(This is the heaven part.)

Ya know something occurred to me when I was typing my last post for Cunfoozedmunkee. Well I believe hell is a place where everyone suffers differently. Because not everyone has the same idea of what suffering is.

So it brought me back to one of my old teenage theories. Maybe this place we are in now is heaven. Well because occurding to the bible Eden was paradise, and paradise and heaven are the same thing.

Where else could we go to have free will and free spirit. Maybe we were some being of another form before we came into this heaven. Maybe the gift for doing something in our other form is to become physical, and expirience physical wonders.

One being the long loved orgasm, building physical strength, eating, shitting even. It kinda makes sense, sense not everyone has the same idea of paradise either. Here people have the chances to make their own paradises.

The beings we are before we are given the gift of being physical matter, look at this world with a certain excitement in them. Because in our other form we can't FEEL. But here we FEEL everything. They become human so that they can explore the wonders of FEELING.

When you think about it, everything that we do, we do just to feel. Sex, sit in the sun, explore things as children that we know could bring us harm, eat, play, everything has to do with wanting to feel something.

I think maybe that's why He doesn't take away the pain, and suffering. We learn from those, thus expanding our time in this form. If we never felt pain, we'd never had of made it this far. We would destroy our bodies and have wasted our time here.

The reason we aren't immortal is obvious. The physical plain has limits, where as the astral plain is without end. So that way everyone gets a chance.

Beside I don't know about you but being an angel to sing in heaven for all eternity doesn't sound like an after life I'd like. Nor is whining in hell.

(Plz don't post if you are not an open minded person, I'm in no way saying this is THE truth, but only a possibility)

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(The hell part)

Well it isn't much to say. It was my young Atheist(<lack of a better word.) little heart that came up with the concept. With all the suffering around us I thought maybe he put us here as punishment. But as my mind grew, I realized there were far more good sensations than bad.

(Back to heaven part)

In our other form we hated it and longed for complexity, that is the physical gift. being a living breathing thing.

This world, to me, is heaven as much as it can be. There's pleasure to give pain meaning, and pain to give pleasure meaning. Without one the other would be dull, and THEN you would be in hell; monotony is hell, variety is heaven. THIS world is variety, it is my paradise.

Yeah that's what I'm saying, their is no variety in heaven, the one with angels and all. It's dull and lifeless, and that would be a hell of some sort, to me.

This world even with all the suffering and death, is far more wonderous than the Christian heaven. Though I sometimes feel like this is hell I'd prefer it over being non-physical.

The only thing wrong with this world, is severe mass-stupidity.

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I agree with you. This world I think is a finite world. I think your imagination is,.. anything and everything. And the way others precieve what heaven is it seems to be another finite realm.

I think that emotions are there so we can learn.

The wisest thing I think you can know is that you know nothing. Which is keeping an open mind. Respect others though if they don't want an open mind. They have different ideas than you do. As well as other expirences. We all have a closed mind just some are "opener" than others. Could you fuck a horse? Is that a closed mind that says that sick and wrong. Yes I agree it is wrong and sick but did I close my mind off. Is a closed mind is just something you consider wrong? wether it is just an idea or an action. Is that a closed mind?

Sorry about the rant. my mind isn't holding still at this current momment in time.

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The World has the potential to be either Heaven or Hell. Its what we, as humanity, make of it.

Currently everyone loves drugs, porn, booze, raping, sex, all sorts of evil things. Hmm.. i wonder whether or not we are leaning towards the Hell side right now? ^_^ Its easy to give into temptation, but its hard to do the right thing, which makes the bigger difference. I hope we all change soon. Or else in about.. oh... 500 years. We're fucked =D

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I agree with you. This world I think is a finite world. I think your imagination is,.. anything and everything. And the way others precieve what heaven is it seems to be another finite realm.

I think that emotions are there so we can learn.

The wisest thing I think you can know is that you know nothing. Which is keeping an open mind. Respect others though if they don't want an open mind. They have different ideas than you do. As well as other expirences. We all have a closed mind just some are "opener" than others. Could you fuck a horse? Is that a closed mind that says that sick and wrong. Yes I agree it is wrong and sick but did I close my mind off. Is a closed mind is just something you consider wrong? wether it is just an idea or an action. Is that a closed mind?

Sorry about the rant. my mind isn't holding still at this current momment in time.

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Oh by the open mind thing I said, I just said that so ppl don't come at me with their 'the bible says this, the bible says that' stuff, because I'm not saying my ideals are true just a possibility, and thanx for posting. I was begining to think no one would.

quote:Originally posted by exesept:

The World has the potential to be either Heaven or Hell. Its what we, as humanity, make of it.

Currently everyone loves drugs, porn, booze, raping, sex, all sorts of evil things. Hmm.. i wonder whether or not we are leaning towards the Hell side right now? ^_^ Its easy to give into temptation, but its hard to do the right thing, which makes the bigger difference. I hope we all change soon. Or else in about.. oh... 500 years. We're fucked =D

Wow, you mean to tell me, you think: sex, porn, and booze is evil?

Yeah I do agree with you on one thing, if we don't turn around alot of the stuff were doing, the world (meaning the ppl) destroy it self. Maybe sooner than 500yrs.

no sex porn and booze is good. please dont stop abusing it. please dont. lets all go stare at poor girls naked. and drink some alcohol while we do so.

quote:Originally posted by exesept:

no sex porn and booze is good. please dont stop abusing it. please dont. lets all go stare at poor girls naked. and drink some alcohol while we do so.

Most of the porn stars I hear of are rich or pretty wealthy number one. It is a multi-billion dollar a year industry.

And number 2, I hate ppl like you, you live in an America where ppl don't have to own up to their mistakes and they're allowed to blame media and other so called influences for what they do.

Porn sex and booze is good. Until stupid ass ppl abuse those privileges and try to blame it on someone, or something else.

Why is it that I and billions of others can enjoy those things and not be stupid, while others go and commit crimes then blame it on the booze, sex, and porn.

Well I'll tell you, because ppl like you let them. You give them the opportunity to plead guilty do to insanity, or say that a song made them do this and that.

Whereas I was tuaght that using those things are ok, as long as you don't hurt anyone or yourself.

Those ppl who commit crimes do so, because ppl like you let them and they not only get a 'Get outta jail free' card, they get nice checks that support them, because what...they're insane.(Supposedly)

Ppl with your ideology dirty the world!

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