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Zcon10
2004-05-10, 03:40
What the fuck is Scientology?

I went to Scientology.org, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do they worship a god?

What are the beliefs?

Someone please help!

KikoSanchez
2004-05-10, 05:50
search religioustolerance.org

Hexadecimal
2004-05-10, 06:27
Scientology=cult.

It was invented by L. Ron Hubbard as a cash cow. The basis of the religion is that some alien warlord dealt with overpopulation by chucking millions of aliens into volcanoes, and now the spirits of these aliens infest humans today and they are what cause our illnesses, both mental and physical. They provide "cleansing" services for outrageous amounts of money, have a very well enforced NDA, have propoganda and smear campaigns to ruin the image of most people who speak against them, and have attempted to gain status as a religion...luckily the US government isn't THAT fucking stupid and classifies the Church of Scientology as a business.

All you need to know about the CoS (http://www.xenu.net)

[This message has been edited by Hexadecimal (edited 05-10-2004).]

nevermind
2004-05-10, 14:50
My mum told me she went to a scientology church or whatever they call it in the 1980's. for a fee of about £10(quite a lot on 1980) they offered to read her thetans or dianectic or something, i cant remmeber what, but she said they had this peice of crap machine which looked like something from an old sci-fi set which all it had was a place which printed out random graphs, and this was supposed to measure something about her, so they could cure her or something. apparently she just laughed because it was such a load of rubbish and just there to empty peoples pockets.

its a money making scam, made by some sci-fi writer who once said "a penny a word wont make you rich, the way to get rich is to invent a religion" or something like that...then he invented scientology and went on tv saying he had visions from aliens or something like that. its just a crazy cult.

covert hostility
2004-05-10, 16:58
quote:Originally posted by nevermind:

but she said they had this peice of crap machine which looked like something from an old sci-fi set



I am very sorry to say it, but your mother is very stupid. You do not seem very bright either, nevermind. I will indulge you anyway. What your mother was talking about was the E-meter. It is an accurate measuring device used to measure any source of abberation in the spirit. (thetan) I have tested the E-meter several times myself, and it does work. If you think about anything painful while holding the two holders the needle will actually jump as soon as you think about the pain. Then the Scientologist (auditor) is then able to clear that source of pain out for you, by simple processes.

Do you agree that if you had no pain in your life, you would be in total peace??? Anyway that is what tthe Church of Scientology does. They clear pain out of peoples lives.

Hexadecimal
2004-05-10, 22:32
No, they don't. My uncle was involved in Scientology for 13 years; it ruined his life. They kept trying to get him to go for more "cleansings", but he had spent his entire inheritance on that bullshit cult. You think benevolent people would be kind enough to help fellow man out if they had the true cure.

And the E-Meter as you call it, is simply a lie detector...it senses when the body loses rhythm due to insecure thoughts, or various ranges of other things (and pain is most definitely uncomfortable, and will register on any standard lie detector as the subject reacts). Scientology is a load of bullshit created by a money hungred writer who has been ACCURATELY QOUTED as saying the way to make money is to invent a religion...and guess what? He did.

There is a reason the government declares Scientology a business and not a religion; it serves no spiritual purpose, it is a money making corporation. Any positive side effects one experiences from a 'cleansing' diminish quickly after, giving a very firm claim to plecebo effect. My uncle has luckily gotten his life back on track since he left the CoS, and he is much much happier now without his 'cleansings'. Fuck you and your support of a verifiable cult.

covert hostility
2004-05-12, 00:50
We all have our opinions ^^^ http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

hand_made_attrocity
2004-05-12, 01:46
quote:Originally posted by covert hostility:

We all have our opinions ^^^ http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

Well in my opinion, your an idiot.

sp0rkius
2004-05-12, 18:53
quote:Originally posted by covert hostility:

We all have our opinions ^^^ http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

Haven't you found another forum to troll yet?

Aphelion Corona
2004-05-12, 19:50
And in my opinion you're not so great at spelling.

Yukmouth
2004-05-12, 21:28
"Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones."

-Tool

blondlot
2004-05-16, 06:49
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/atack/ http://www.xenutv.com/

L. Ron Hubbard was a gutsy, imaginative pathological liar who created a cult to make himself rich and powerful. The Hub’s religious teachings, aka Tech are nothing more than a smattering of Eastern philosophies, outdated psychology and a hearty dollop of Ron's own creative writing to make it just that much more interesting. It's all brought together under one roof by the dense sci-fi terminology Hubbard created especially for Scientology.

...I have to admit; I think it's all pretty cool. Much of what I've heard about church activities is creepy and has sometimes been criminal, but it’s also been interesting and I daresay fun to have such an actively subversive and audacious group behaving strangely in our culture. But on the other hand they do hurt people, so I don't know... I’m sure my feelings would change if Scientology actually affected my life, but as it is I just dig reading about it.

must... have... strangeness

Hell, in a hundred years it could be the next Christianity.





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Hexadecimal
2004-05-16, 20:02
I'll wage war against Scientology; I get along with Christians and other religions just fine, but Scientology is just too fucked up. They're like Christianity was back in the 1600's.

nevermind
2004-05-16, 20:08
quote:Originally posted by covert hostility:

Originally posted by nevermind:

but she said they had this peice of crap machine which looked like something from an old sci-fi set



I am very sorry to say it, but your mother is very stupid. You do not seem very bright either, nevermind. I will indulge you anyway. What your mother was talking about was the E-meter................

Anyway that is what tthe Church of Scientology does. They clear pain out of peoples lives.



quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

And the E-Meter as you call it, is simply a lie detector...it senses when the body loses rhythm due to insecure thoughts, or various ranges of other things



well im not paying all the cash to have a lie detector test http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif) obviously my mothers a lot more intelligent than you are :P

covert hostility
2004-05-17, 03:11
How can some of you people come up with these conclusions, when obviously you have never even read a thorough book of his. All you do is read something or hear something bad and untrue then believe it. Scientology is something you have to experience for yourself. You cannot just hear or read something bad or untrue and come to the conclusion that it is true. Ugh, This is not even worth my effort because most of you cannot except any other reality than your own. Bye now.

Hexadecimal
2004-05-17, 05:10
You stupid douche, I don't need to experience it, my uncle did, and it fucking ruined him.

Gaffer6
2004-05-17, 21:37
Lets see in 13 years, either covert hostility has gone crazy, or has had his life ruined...

I hate those fucking sheep...

Lucky
2004-05-20, 03:22
We should have a pool on when Covert hostility actually has his life ruined. I got 2008 sometime before July.

Kryolotor
2004-06-07, 03:46
I'm going to have to undercut you 2008, sometime before June. Damn, covert, you are one crazy motherfucker, you know that? Scientology is a certifiable cult and if you don't like us bad-mouthing it, why don't you disconnect us and make our lives easier? Why don't you believe all the things that are said about your faith until you see them, but have spent so much fucking money getting there that you honestly believe it means something? I mean, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

(And, by the way, I am man enough to take an assault on my faith, too, so I'm not just dishing out shit I can't take. Research the theory of the universal mind and other things like that to get an idea, then try to attack me back if you want.)

quote:"Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones."

inquingconsciouss
2004-06-07, 06:09
quote:Originally posted by Yukmouth:

"Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones."

-Tool

Metalligod
2004-06-07, 07:01
It's like 2 in the morn, and Toni's kickin in, and I just read:

quote:I am very sorry to say it, but your mother is very stupid.

That shit cracked me up, it caught me off gaurd, but the hostility was hilarious. I like this 'Covert Hostility' character. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

:I like the hostility it's amusing, not too sure about the views though, haven't read enough on you: Keep me laughin. Flame me, if you will.

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Uncus
2004-06-12, 15:50
quote:Originally posted by covert hostility:

How can some of you people come up with these conclusions, when obviously you have never even read a thorough book of his. All you do is read something or hear something bad and untrue then believe it. Scientology is something you have to experience for yourself. You cannot just hear or read something bad or untrue and come to the conclusion that it is true. Ugh, This is not even worth my effort because most of you cannot except any other reality than your own. Bye now.



And you'd prefer them to accept yours, right ?

Covert hostility, this is all wrong.

Don't you see that you can't just reproach people having their own opinions and not just swallowing whole what you are telling them ?

You have to grant them SOME intelligence, you know.

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crow4523
2004-06-13, 01:32
quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Scientology=cult.

It was invented by L. Ron Hubbard as a cash cow. The basis of the religion is that some alien warlord dealt with overpopulation by chucking millions of aliens into volcanoes, and now the spirits of these aliens infest humans today and they are what cause our illnesses, both mental and physical. They provide "cleansing" services for outrageous amounts of money, have a very well enforced NDA, have propoganda and smear campaigns to ruin the image of most people who speak against them, and have attempted to gain status as a religion...luckily the US government isn't THAT fucking stupid and classifies the Church of Scientology as a business.

All you need to know about the CoS (http://www.xenu.net)

[This message has been edited by Hexadecimal (edited 05-10-2004).]

[This message has been edited by crow4523 (edited 06-13-2004).]

Gaspode
2004-07-10, 13:44
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Optimus Prime
2004-07-10, 18:45
Felt the need to inform the masses of the Cult of Scientology?