Ok someone I know might have killed themselves I dont know I cant get in touch with them. I want to know your opinions on weather she would make it to heaven I care a lot for her and I am concerned. Obviously I would hope more that she is alive but I dont know. Please dont someone come on here telling me that I am stuipd for believing in heaven and God and whatnot because I cannot take it right now. Please just be respectful and if you have an opinion I want to hear it I dont care but please if you dont believe in God be respectful dont call me a retardted pussy for being a Catholic or something.

Well, I know the Christian God doesn't like anyone who does anything he doesn't like so chances are she'd be in hell right now.

You can look at it two ways. One being you simply saying 'fuck you' and spitting in the face of God by throwing away his gift to you [life]. The second being that suicide is a form of murder [murdering ones self] and murder is a sin; a sin you can't repent.

Though I've always found it hard to believe that a God would create us all simply so we could live by his rules or burn for eternity.

God created us to be his perfect children, and to co-exist in peace with him and nature. He then gave humans a choice, and we chose to live in filth of our own creation. We are not made for punishment, we are made for glory.

Unfortunatly at this point we have little choice left. A child born into this world cannot escape it and what it is. Nobody now can live as God supposedly intended us to. Well, thats not true, it all depends on the cultrue you're born into. Some kid born into some tribe living in the rain forest will probably live a life closer to nature, himself and his family then anyone born in America or one of the many similar countries.

For a lot of us, we never had a chance and never will. In an atempt to escape our cultrue and live a life together with God and nature we would most likely end up dead, or simply fail. Not to say that would be true in all cases, but for the majority we have no chance and I don't feel a God can punish us for what we have no control over.

you become a ghost until the day you suppose to die

Christianity and Islam have the same view in this situation. Only God/Allah can give you life, so only He can take it back. If you take your own life, you defy Him in a very offensive way, AKA blashphemy. This act earns you a robe of fire and a place in Hell where you can stand on hot coals and your head explode, while angels smite you with iron clubs.

the whole thing with going to hell if you commit suicide is that your defying gods will, that he wants you to live and you've thrown that in his face and killed yourself. Theres a flaw in this however. Gods meant to be omipotent and therefore knows how everything is going to go down. Therefore he'd take your suicide into account and plan for it so it wouldnt be against his will. Also, according to catholicism and christianity and shit suicide is the only unpardonable sin, everything else you can apologise for and its all cool but if your dead its kinda hard so suicide is the only completely unforgivable sin in the eyes of god. This means that i can go out and rape, torture and kill an entire village of people, say im sorry and still go to heaven but if i kill one person, myself, without hurting anyone else then im going to hell. Doesnt sound right does it? thats why i reckon if you lived good, didnt hurt others then your going to heaven if it exists. If your a dick and hurt others then your going to hell, although im REALLY doubtful hell exists.

quote:Originally posted by StoneMan:

God created us to be his perfect children, and to co-exist in peace with him and nature. He then gave humans a choice, and we chose to live in filth of our own creation. We are not made for punishment, we are made for glory.

If we were meant for perfection, why weren't we integrated with perfection? The whole point in Jesus was to die for us to do what comes naturally; to sin.

ok this is a genereally agreed fact written about it books etc so its RIGHT

you get into heaven by believing in christ the son of god the ammount of treasure (no1 has ne idea what the treasure will be) you get in heaven is a result of your actions so if you did commit suicide but lead an otherwise good christian life you'll still go to heaven

i hope this helps