isn't some lake of fire or anything.

The Pope is old, but Catholicism is only one part of the Christian faith. Plus he did a good job in his time.

The crusades was more crap put out by the church.

Yes jesus was a jew, but Judaism is one branch of christianity, plus it is a race of people.

So yeah, God is not evil, he does not interfere with your life. Religion itself is evil and should be blamed. It is a greedy institution like the rest of them that kept people dumb for 1000+ years. Who knows where we could be now if it wasn't for the Catholic church. We could have went to the moon in 969 AD as opposed to 1969.



Correstions:

1) Christianity is a sect of Judaism, not the other way around.

2) Religion is created, as Nietzsche said, when humanity is split in half, with one half idolized, and the other demonized. Religion is therefore not evil, but that which separates good from evil.

If god created everything then why did he created AIDS, cancer, terrorism? If god protects all that are good.. then why do the innocent die?

quote:If god created everything then why did he created AIDS, cancer, terrorism? If god protects all that are good.. then why do the innocent die?

I don't know about diseses but terrorism? people make their own choices whether it be to blow up buildings or mow their lawn. heres my theory on why the innocent die when people die if they are resentful against someone for some other reason then I think they get their revenge (from beyond the grave OOooooOOoo). so lets say the person who the dead guy is resentful against dies. then the dead resentful guy cant do much against him now that he doesnt have a phisical body anymore but he can attack the desendants of the guy hes resentful against. so this is how little timmy breaks his leg.

(pretty cool huh pulled that one right out of my hat)