there is no such thing as 2 dimensions or three dimensions or even a fourth dimension.........

all this is a figment of your imagination...

the ultimate truth is ............



there is only the dimensionless......

from this which is the mind.

all the senses and other dimensions appear to spring.

to understand reality and who you are and the answers to all the big questions.....

one must understand the one sense that you truly have........

that sense is the mind.

in reality there are 6 or more senses

seeing hearing touching tasting smelling and thought(mind)

if one analysed the thought or mind sense thoroughly, one would realise that this is the epicentre from whence the other 5 senses spring........ to some people this is the epicentre from whence the other 6 , 7 , 8, or 9 senses spring.

stop studying that which you see(read)

stop studyiing that which you hear.

stop studying that which you taste

stop studying that which you smell

stop studying that which you touch.........

and start studying ones own mind.......that is the only purpose of life.

when studied thoroughly ....one will find that the mind does not really exist ......

that which exists is like movement and rest.

it is something that moves and then stops......that is all

reality is a movement and a rest.

nothing more ........nothing less

i think you will find this hard to grasp....

stop looking on the periphery.....ie the 5 senses and start looking at the epicentre.....look at being.......

im sorry if this sounds rather confusing.....

but to the very very wise ......this will make a lot of sense.

ego will be lost in the process..for that too is the periphery

peace to all living beings

Yet again you have procured an incrediblly useless, vague, pile of crap. If you yourself cannot properly explain what is going on in your mind, why the hell do you feel the need to share it?

i understood it completely, and i didn't even read most of it.

How does a person go about exploring his mind?

Horizontal = 1 dimension

Vertical = 1 dimension

Z-Axis, or Depth = 1 dimension

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Horizontal + Vertical + Depth= 3 dimensions

How are you going to disprove that?

quote:Originally posted by eBlip:

reality is a movement and a rest.

nothing more ........nothing less

In this religion, what matters? Should I do this, or do that?

quote:Originally posted by theBishop:

How are you going to disprove that?

There are many ways to prove/disprove anything, except one thing.

Go back to putting mirrors in water...

quote:Originally posted by eBlip:

I posted Stuff here.



Ok. Sorry about the shortenning.. but anyways. This is about the 6'th sense thing. Your arguement is pretty good.. but as with anything, there are holes. Since the brain (mind) translates all of the previous senses for you to recognize them, I can only say that considering thought as a six sense is repetetive, and useless.

yes it is true that all things are interpreted by your mind and your mind makes all things true, but those things are still things. THIS is the ultimate truth. there is such a thing as space and mass, and time isnt just in your head. even though laws of physics and other stuff like that were "invented" by man, and put in mans word by mans numbers, those laws still exsist, but to understand them we need to...make them.

the universe IS the way it IS. it isnt made up by you, it exsists the way it is. but your sensory organs are you only way of interpreting the universe.

think of it this way, if one person was blind and deaf and couldnt taste smell or feel, then there might as well be no universe, but the rest of us know there is.

your explination is backwards. what we intrepret exists, but there are things we cannot sense that do exsist, call them whatever you want, astral planes, spirits, chaos, whatever.

to the maggots in the cheese the cheese is the universe, all they know is the cheese. there is more surrounding them, but they cannot sense it. how do we know then that there isnt more around us that we just dont have the organs to recognize, or things that are unrecognizable.

if no humans had eyes, would there be light???

yes, it would still exist, but we wouldnt know.

quote:Originally posted by seraph~aral:



the universe IS the way it IS. it isnt made up by you, it exsists the way it is. but your sensory organs are you only way of interpreting the universe.



w00t! Verba! Sing it brotha!

eBlip, how come you never post at LIA anymore? Is it because you got your dumbass immaterialist shit ruined? Why, I think it is!

quote:Originally posted by seraph~aral:

yes it is true that all things are interpreted by your mind and your mind makes all things true, but those things are still things. THIS is the ultimate truth. there is such a thing as space and mass, and time isnt just in your head. even though laws of physics and other stuff like that were "invented" by man, and put in mans word by mans numbers, those laws still exsist, but to understand them we need to...make them.

the universe IS the way it IS. it isnt made up by you, it exsists the way it is. but your sensory organs are you only way of interpreting the universe.

think of it this way, if one person was blind and deaf and couldnt taste smell or feel, then there might as well be no universe, but the rest of us know there is.

your explination is backwards. what we intrepret exists, but there are things we cannot sense that do exsist, call them whatever you want, astral planes, spirits, chaos, whatever.

to the maggots in the cheese the cheese is the universe, all they know is the cheese. there is more surrounding them, but they cannot sense it. how do we know then that there isnt more around us that we just dont have the organs to recognize, or things that are unrecognizable.

if no humans had eyes, would there be light???

yes, it would still exist, but we wouldnt know.

i disagree.

there are versions of the universe.. just like versions of the truth, and everything. everyone, everything, has it's own assemblage point from which it perceives the universe, for itself.

humans see light because many perceive it that way, but for something that doesn't it doesn't exist for their universe, at their assemblage point.

to the maggots in the cheese, that's ALL THERE IS for them, but not for some other things. if the maggots can't sense the rest of the universe, then it doesn't exist.. only for things that can

for instance, lola loves ned.. does that mean you love ned but don't know it? you might hate ned, or not know he exists. in your universe he might not exist, but in lola's he does and she loves him.

^ Replace 'universe' with perception, and your point may make some fucking sense. You're saying that if you don't know about something, it doesn't exist. Because I haven't discovered what makes people age, does that mean it doesn't exist? Because people don't know about the next solar systems planets, do they not exist? Because I've never met my neighbors, do they not exist? universe? wtf? There's only ONE universe, hence the latin root, uni = ONE.

good point about the word universe.

when people don't know about the next solar system's planets they don't exist, then when certain people choose to become aware of the planets they change their assemblage point at which they are perceiving their surroundings.

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