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drake of the flame
2004-01-19, 03:49
hello, i havent posted for a while but i want to have a post area for pagan belivers, i am seeing too many jesus post(no pun) please post anything pagan here.

also while i have the chance, fire is my chosen element, and i want to know if anyone knows ANYTHING at all about paganism.

thanks.

all hail the flame!

dearestnight_falcon
2004-01-19, 07:43
yeah, i know a fair bit about paganism, there are a few of us around here. I post more on Science of the Damned though, since its the "occult" forum.

kevinboyd
2004-01-19, 16:52
too many people don't know what a pagan religion is. they think muslims are pagans. idiots.

drake of the flame
2004-01-20, 00:03
i agree most ppl dont know anything whatsoever about paganism. its sad really. um i wasnt really talking occult, but i do like that to, are u two pagans?

dearestnight_falcon
2004-01-20, 01:08
quote:Originally posted by kevinboyd:

too many people don't know what a pagan religion is. they think muslims are pagans. idiots.

Are you serious? people actually think muslims are pagans???

LOL thats pretty funny.

yeah, I am a pagan

drake of the flame
2004-01-20, 01:15
its not that ppl think muslims are pagan, lol. they just dont understand paganism(i know u knew that, just had to say it)lol., so what kinda stuff do u know about spell casting, im just wondering because i have no pagan relations or friends of any kind, so i kinda wana see what other pagans think.

dearestnight_falcon
2004-01-21, 03:53
My opinion on spellcasting, as in, say, wiccan magick, is that its probably inefficient as fuck, if not totally inefective. Every wiccan book I know of is full of "visualizing" AKA Imagining

It doesnt make sense that something like magick would be so easy. www.whywiccanssuck.com (http://www.whywiccanssuck.com) has a pretty interesting section on so called "practical magick".

You could also try older stuff, read some of Aleister Crowley's books, key of solomon, golden dawn, if your interested in more ceremonial magick.

EDIT: i just thought i should put in the link to that particular part of the site. http://www.whywiccanssuck.com/learn0.html

[This message has been edited by dearestnight_falcon (edited 01-21-2004).]

Sol463
2004-01-21, 07:32
Speaking of Wiccan spells, I remember watching this Discovery channel special on some Wiccans... One of them was outside waving a broom in the air, saying how she was going to make it rain. The thing is, that it was already stormy outside. She said sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

Dark_Magneto
2004-01-21, 09:12
quote:Originally posted by Sol463:

Speaking of Wiccan spells, I remember watching this Discovery channel special on some Wiccans... One of them was outside waving a broom in the air, saying how she was going to make it rain. The thing is, that it was already stormy outside. She said sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.



Confirmation bias (http://www.skepdic.com/confirmbias.html)

Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one's beliefs. For example, if you believe that during a full moon there is an increase in admissions to the emergency room where you work, you will take notice of admissions during a full moon, but be inattentive to the moon when admissions occur during other nights of the month. A tendency to do this over time unjustifiably strengthens your belief in the relationship between the full moon and accidents and other lunar effects.

LostCause
2004-01-21, 11:46
Muslims aren't considered pagans, but - like Jews - they are considered heathens. The words "pagan" and "heathen" are often mixed up by stupid people.

Anyways, I - for one - am a big fan of paganism in almost all forms. Especially Druid and Wiccan paganism as I'm a "casual" practitioner of Wiccanism.

I, however, actually believe (still loosely) in Judaism, which I was raised with. But, I've found that all religions but pagan religions seem to have good goals but like purpose, whereas pagan religions seem to be all about purpose and no goal.

So, I've found that by combining the goals of Judaism with the purpose of Wiccanism to be very well suitable for me.

What I mean is, most religions are all about the end, which pagan religions are all about the current and I think that, while it's important to achieve a satisfactory ending, we should be celebrating the present.

Cheers,

Lost

VeneFrigus
2004-01-23, 23:19
Heathenism is just the germanic term for pagan. They're the same. "One who lies down in the heather" and "denizen of a small village." Both meaning "ignorant country-person."