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bkc
2003-09-17, 17:37
There are two ways to believe. One is right and one is wrong. The one that is wrong allows for you to believe in other things also being right. The one that is right does not allow for any other beliefs.

The one that is right says that there is only one belief that is true. The one that is wrong says there is more than one thing that is true.

The one that is right says all other beliefs are partially true and partially false. The one that is wrong says that there are other beliefs that are wholly true.

All other beliefs fall into one or the other of these two beliefs. This is inescapable and unavoidable. If you try to deny that it is unavoidable, then you have chosen the belief that more than one thing is true.

Simply because if you are asked the question, "Is it unavoidable?", you would answer, "Yes", thereby demonstrating that you think that this question has only one answer, or is wholly true, and therefore you don't subscribe to the to the idea "...that there is only one belief that is true."

All questions are eventually answered by the right belief. They aren't answered immediately, of course, since that would also violate the right belief.

Why do I say that? Because then it would be required to answer questions about time with only one answer, since the word "immediately" concerns time.

All belief systems can be looked at as to if they have the wrong or right belief. I know this sounds intolerant, but you will see that it isn't.

Wrong belief systems include theism, atheism, Rustism, scientificism and more. Right belief systems include the right belief.

(Disclaimer: all ideas expressed, and words used above, are subject to the right belief, and accordingly may mean their opposite.)

Armed&Angry
2003-09-17, 20:19
Um, okay, so you mean... absolutely nothing? Thanks for the contribution.

*Recedes back into his cave of alcoholic curmudgeonism*

bkc
2003-09-17, 21:21
quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

Um, okay, so you mean... absolutely nothing?

Don't get your question.

Armed&Angry
2003-09-17, 23:20
(Disclaimer: all ideas expressed, and words used above, are subject to the right belief, and accordingly may mean their opposite.)

Your words, correct? So if nothing in the post has any set meaning, precisely what the fuck is your point?

bkc
2003-09-18, 00:38
quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

So if nothing in the post has any set meaning...

"...may mean their opposite."

Armed&Angry
2003-09-18, 02:47
So, there's roughly a fifty percent chance that things in your post don't mean what they say they mean? Look, kid, it's a lot easier for everybody involved if you speak in terms of fact. This "one hand clapping" crap isn't really my gig.

bkc
2003-09-18, 03:32
The statement added at the end of the openening post about opposites was more of an after thought. I would suggest taking the post as statements of fact and evaluating it in that light. If it started making some sense to you, then the afterthought, after further consideration, might seem more reasonable, but that doesn't really matter at this point.

psycho_8b
2003-09-19, 20:43
When the fuck did they start getting preachers on TOTSE?!?!

How can you people justify yourselves when you are going round telling people they are wrong?!

Fuck off and die you prick!

Fuck
2003-09-19, 20:47
There is no right or wrong.

Faithless
2003-09-19, 23:40
So in that case Fuck I could happily smash several nursery childrens skulls in with a crowbaw, safe in the knowledge that there is no right and wrong?

Rust
2003-09-20, 02:16
quote:So in that case Fuck I could happily smash several nursery childrens skulls in with a crowbaw, safe in the knowledge that there is no right and wrong?

There is socially accepted and un-accepted behavior.

Fuck
2003-09-20, 03:54
quote:Originally posted by Faithless:

So in that case Fuck I could happily smash several nursery childrens skulls in with a crowbaw, safe in the knowledge that there is no right and wrong?

To you, and government, society and cops that surround you, it would be wrong.

To some people it would be right.

Faithless
2003-09-20, 09:37
quote:Originally posted by Fuck:

To you, and government, society and cops that surround you, it would be wrong.

To some people it would be right.

Therefore there is a right and wrong.

bkc
2003-09-21, 19:05
quote:Originally posted by Fuck:

There is no right or wrong.

Are you right, that "there is no right or wrong"? Of course you can see that your statement self destructs, since it contradicts itself. And besides that, your statement is a statement of your faith. Faith is unavoidable.

bkc
2003-09-21, 19:13
quote:Originally posted by psycho_8b:

... you are going round telling people they are wrong?!

I'm also telling people they are right

bkc
2003-09-21, 19:47
quote:Originally posted by Faithless:

Therefore there is a right and wrong.

From the cops' point of view the example given was a wrong behavior. And it is also true that some people would think it was acceptable. In war situations many people think that this type of behavior becomes acceptable and will defend it.

Then I guess some people feel like they are always in a war situation. Like Charles Manson, possibly.

So to some people it is right, and to some people it is wrong. In that respect, everything is right, and wrong.

The idea of the topic, though, is that only one thing is completely right, and that is the idea that all other beliefs are partially true, and partially false. Even scientific "truths" and "facts".