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W 40oz2Freedom W
2004-02-14, 03:48
I was expecting to see this thread but i didnt so i thought i'd make it myself, so yeah.
OK, I am an Atheist, i hate pretty much every religion, i mean i still have respect for them but i just dont like them mainly because of how the "higher" official of the religion seems to think he owns the world, such as the beloved pope, i cant remember who said it so i cant give a proper site but heres a good quote, "I have just as much authority as the pope....i just dont have as many followers.". But no matter how much we hate religion theres always one that grabs our interest.
For me, i would have to pick buddhaism as the religion i respect the most. The fact that gods arent nessicarily (sp?) worshipped is, what i belive makes a good religion. Also the religion is more about enlightening your life rather than trying to do everything right in this life and worrying about where your gonna go in your afterlife is what i like. I made that comment of Buddhists not worshipping any gods, i'm not exactly sure about that, i remember reading something and it made a reference to Hinduist gods, as far as if Buddhists worship them i'm not sure, i'd have to look up on it. But to some it up, Buddhism is the religion i respect the most. Later
Hexadecimal
2004-02-14, 04:10
I don't respect a single religion as they have no way to earn my respect. I respect followers of some religions though, but it has nothing to do with their beliefs.
SupaAznPirate
2004-02-14, 06:15
Taoism. The world will balance it self out. the best thing we can do is to leave the material world and become one in a different reality.
Craftian
2004-02-14, 07:16
The Cthulhu cult is the only group that gets my respect.
Ia ftaghn!
Technomancer
2004-02-14, 18:08
i respect many religions to a point, all religions are based on ideals on how people should live their life and many of these ideals would help for the betterment of humanity if everyone would acually listen to what their religions preach. sadly many religions take it way too far, often not intentionally and this is why i have yet to find the one that suits me. so i guess you could call me an idealist, lol
but to answer you question, Christianity i respect, also to a point, it has many ideals one should live by, as does Confusism, taoism and buddhism, now i have yet to read the koran but i'm pretty sure it'll probably have ideals worth living with as long as you don't take it to serously, like a few do
but if i ever find myself in prison maybe i'll take a look, lol
but one you gotta respect was the Peoples Temple, that jim jones was so crazy, lol jk
-Technomancer
LostCause
2004-02-14, 23:02
I need a lot of personal space, physically, mentally, and spiritually. I know a lot of other people have different levels of personal space, but I just try to give as much space to everyone else as I'd like for myself. So, I never try to force my opinions or beliefs on anyone or try to degrade anothers opinions of beliefs.
So, by those definitions, I respect all beliefs. Especially, since that's all they really are: beliefs. What another person believes has absolutely no effect on what I believe or even what is true. So, there's never any reason to feel offended by them.
Cheers,
Lost
AliensExist
2004-02-15, 10:34
buddism
theBishop
2004-02-16, 02:33
Mormonism, sure it's pretty much a cult, and it's founder was proven to be a liar, but those temples are friggin' awesome, but you or I will *never* be inside of them because we're not mormons.
homosuperior
2004-02-16, 06:20
quote:Originally posted by W 40oz2Freedom W:
I was expecting to see this thread but i didnt so i thought i'd make it myself, so yeah.
OK, I am an Atheist, i hate pretty much every religion, i mean i still have respect for them but i just dont like them mainly because of how the "higher" official of the religion seems to think he owns the world, such as the beloved pope, i cant remember who said it so i cant give a proper site but heres a good quote, "I have just as much authority as the pope....i just dont have as many followers.". But no matter how much we hate religion theres always one that grabs our interest.
For me, i would have to pick buddhaism as the religion i respect the most. The fact that gods arent nessicarily (sp?) worshipped is, what i belive makes a good religion. Also the religion is more about enlightening your life rather than trying to do everything right in this life and worrying about where your gonna go in your afterlife is what i like. I made that comment of Buddhists not worshipping any gods, i'm not exactly sure about that, i remember reading something and it made a reference to Hinduist gods, as far as if Buddhists worship them i'm not sure, i'd have to look up on it. But to some it up, Buddhism is the religion i respect the most. Later
I'm the same as you..good post!
Phrensied Rabbits
2004-02-16, 14:45
Any of the Philosophical ones.
Taoism, Buddhism (NOT HINDUISM!), etc.
Any of the ones that claim to be the decendants of God, ie. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormon...(ism?), etc.
are all a load of crap.
Any discussion?
homosuperior
2004-02-17, 10:52
quote:Originally posted by Phrensied Rabbits:
Any of the Philosophical ones.
Taoism, Buddhism (NOT HINDUISM!), etc.
Any of the ones that claim to be the decendants of God, ie. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormon...(ism?), etc.
are all a load of crap.
Any discussion?
Yeah I agree...you can even include Jainism in that list as it is similar to Buddhism.
But I hate the way Buddhism evolved as now it has mahayan (a branch)which calls itself the greater vehicle. It's a more liberal religion beleiving there is a God! and what audacity they had to call hinayan (a more conservative branch and also based directly on Buddha's teachings) a lesser vehicle.
I like the way Hinayan says that there is no God and no such thing as metaphysics..that's why it's my religion
Phrensied Rabbits
2004-02-17, 17:47
I aggree, the Mahayanists are basically just a mutation of Hinduism
The Theravadins are the only ones I really acknowledge as truly being Buddhist, when I talk about them in a positive way, at least.
Unfortunately, the one most carried to the West was the so-called 'Mahayanist' sect. It really put a bad mark on what could have been a great thing. Now it's hard to even find a decent piece of scripture because it's always translated into Hindu and then English, meaning that it picks up the Mayhayanist ideas instead of remaining in it's pure form.
By the way, on that subject, does anyone know where I can find a TiPitaka script directly translated from (fuck...I forgot the Language, it's been so long since I've discussed this...)
Edit:
Pali!, that's it.
I'd say we should start a 'You got your Mahayana in my Theravada' thread, but I don't think anybody else would be interested in it, hehehe, lmao...
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SurahAhriman
2004-02-17, 21:03
Real Buddhism doesn't have gods. Buddha was hardcore anti-deity. Taoism is respectable. And cthulhu. "My God can eat your God".
I respect any religon... as long as they don't come to my door early saturday morning trying to get me to join there cult. AKA Jehovas Witness, Mormens, and Boy Scouts.
homosuperior
2004-02-18, 09:14
Even Albert Einstein said that Buddhism was the religion which he respected and said it was a religion that even science could not bash
BluEDicE
2004-02-18, 15:25
I respect Wicca.
Mostly because, traditionaly, it's not so much a religion, as set of remedys or traditions.
I have no respect for Christianity.
Ever wonder what easter has to do with eggs and bunnys? It was originally a pagan fertility ritual.
Gammaray
2004-03-27, 18:38
Satanism. The goal of satanism is to gain power...good idea.
Hexadecimal
2004-03-27, 22:04
I don't consider buddhism, taosim, or satanism to be religions as they don't deal with the afterlife too much. Buddhism comes very close with the occasional reincarnation deal, but there's essentially no afterlife. Those three are philosophies rather than religions in my opinion, as they have no dogma.
Phrensied Rabbits
2004-03-27, 22:50
Well, I don't know anything about Satanism, but I thionk the POINT of Buddhism and Taosism are that they're philosophies. Why would you WANT needless and stupidly designed Dogma?
Hexadecimal
2004-03-28, 00:05
Satanism is essentially a selfserving philosophy. Self above all others; you strive to please yourself and become powerful. According to satanist principles, if you have the choice of you or your friend dying, you give up the liability, keeping your own life.
A very selfish philosophy with no deity.
Metalligod
2004-03-28, 01:27
quote:Originally posted by Craftian:
The Cthulhu cult is the only group that gets my respect.
Ia ftaghn!
OMFG, do ppl still believe in this?
My fav, the Raelians, however it's spelled.
The ppl responsible for the first supossed human clone. They don't bother anyone and they build their religion around science.
They're helping all of use advance in life.
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mr_pantz
2004-03-28, 02:06
buddhism.
Akhnaton's Religion of the Disk.
Traditional Buddhism.
Hinduism.
Norse and Graeco-Roman paganism.
I consider myself to be an eclectic mix of these, since they all have similar Indo-Aryan roots. I'm more specific to Norse paganism than Graeco-Roman paganism, because I can associate more closely with my Norse gods than their Greek/Roman gods.
Pantheist
Jain
Taoist
Buddhist(some)
Hermetic
Stoic
Epicurean
Hindu(some - not all!)
Essene
Gnostic Xtian
Humanist
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Phrensied Rabbits
2004-03-28, 15:25
huh? You put Stoic down as a religion?
I never really thought of it that way, hmm...
that's pretty interesting
Anyway, I've for a while wanted to find some kind of balance between traditional (Pali- Theravada) Buddhism and Norse Paganism. I can't seem to get my hands on manuscripts from either. Any help here?
I don't respect the religions. I think that they are just guide lines, for how to live.
I respect the people who believe and follow thier beliefs. The people who devote time and effort to anything, is something I have to respect.
Not the people who go to their religons and say "love everyone" and cut you off on thier way out of the parking lot.
The only thing I can really suggest concerning a link between traditional Buddhism and Norse paganism is Nordic shamanism, and I have little to no references which can help you. www.runegild.org (http://www.runegild.org)might be a good place to start some research. I doubt it would make many references to Buddhism, but breathing techniques and mantras in the rune curriculum The Nine Doors of Midgard are similar to Buddhism in terms of breathing techniques and consciousness alterations.
i didn't know raeliens are based on science,i mean thats what i believe,but i don't want to steriotype myself to the point of saying that im of any specific religion or any at all and that includes athieism.but it's cool to know that what i think which is that evrything has to do with science,that there's a religion based on it...
as i've said before in more detail in the thread "why is your religion right"--that i dont believe in the first place that any religion should exist at all.
Run Screaming
2004-03-29, 18:07
quote:Originally posted by Phrensied Rabbits:
huh? You put Stoic down as a religion?
I never really thought of it that way, hmm...
that's pretty interesting
Anyway, I've for a while wanted to find some kind of balance between traditional (Pali- Theravada) Buddhism and Norse Paganism. I can't seem to get my hands on manuscripts from either. Any help here?
You know Alexander visited India with some Greek philosophers. Read The Greeks In India. Theories that this spawned some of the Greek schools of philo. Also the Buddhist text Milindapraha is of a Hellenic king's conversion to Buddhism. Also get The Masks of Odin...
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Phrensied Rabbits
2004-03-30, 21:08
What's with people mixing up e's and i's?
I mean, they're not interchangeable!
Okay, sorry about that. Back on topic now...
Oh, and thanks for the Rune Gild link.
not exactly the kind of Buddhism I had in mind, I'm not big on the tantric stuff, but it's damn close! thanks, man.
I would still rather have seperate manuscripts on both and find my own balance, but I can't seem to find any collections of texts on either. I'll keep looking, I guess. If anybody knows where to find any, can you tell me?
Okay, I've just read through some of that and apparently it's just a bunch of wannabe Goths looking for a way to make themselves feel special...
Thanks for the attempt, though.
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