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eBlip
2003-08-22, 08:11
It is useless filling the mind with the thoughts and feelings of others.

mereley watching others eating does not satisfy our own hunger...

we must eat for ourselves.

I am Weasel
2003-08-22, 13:18
That's true, but the thoughts of others can inspire us, correct us and show us where to go next. They do, however, need to be used only as a foundation for one's own thoughts.

jamasterc
2003-08-22, 16:55
TRUE

Armed&Angry
2003-08-23, 04:01
Your conception of the mind is blinded by mysticism. It's a machine, a machine with rules, and you can't simply alter it as you please.

eBlip
2003-08-23, 05:42
quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Your conception of the mind is blinded by mysticism. It's a machine, a machine with rules, and you can't simply alter it as you please.

YOUVE OBVIOUSLY SOAKED UP ALL THE STUFF OF OTHERS ....

ITS NOW TIME YOU ATE FOR YOURSELF.

YOU ARE BLINDED BY SCIENCE.

BE BLINDED NEITHER BY MYSTICISM NOR SCIENCE.

SEE FOR YOURSELF....DONT BE AFRAID...SEE ENTIRELY FOR YOURSELF....

YOU ARE AN EDUCATED INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN NOW COME TO HIS OWN CONCLUSIONS...

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Kikey_Kikeowitz
2003-08-23, 06:19
She blinded me with science...

eBlip
2003-08-23, 10:48
quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

She blinded me with science...

what was that tune...?

she blinded me with science ,

she blinded me with science,

da da da da da daaaaaaaaa da da...

lahh lahh lah lah lah lah laaaahhh.

ROFL... (rolling on the floor laughing)



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Armed&Angry
2003-08-23, 18:59
quote:Originally posted by eBlip:

YOU ARE AN EDUCATED INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN NOW COME TO HIS OWN CONCLUSIONS...

Except that everyone is a product of outside influences, from evolution to culture to simple brain chemistry. You're an input/output machine. If there's a universal truth out there other than the basic laws of physics, prove it. If you can, well, then I'm afraid you live in the blind world of perceived epiphany. You might find it enjoyable, but I vastly prefer logic, reason, and empiricism as guides to the proper life.

eBlip
2003-08-23, 21:04
quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Except that everyone is a product of outside influences, from evolution to culture to simple brain chemistry. You're an input/output machine. If there's a universal truth out there other than the basic laws of physics, prove it. If you can, well, then I'm afraid you live in the blind world of perceived epiphany. You might find it enjoyable, but I vastly prefer logic, reason, and empiricism as guides to the proper life.



im sorry to have to say this....but i am a master of reading into people given minimum information....

oh i'm not saying i know everything about you but i am confident i have worked some things out.....some of the things i say may affect you deeply...but only you will realise that i am exceptionally accurate in my brief assesment....and if you eventually eat humble pie .....i will explain in great detail how i logically come to my conclusions....

you are of average intellect...yet strive to be seen as one of higher intellect.....you think you are of higher intellect because your intellectual strengths are all geared in one direction....whereas most people spread their intellect.....

there is very little real happiness in your life....you work in what you think is the right environment for your talents....

yet for some reason .....your peers at work dont seem to appreciate your enthusiasm and true ability without you lets say forcing your achievements into your superiors vision....(in the nicest possible way)

you have no children...and you say you dont want any..

if there is a woman in your life, she has to be either extremely timid....or the only other option is that you rant and rave about loads of things....yet for some reason ....her word you will find is always the final word....even though you make out that you both made the decisions......

you are extremely competitive and have very few friends......you may say ...most people are arseholes and thats the reason for your lack of deep friendship..

you depend on only one other person in your life ....and to that person you express sincere loyalty...that person also has a good understanding of the real you.

generally you take great pleasure in other peoples misfortunes ....

you havent got the mental capacity to look out of the box you unknowingly got trapped in....

you are not even slightly good looking...and contrary to your nickname ...you are a coward.....and you know this..

but there is a way out .....not a mystical way...a simple way out ....and you can start living a much more fruitful life....without losing your love of logic etc....

you are a good man who just got a bit lost....

the above statement is not about finding religion or something like that its about something far closer to home......

please do not take offence by what i have said...even though i have pointed out your weaknesses....its in the hope that it will benefit you in the end.....

i am your friend.....

Mental Detour
2003-08-24, 17:21
What is the point in eating for yourself If your alone at the dinner table.

eBlip
2003-08-26, 07:55
well armed and angry?

Armed&Angry
2003-08-26, 19:37
Okay, what the fuck was that? That's ridiculous, as are you. No, you do not have a talent for reading people.

- I seem to be of average intellect? If your definition of "intellect" is "the ability to rip off quasi-buddhist drivel and feign enlightenment without having any reason to believe your correct," then I'd have to agree. Personally, I define intellect as the ability to take the facts of the situation, look at them in several different ways, and come to an intellectually defensible conclusion that accounts for all available data. I'm certainly not the best at this, but I'm pretty good. And given this kind of ad hominem bullshit, I'm better at it than you.

- My life is pretty happy, actually. I just started college, my classes are intellectually challenging and fulfilling, and I've met some really great people. A steady diet of reading keeps my brain full of material for thought. I'd say I'm doing pretty good.

- I don't have any "peers at work" at the moment - having just moved, I'm currently unemployed. However, at my old job, the rest of the staff seemed to enjoy my presence. Look, it's not like I discuss politics at work. I'm actually a pretty good humored guy when I'm not being psychoanalyzed by bitchy neo-manicheans with superiority complexes.

- Again, having just moved, I'm no longer with my girlfriend. However, she was not "timid" by any means, and was quite a demand on my time and patience. This is primarily why we broke up. And you're right, I don't have children, and I don't want any. Why? Because I'm an 18-year-old unemployed college student living in a dormitory, you stupid shit. Oh, wait, your cheesy analysis didn't reveal that? Damnedest thing.

- And this "no friends" shit is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I personally believe that EVERYBODY is my friend, until they do something to prove themselves otherwise. Yes, people are assholes sometimes, myself included. That's human nature, and you gotta take the good with the bad.

- I'm extremely competitive in matters pertaining to my main talents - writing, public speaking, and debate - but otherwise I don't particularly care.

- I don't "depend" on anybody in particular; I'd be interested to know why you think I do.

- I've never taken pleasure in someone else's misfortune, except for that rare occasion when the individual seemed to have it coming. I won't lie, Blip - I shed no tears for that priest who go murdered in prison.

- You've got some nerve speaking to me of "mental capacity." Copping some eastern mysticism doesn't make you a fucking genius. It makes you a blind moron who can't see the world as it is.

- I'm a coward? Where the fuck do you get off with a remark like that? What reason do you have to believe this? Why, why, why? And seriously, the remark about my looks is just silly. Have you ever seen me? No? Then is it possible you might be talking out of your ass? Hmm? Yeah?



You are, without a doubt, one of the stupidest posters I've had the displeasure of conversing with on this forum. Christ, even ChuckStone and alchemist occasionally present reasoning and proof for their claims. But not you, no sir! You've got your own agenda. How do you respond to a demand for proof? You call me ugly. Nicely done, dipshit!

You've taken your entirely subjective moral system, declared it to be universally applicable, and now make a moral judgement on my very existence because I dare to think something else. If you can't defend your claims in an argument, you have to come face to face with the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you're full of shit.

You're not Freud.

You're not profound.

You don't know shit about shit.

To summarize: Shut. The fuck. Up.

somerlost
2003-08-26, 22:33
Not being mindful of the thoughts of others is what gets horny guys sent to prison for rape. "She was drinking in the bar wearing a skirt, of course she wanted to get fucked." Not giving a shit about what others think will get you killed in the wrong situation.

Now it's time for you to just think.

Armed&Angry
2003-08-26, 22:50
ONCE AGAIN, a total evasion of reasoned argument. I should think? I am thinking! Tell me why I should be thinking differently, and support that assertion with logic and reasoning, or shut the hell up.

Armed&Angry
2003-08-27, 00:53
Still waiting for your brilliant rebuttal, chuckles. Or are you too busy masturbating over how enlightened you are?

Bar room hero
2003-08-27, 01:16
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Moved.