I have no real licence to write about this, I've not the experience or knowledge to do so in the manner I'd wish, or that which would signify any real authority. Also I'm a lazy bastard and I can't realy be bothered looking up the quotes, so they may not be word for word accurate.

I thought I would write this as there seems to have been a few of posts about Jesus in this forum lately, usualy only adressing the human Jesus, without speaking of the form Jesus takes as Logos, or the The Word of the opening of the Gosple of John.

This word comes from Greek Philosophy, from Plato in particular I think. The more correct translation of this is Reason, and it reffers to a creative intelligence that exists within all things, directing all things, indeed acting though all things. This istelf is the lifeforce.

I meantioned that this concept, or the word for it, has been taken from Greek philosophy, but similar concepts are also found in Qabbalahlistic teachings, also in the Islamic, overtly in Sufism, aswell as the Eastern traditions that have they're source in the Sananta Dharma, (the prodominate ones being 'Hinduism' and Buddhism) and to my understanding Taoism.

Perhaps, as far as I have read, it may not always be spoken of in a seperate state from other concepts of these philosophies and religions, as indeed it is written in John "The Word was with God.....The Word is God" or Taoism, "Men live in/by the Tao and do not know it, even as fish live in water." This is the real Son of God, and the last step before complete knowledge of "The Father" which is a state beyond all forms, in the "Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" the author shows that in Buddhism, at least in his tradtion, this concept is reffered to as the Dharmakaya(sp.) mind, he also identifies Nirmanakaya(mind) as "The Father" of the Christian Trinity, which is experienced in Nirvana/Samadhi as the unborn, unmanifest, ultimate truth.

Where as the Son is, as I stated at the beinging, an extremily subtle intelligence, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father accept through the Son/by me." The experience of this is extreme bliss, coupled with true harmony with everything, and it is in this which (we realise) God loves us unconditionaly, it is not that we have to follow any comandments for Him to love us, but that we should live in the best possible way for us to feel and realise that He does, doing those things that will draw us closer to this knowledge. Still, He will not nessecarily do anything for us in this repect if we would like some other things. It could be said to be love itself, but perhaps in such a pure form that it would bare only some resemblance to that which is comonly held to be love, perhaps that fault is my own, but it also has many other qualities that seem to be welded within it. Eventualy one can be in this state constantly, not just when in meditiation or prayer.

I thought that I had much more to say, but it seems I don't.

As waves upon my head the circling curl, So in the sacred dance weave ye and whirl. Dance then, O heart, a whirling circle be. Burn in this flame - is not the candle He? -Rumi