chirstianity is a horrible religion(not like there really is a good religion). first jesus was a jew. second he spent much of his life learning from swamies in india(something that most christians convienlently leave out), third chritianity wasnt formed until 400 years after his death. fourth for all you who think christmas has meaning beyond fun and good times jesus was born in july. the whole conept of adam and eve makes cavemen evolution and any other race besides white people obsolete. we would all also be horribly horribly deformed by now because of inbreeding. right now peeople are bombing people in the name of "the lord" (its all about money though) but jesus was a peace activist and liberal. christianity is a violent religion, it was created around a violent death and has always been forced on people, sometimes in a violent way. like the crusades, like that fact that in the pledge of aligence we pray to god(hopefully not muh longer though) like our fatcat polititcians faveriote saying is probably God Bless America. there is no god, and if there was he would have smited us all for waking him up every sunday morning with barrage of prayers, seriously after a saturday night of partying drinking smoking weed and gang fucking he woulda wanted to sleep late, he wouldnt give a fuck about your prayers, hed be making coffee and trying to lose his hangover...

Just a note, the exitance of a God isn't bound to Chirstianity, or any religion. Just thought I'd mention that.

Though I do see the problems with Chirstianity, I don't think you'll get much of a response with the way you went about making your argument. While you made som interesting points, it seemed to come off in an immature way. The last sentence has a lot to do with that.

I haven't heard of Jesus being born in July. Could you quote a source? I have read some articles on Jesus’ missing years and according to this page:

http://www.str.org/free/studies/india.htm

They say that it is unlikely that he studied in India, but frankly I'm no biblical scholar so I'm always looking for better information. Again, please quote sources so I can correct myself.

[edit: I had to fix the link.]

[This message has been edited by chaos_guy (edited 03-11-2004).]

Im pretty sure theres no proof as to when he was specifically born, however the reason they say he was born on December 25 is beccause when the Christians were converting the pegans they thought it would be easier to give them a holiday that fell around the same time as their Winter Solstice.

Its believed he was born sometime in the spring/summer though, but I don't think theres any documentation of exactly when he was born.