IzzyReele
2003-08-27, 00:42
does anybody here know anything about the qabala - beyond the spiritual astral travel that seems to have incorporated it into their doctrines.
i found this site which is the best i've found so far
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2795/index.html
anyways why i'm interested, it has amazing parallels to superstring and m-theory.
"At first, the ten spheres are in the "banded" stage. The white animals with dark bands around their legs have the appearance of being or tied up, or bound together. The spheres start out in precisely this condition. Ten traits/tools all bound together in one vessel. Then, they separate and become ten distinct, autonomous spheres. This is the spotted stage (each dark spot on a white animal is completely self contained having no relationship to any other spots.) In the spotted (Hebrew: Nekudim) stage, each sphere is completely oblivious to the presence or absence of any other sphere. It's every sphere for itself."
michiu kaku in hyperspace
"The big bang, as we shall see, perhaps originated in the breakdown of the original ten-dimensional universe into a 4- and 6-dimensional universe. thus we can view the history of the big bang as the history of the breakup of ten-dimensional space and hence the breakup of previously unified symetries."
"The breaking of the vessels is typically associated with Genesis 36:31-39, wherein the Torah lists "the kings who reigned in the land of Edom before a king reigned over the Children of Israel." Eight kings are listed, one after the other. Qabalists attribute these pre-Israelite kings to the flawed vessels that broke. The qabalistic scholars also assume that Kether, Chochma, and Binah did work together, giving light as well as receiving it, and that they were not among those that shattered. But eight Kings/vessels are mentioned in Genesis 36. That adds to eleven (three vessels that did not shatter plus eight that did shatter). The solution: daath/knowledge, the so-called invisible sphere, was one of those that shattered."
here again the kether, chochma, and binah are the three shattered vessels, length, width, and depth our spatial 3-dimensional universe expanding outwards toward infinity, with an invisible one daath/knowledge. to know something something must be, time.
this also mentions that with this hidden one there are 11....
"There is still a third possibility for the M in M-theory. One of the islands that was found on the M-theory planet corresponds to a theory that lives not in 10 but in 11 dimensions. This seems to be telling us that M-theory should be viewed as an 11 dimensional theory that looks 10 dimensional at some points in its space of parameters. Such a theory could have as a fundamental object a Membrane, as opposed to a string. Like a drinking straw seen at a distance, the membranes would look like strings when we curl the 11th dimension into a small circle. "
from http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html
back to qabala and the actual book of zohar
"The source of the sea is one. A current issues from it... The source is one and the current makes two. Next, it makes a great basin, like a channel dug in the earth, which is filled by the waters which emanate from the source. It is this basin which we know as `Sea': this is the third factor involved. The large basin is split up into seven channels, which are like so many long tubes... thus the waters are conveyed from the sea into these seven channels. The source, the current, the sea, and the seven channels form together the number ten... It is thus that the Cause of Causes has brought forth the ten sefirot..."
a point(source of the sea) becomes line(river) then achieves depth(basin),
but then the author of the page says this...
"This serves as one more reminder of how difficult it can be to wrap qabala up neatly into one package, and more importantly, of the fact that this is mystical metaphor, not physics."
sure seems like it to me.
which makes me ask, is this schroedinger's cat?
"Under this view, we can think of Chochma as, perhaps, a camera aperture, or the retina of an eye. When the aperture is fully open, the maximum amount of light moves through the lens. This is like the state of Ayn SPh AVR, where all potential possibilities exist and can shine through. Kether is the will to narrow the aperture. In Chochma, we actually do narrow the aperture. As the opening shrinks, some of the light (i.e., some of the potential imaginings) is screened out. Eventually, the aperture narrows to a point at which the opening is so narrow, only a small portion of the infinite light can shine through; put another way, only one of the infinite pool of imaginings can shine through. This view of Chochma is compatible with what we saw in Tomer Devorah. In spreading and transmitting wisdom, we must take care not to pass on more than others can receive. Chochma, viewed as a narrowing aperture, does just this; it prevents us from being overwhelmed by too many possibilities and instead, narrows things down to a single probability that we can cope with."
"Described this way the CI is mixture of classical physics (deterministic evolution of the wave function) and a mysterious new element-a special kind of collapse of a superposition of states of the wave function at the point of measurement. This last kind of discontinuous evolution is called often the measurement problem."
http://donavanhall.net/physics/quantum/copenhagen.shtml
i found this site which is the best i've found so far
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2795/index.html
anyways why i'm interested, it has amazing parallels to superstring and m-theory.
"At first, the ten spheres are in the "banded" stage. The white animals with dark bands around their legs have the appearance of being or tied up, or bound together. The spheres start out in precisely this condition. Ten traits/tools all bound together in one vessel. Then, they separate and become ten distinct, autonomous spheres. This is the spotted stage (each dark spot on a white animal is completely self contained having no relationship to any other spots.) In the spotted (Hebrew: Nekudim) stage, each sphere is completely oblivious to the presence or absence of any other sphere. It's every sphere for itself."
michiu kaku in hyperspace
"The big bang, as we shall see, perhaps originated in the breakdown of the original ten-dimensional universe into a 4- and 6-dimensional universe. thus we can view the history of the big bang as the history of the breakup of ten-dimensional space and hence the breakup of previously unified symetries."
"The breaking of the vessels is typically associated with Genesis 36:31-39, wherein the Torah lists "the kings who reigned in the land of Edom before a king reigned over the Children of Israel." Eight kings are listed, one after the other. Qabalists attribute these pre-Israelite kings to the flawed vessels that broke. The qabalistic scholars also assume that Kether, Chochma, and Binah did work together, giving light as well as receiving it, and that they were not among those that shattered. But eight Kings/vessels are mentioned in Genesis 36. That adds to eleven (three vessels that did not shatter plus eight that did shatter). The solution: daath/knowledge, the so-called invisible sphere, was one of those that shattered."
here again the kether, chochma, and binah are the three shattered vessels, length, width, and depth our spatial 3-dimensional universe expanding outwards toward infinity, with an invisible one daath/knowledge. to know something something must be, time.
this also mentions that with this hidden one there are 11....
"There is still a third possibility for the M in M-theory. One of the islands that was found on the M-theory planet corresponds to a theory that lives not in 10 but in 11 dimensions. This seems to be telling us that M-theory should be viewed as an 11 dimensional theory that looks 10 dimensional at some points in its space of parameters. Such a theory could have as a fundamental object a Membrane, as opposed to a string. Like a drinking straw seen at a distance, the membranes would look like strings when we curl the 11th dimension into a small circle. "
from http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html
back to qabala and the actual book of zohar
"The source of the sea is one. A current issues from it... The source is one and the current makes two. Next, it makes a great basin, like a channel dug in the earth, which is filled by the waters which emanate from the source. It is this basin which we know as `Sea': this is the third factor involved. The large basin is split up into seven channels, which are like so many long tubes... thus the waters are conveyed from the sea into these seven channels. The source, the current, the sea, and the seven channels form together the number ten... It is thus that the Cause of Causes has brought forth the ten sefirot..."
a point(source of the sea) becomes line(river) then achieves depth(basin),
but then the author of the page says this...
"This serves as one more reminder of how difficult it can be to wrap qabala up neatly into one package, and more importantly, of the fact that this is mystical metaphor, not physics."
sure seems like it to me.
which makes me ask, is this schroedinger's cat?
"Under this view, we can think of Chochma as, perhaps, a camera aperture, or the retina of an eye. When the aperture is fully open, the maximum amount of light moves through the lens. This is like the state of Ayn SPh AVR, where all potential possibilities exist and can shine through. Kether is the will to narrow the aperture. In Chochma, we actually do narrow the aperture. As the opening shrinks, some of the light (i.e., some of the potential imaginings) is screened out. Eventually, the aperture narrows to a point at which the opening is so narrow, only a small portion of the infinite light can shine through; put another way, only one of the infinite pool of imaginings can shine through. This view of Chochma is compatible with what we saw in Tomer Devorah. In spreading and transmitting wisdom, we must take care not to pass on more than others can receive. Chochma, viewed as a narrowing aperture, does just this; it prevents us from being overwhelmed by too many possibilities and instead, narrows things down to a single probability that we can cope with."
"Described this way the CI is mixture of classical physics (deterministic evolution of the wave function) and a mysterious new element-a special kind of collapse of a superposition of states of the wave function at the point of measurement. This last kind of discontinuous evolution is called often the measurement problem."
http://donavanhall.net/physics/quantum/copenhagen.shtml