While watching the news... a story about how the porn industry is being threatened by AIDS...

I wonder if this is the wrath of God?

no

quote:Originally posted by ContractKiller 2.0:

no

I don't mean to make assumptions but, YES YES YES. all of the damned sinners are dying because of thier vices. I wish I could find the cure and take it to the grave!

It not his style. He prefers immediate action, like swarms of locusts and massive floods. AIDS is too methodical to be His handywork

quote:Originally posted by ContractKiller 2.0:

no

Well, considering God doesn't exist.....



No

quote:Originally posted by Jesus:

Yes

quote:Originally posted by Jesus:

Ow! Ow!! OWW!! My fucking hands are KILLING me..

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quote:Originally posted by ContractKiller 2.0:

no

quote:Originally posted by god:

yes

If you get AIDS these days, you were probably doing something you know puts you at a high risk, so its your fucking fault.

Duh......Government Conspiricy to keep other countries weak and helpless....like Africa.

It's not devine justice till p00p gets AIDS.

God likes porn. Why would he punish the industry?

Actually, as god's left hand (Trust me, you don't want to be his right), God was using AIDS to punish african monkeys for biting humans.

since there is no god no. Its natures way of giving niggers the metephorical "finger."

The niggers are paying for being whores.

If beastality was a sin...

Then yes! Yes he is!

God is mans mind playing tricks on him

AIDS is a ham sandwhich

God is not that much of a bitch.

This question is the same is "is the reason Black people are impoverished because they are evil?". The answer is yes, although it's not a magic flying man dishing out the funk but Mother Nature. Layin' down the smack. oh yeah!

Many people who chose to not follow nature's law expect a magic god to come and save them from their violations of natural law, and that just doesn't happen.

DOWZ.Net (http://www.dowz.net)

I kill the sinners. I am god.Nice to meet you http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

^^ You can't claim Jesus-hood and God-hood in the same day!

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Nobody Knows it yet but I heard god recently got AIDS from a chinese drag queen. he got a bad case ogf the crabs too

quote:Originally posted by SATURNROCKETX:

This question is the same is "is the reason Black people are impoverished because they are evil?". The answer is yes, although it's not a magic flying man dishing out the funk but Mother Nature. Layin' down the smack. oh yeah!

Many people who chose to not follow nature's law expect a magic god to come and save them from their violations of natural law, and that just doesn't happen.

DOWZ.Net (http://www.dowz.net)

Allthough The Dragon has done a great job in showing his stupidity tonight, I can begin to see where his remarks towards you were coming from. So you don't like black people. I think we got that! It gets fucking old to hear you again and again about why us aryans are better then the world, and why the "nigger scum" is bad at this and that.

You're a racist. I'm sorry you feel that way about black people, but it's your own deal. We DO NOT care. So please, restrain from dragging us all into it.

quote:Originally posted by ihaveatorso:

^^ You can't claim Jesus-hood and God-hood in the same day!

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Yes I can, I reproduce by budding.

Its the niggers fault for eating their relitives http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif). Why do niggers get aids more than white people? Some northern europeans are almost immune to aids. This is whitness fightin the nigger. 1488 WPWW

sin is not in the skin,friends..its in Milwaukee

quote:Originally posted by letsnukechina:

Actually, as god's left hand (Trust me, you don't want to be his right), God was using AIDS to punish african monkeys for biting humans.

Please tell me you're not serious.... If you are, i'll tell you why that's bullshit: animals don't have feelings or a consciense (sp) so God punishing an animal would be no difference that punshing a rock.

But God doesn't exist anyway, so it doesn't matter....

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

Please tell me you're not serious.... If you are, i'll tell you why that's bullshit: animals don't have feelings or a consciense (sp) so God punishing an animal would be no difference that punshing a rock.

But God doesn't exist anyway, so it doesn't matter....

you're very theological for an atheist; are you one of those folks who grew up in a christian/jewish family, decided not to believe in god, but still took in most of a values and traditions?

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

animals don't have feelings or a consciense (sp) so God punishing an animal would be no difference that punshing a rock.



I would make a comment about this, But I think the ignorance behind this quote speaks for itself.

I swear, they grow an opposible thumb, and they think they are above the other animals.

quote:Originally posted by Chest Brockwell:

I would make a comment about this, But I think the ignorance behind this quote speaks for itself.

I swear, they grow an opposible thumb, and they think they are above the other animals.

Make your comment, prove me wrong. I would like to see you argue the fact that all animals but human lack the region of the brain needed for emotion, and the fact that no animals but humans have the mentally capcity to have a sense of self.



Bitch.

Animals have a central nervous system. Not unlike that of a human. They can feel pain, simple as that.

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

Make your comment, prove me wrong. I would like to see you argue the fact that all animals but human lack the region of the brain needed for emotion, and the fact that no animals but humans have the mentally capcity to have a sense of self.



Bitch.

before claiming animals that don't that emotion, please define emotion? isn't it the irrational, illogical behaivior that allows us to connect with others and create communities and societies?

the term animals is kind of vague. I think animals can feel emotion.theyre not robots. havent you ever seen a gorilla in love or a sad elephant...huh huh? pretty convincing oh yeah angry sharks too, I swear you take out a loan and theyre allover your ass...

quote:Originally posted by Snoil-nine:

the term animals is kind of vague. I think animals can feel emotion.theyre not robots. havent you ever seen a gorilla in love or a sad elephant...huh huh? pretty convincing oh yeah angry sharks too, I swear you take out a loan and theyre allover your ass...

No. I'm sorry but you can't argue this. Animals don't feel emotion. Period. They DO NOT have the part of the brain required for emotion. Period.

Anytime you see an animal come up to you and rub you leg and act happy as hell, it's not because it's happy. It can't be happy. It 'acts' happy so you'll do stuff to it that feels good physically. And animals brains work like this: if i do it and it feels good it must be good for me. That's a short way to tell the inner workings of an animals brain.

I mean.... i had a cat once that drank anit-freeze and died. The anti-freeze tasted sweet to the cat, so the cat's behavior told it to eat more, because as far as that cats concerned, if it feels good physically it must be good for you.

Fear, the most basic of emotions is present every where in nature. Their is also happiness (scientific this is refered to as beastly joy) when a cat purrs at being petted, or a dog wags it's tail as it's owner walks in the room.

Their is grief as an elephant sits by a dead family member for several days, hanging it's head and ocasionaly laying it's trunk on it in mourning.

Animals posses a hypothalamus, which is often crdited as playing a major role in expression of emotions and the four F behaviors. The amygdala also plays a role in emotions and the memory of them, and also is present in animals.

Animals are also self aware. They feel pain. They also in many instances communicate with each other, though not always verbally.

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

No. I'm sorry but you can't argue this. Animals don't feel emotion. Period. They DO NOT have the part of the brain required for emotion. Period.

Anytime you see an animal come up to you and rub you leg and act happy as hell, it's not because it's happy. It can't be happy. It 'acts' happy so you'll do stuff to it that feels good physically. And animals brains work like this: if i do it and it feels good it must be good for me. That's a short way to tell the inner workings of an animals brain.

I mean.... i had a cat once that drank anit-freeze and died. The anti-freeze tasted sweet to the cat, so the cat's behavior told it to eat more, because as far as that cats concerned, if it feels good physically it must be good for you.



wait a minute Koko the gorilla told me personally from her cellphone that she feels emotion.now,how can you argue with agorilla on cell phone?

quote:Originally posted by Easy Going:

God likes porn. Why would he punish the industry?

Thanks to you I just pictured God having a wank... I'll prolly go to hell for that. Damn you.

*edit - Wow... ignorance, thy name is wristslitter!

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Damn there's a bunch o fuckin idiots in the world.

quote:Originally posted by themagmasher:

If you get AIDS these days, you were probably doing something you know puts you at a high risk, so its your fucking fault.

Yeah, like those kids in Africa who are born with it, I mean they knew that being born was a high risk activity so it's their fucking fault. You moron.

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

No. I'm sorry but you can't argue this. Animals don't feel emotion. Period. They DO NOT have the part of the brain required for emotion. Period.

Anytime you see an animal come up to you and rub you leg and act happy as hell, it's not because it's happy. It can't be happy. It 'acts' happy so you'll do stuff to it that feels good physically. And animals brains work like this: if i do it and it feels good it must be good for me. That's a short way to tell the inner workings of an animals brain.

I mean.... i had a cat once that drank anit-freeze and died. The anti-freeze tasted sweet to the cat, so the cat's behavior told it to eat more, because as far as that cats concerned, if it feels good physically it must be good for you.

As far as fuckin Dr. Doolittle over here who KNOWS exactly how animals operate... what exactly is the physical part of the human brain that generates emotions? Since you claim to know for certain that animals to not have it you must know exactly which neurons and dendrites produce nothing besides the complex thoughts, memories, and chemical reactions that are emotions.

Your description of how animals only 'act' like they feel emotions is total bullshit my main man. You could say exactly the same thing about humans.

Your example about how you fucking were irresponsible enough to let your cat die is no different from a herion addict dying from their addiction.

God does not excist.... so NO,

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Isn't it more of a sin to use a condom?

quote:Originally posted by Chest Brockwell:

Fear, the most basic of emotions is present every where in nature. Their is also happiness (scientific this is refered to as beastly joy) when a cat purrs at being petted, or a dog wags it's tail as it's owner walks in the room.

Their is grief as an elephant sits by a dead family member for several days, hanging it's head and ocasionaly laying it's trunk on it in mourning.

Animals posses a hypothalamus, which is often crdited as playing a major role in expression of emotions and the four F behaviors. The amygdala also plays a role in emotions and the memory of them, and also is present in animals.

Animals are also self aware. They feel pain. They also in many instances communicate with each other, though not always verbally.



hypothalamus eh? i thought the hypothalamus was used for homeostasis: http://thalamus.wustl.edu/course/hypoANS.html

it has nothing to do with higher thought or consciousness.

quote:Isn't it more of a sin to use a condom?

That's assuming, of course, that God exists and that anybody (the Catholic church in this case) has any idea what the fuck he wants. People who walk around assuming they know what an omniscient diety wants are utter jackasses.

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God is punishing sinners by creating American Idol

Your description of how animals only 'act' like they feel emotions is total bullshit my main man. You could say exactly the same thing about humans.

Your example about how you fucking were irresponsible enough to let your cat die is no different from a herion addict dying from their addiction.[/B][/QUOTE]

Cat's dont know any better though. They don't think like we do, if "think" is what you want to call it. Their whole behavior is based on stimlus and reaction. They dont have logic or anything else would relate with thinking.

You can't argue that animals don't have logic OR emotion.

Surely doing something that feels good physically is the most logical thing to do, as the animal doesn't know that it could hurt it. Assuming that your cat didn't know that it would die from the anti-freeze and it tasted good, it would be completely illogical not to drink it.

quote:Originally posted by PTB:

You can't argue that animals don't have logic OR emotion.

Surely doing something that feels good physically is the most logical thing to do, as the animal doesn't know that it could hurt it. Assuming that your cat didn't know that it would die from the anti-freeze and it tasted good, it would be completely illogical not to drink it.

It's not about logic. Animal don't have logic. As i stated before animals rely on stimulus and irritibility to dictate their behaviours. And i can ague animals dont have emotion because they don't have the part of the brain needed for emotion.

You're argueing that something is being produced by something that doesn't exist. Now how logical is that?

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONGING TO US!

Maybe, but there will be much worse things to come.

AIDS is just the start if you ask me.

quote:Originally posted by NumB-nUTz:

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONGING TO US!

13 points for me...

It's 'All your base are belong to us'. Goddamnit.

quote:Originally posted by GrulufKahn:

It's 'All your base are belong to us'. Goddamnit.

haha it still counts... I have found 18 now... damn I am on a roll

quote:Originally posted by SilentKill:

God is punishing sinners by creating American Idol

There ya go. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif) http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

quote:Originally posted by davidven:

hypothalamus eh? i thought the hypothalamus was used for homeostasis: http://thalamus.wustl.edu/course/hypoANS.html

it has nothing to do with higher thought or consciousness.

The hypothalamus regulates some of the "motivated" behaviors, like thermal regulation, sexuality, combativeness, hunger and thirst. The hypothalamus is also believed to play a role in emotion. Its lateral parts seem to be involved with pleasure and rage, while the median part is like to be involved with aversion, displeasure and a tendency to uncontrollable and loud laughing.

I admit the hypothalamus has more to do with the expression (symptomatic manifestations) of emotions than with the creation of them. When the physical symptoms of emotion appear, the threat they pose returns, via hypothalamus, to the limbic centers and, then to the pre-frontal nuclei, increasing anxiety. This negative feed-back mechanism can also generate a situation of panic in the brain.

I was only demonstrating to our ignorant friend that animals do have the same parts of the brain we have that generate and express emotion. I did not mean to imply the Hypothalamus only preforms an emotional function, because it does alot more than that.

WristSlitter you abviously didn't have your cat long emough to see its intlegents, we have exactly the same emotional responses as animals, we just have more stimuli and more forms of response but the process is the same.

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

Well, considering God doesn't exist.....



No

Why dont you just do what your User Name refers to and slit your wrist the right way.

So Dr. Doolittle, now animals are not only incapable of emotion but logic also... my you certainly are an active member of the scientific community aren't you?

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

It's not about logic. Animal don't have logic. As i stated before animals rely on stimulus and irritibility to dictate their behaviours.

You do realise that any form of decision making is logic, don't you? My computer relies on inputs to produce outputs as well, through a process known as logic.

quote: And i can ague animals dont have emotion because they don't have the part of the brain needed for emotion.

No, you can't 'ague' anything, you have yet to tell me exactly what parts of the brain are physically not present in an animal that would give it emotions were they present. All you have said is "They don't have it." Have fucking what? If you don't even know what the hell it is you're talking about then you can't say you know that it's not in an animal's brain.

Tell me, how do you explain it when dogs rescue their unconsious owners out of burning buildings?

quote:Originally posted by ContractKiller 2.0:

No

quote:Originally posted by Tashimojo:

Tell me, how do you explain it when dogs rescue their unconsious owners out of burning buildings?

i would think by biteng a part of clothing or their owner's genitalia and dragging them out .

Not to complicated.

You can't be punished by something that does not exist.

quote: Some northern europeans are almost immune to aids. This is whitness fightin the nigger. 1488 WPWW

Whered you read that? id feel a lot better fucking girls if i thought i was immune to AIDS

Yes, It's the beginning of the world's destruction and diseases through out the world. perhaps http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)

You know, sex wasnt always considered a sin. Matter of fact, until modern "Christianity" (invented by Constantine, a pagan roman emperor),sex was a spiritual ritual in many religions. So I seriously doubt God would only start seeing it as a bad thing and start punishing us in recent (propotionally)days.

That is, again, assuming there is a God. So many religions have come and gone in the history of the world, it's hard to tell.

I do think God punishes idiots though. That's right, he strikes folks like poop and wristslitter down with lightning when they go outside and play with golf clubs and such during a bad storm.

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^^ What the fuck did i ever do??????

quote:Originally posted by liquid:

Whered you read that? id feel a lot better fucking girls if i thought i was immune to AIDS

ur not 100% immune to aids. it was just the people in northern germany and arround there. even the jews admit it.

you have aids

quote:Originally posted by ContractKiller 2.0:

no

quote:Originally posted by SilentKill:

i would think by biteng a part of clothing or their owner's genitalia and dragging them out .

Not to complicated.

Thanks retard, but I didn't ask how they do it.

I asked WristSlitter how he explains behavior like that from something that is incapable of both logic and emotion.

Is reading really that fucking hard?

quote:Originally posted by WristSlitter:

Well, considering God doesn't exist.....



No

Dammit I was going to say that.

Otherwise, I second that

aids has a conciousness and is targeting all the oversized penii in the world,coz it thinks theyre photoshop'd.

\||monkeyman

no.hes curing gay people.with aids.

*rimshot

get it.because it kills em.

whats that?not funny?

oh http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)

The fact that my thread got so many responses = you should all get aids and die.

Sure, why not?

Hey there is no god, thus he isn't punshing people with aids. I'm getting sick and tired of people saying that god is great and god will save you from sins, hell according to you he will punish for our sins too. I am wiccan myself, and I truely belive in the God and the Goddess. And your little god...isn't there, he is just a figment of your petty imagination.

pe@ce off my grass

Anarchy Kitty

If that makes you feel better. Then yes pOOp it's the wrath of god

quote:Originally posted by anarchykitty:

(Hey there is no god), thus he isn't punshing people with aids. I'm getting sick and tired of people saying that god is great and god will save you from sins, hell according to you he will punish for our sins too. I am wiccan myself, and I (truely belive in the God) and the Goddess. And your little god...isn't there, he is just a figment of your petty imagination.

pe@ce off my grass

Anarchy Kitty

Nice contradiction If your scrutinizing Christianity for the dogmatic doctrines and accordance with the inexonorable paradox ( If hes good why does evil exist)Then Please explain why suffering exists

Dont quote me. And if god loves everyone why would he kill them with a disease? Especially considering christian teaches you will be punished when you die anyway (not that thats what actually happens or anything, but hey christians would know better than me they died a came back to life once already right?).

quote:Originally posted by Jesus:

Dont quote me. And if god loves everyone why would he kill them with a disease? Especially considering christian teaches you will be punished when you die anyway (not that thats what actually happens or anything, but hey christians would know better than me they died a came back to life once already right?).

why would he kill them at all?

I don't believe GOD is punishing anyone with AIDS! Anyone that truly believes this needs their head examined.

Mother Teresa has been quoted as saying that AIDS is God's punishment for dodgey sex

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

Mother Teresa has been quoted as saying that AIDS is God's punishment for dodgey sex

http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif) What's dodgey sex? http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif)

Mother Theresa wasn't a particularly nice person in a lot of ways.

If God is punishing sinners with AIDS, he's doing a pretty bad job of it. I'm sure there are plenty of good people with AIDS, and I'm living proof that there are plenty of sinners without it.

quote:Originally posted by Nemisis:

http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif) What's dodgey sex? http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif)



I dunno, i think she put it more like "sexual mispractice" or something.

I'd say she is far more entitled to her views about AIDS than anyone else here- I know I havent spent much of my life looking after people living and dieing from this virus.

I'm a sinner and i don't have aids.

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

I dunno, i think she put it more like "sexual mispractice" or something.

I'd say she is far more entitled to her views about AIDS than anyone else here- I know I havent spent much of my life looking after people living and dieing from this virus.

Yes she has spent a lifetime helping other people. That in it's self doesn't give her the right to say that GOD is punishing sinners with aids because of sex. There have been many people who have contracted aids form blood transfusions, and alot of those were children. I don't give a shit who a person is in the real world, you let her tell the parents of child who has aids, it's becuase that child is being punished, and I will bet you a $100.00 that she would get her ass knocked the fuck out, period!

Is Mother Teresa wrong? Quite possibly.

Is Mother Teresa the final authority on the purpose of AIDS? No.

How many people do you think could afford a blood transfusion in calcutta?

How many women would have recevied AIDS from having to work as prostitutes in a slum, like calcutta?

How many children would have contracted AIDS as a result of their parents being infected with HIV?

How many people would have contracted AIDS/HIV from IV drug use in a slum, like calcutta?

How many dying AIDS victims have you cared for?

Your reaction isn't wrong, I'd probably do exactly the same thing. But I'm inclined tpo think that her opinions on the issue have a bit more weight than most of ours.

I also doubt that Mother Teresa would say that a child's AIDS is the result of their own sexual misconduct- particularly if it was from blood transfusion...

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

Your reaction isn't wrong, I'd probably do exactly the same thing. But I'm inclined tpo think that her opinions on the issue have a bit more weight than most of ours.

I also doubt that Mother Teresa would say that a child's AIDS is the result of their own sexual misconduct- particularly if it was from blood transfusion...

I'm sorry if I get a little irritated, when I hear people making comments about something as serious as this. To answer you question about her opinion having more weight than ours. My answer is no. I don't think her opinion carries anymore weight than anyone elses. The reason I say this is because there have been missionaries of one sort or another traveling all over the world. They help the sick and needy.

But their help doesn't come without strings attached. Point being, awhile back I was watching an episode of the 700 club I believe it was. They were talking about how these missionaries were traveling from village to village helping sick people, and preaching their doctrines. Well they were telling these people not to go to the local witchdoctors for healing of anykind. They also told them that if they did seek help from one of the witch doctors they would go straight to hell when they died. They so scared the shit out of these villagers that when they left. The villagers in several of the these towns drug the witch doctors out in the street, and beat them to death,and burnt the bodies. I'd say the church has one hell of an agenda when it comes to scaring people into certain ways of thinking.

mmm, its pretty bad when that sort of stuff happens.

Just remember though that many groups of people who have "witchdoctors" often live in immense fear of them- to be set free of the power they hold over you and your community would be pretty liberating. (Although some would argue that you then become subject to the fear of the new religion).

It's a shame when aid/ missionary groups make their support contingent on adopting their beliefs. There's plenty that don't. I'm pretty sure Mother Teresa and co.'s work didn't come with strings attached .

What's the 700 club?

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

What's the 700 club?



The only TV show played in hell.

Nonstop.

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

mmm, its pretty bad when that sort of stuff happens.

Just remember though that many groups of people who have "witchdoctors" often live in immense fear of them- to be set free of the power they hold over you and your community would be pretty liberating. (Although some would argue that you then become subject to the fear of the new religion).

It's a shame when aid/ missionary groups make their support contingent on adopting their beliefs. There's plenty that don't. I'm pretty sure Mother Teresa and co.'s work didn't come with strings attached .

What's the 700 club?



Not all witch-doctors are feared in their towns. Some are highly regarded members of the community. But you let some of these missionaries go into those same towns, and give it a little time. I'll bet you they can brainwash enough people in that town, that they will actually start threatning that witch-doctors life, or even kill them. It has happened before, and it will happen again.

quote:Originally posted by inquingconsciouss:

Then Please explain why suffering exists

Suffering is a perceived state relative to other states of being. Without enjoyment, "suffering" does not exist and vice versa. Without happiness, "sadness" does not exist and vice versa.

quote:Originally posted by Nemisis:

Not all witch-doctors are feared in their towns. Some are highly regarded members of the community. But you let some of these missionaries go into those same towns, and give it a little time. I'll bet you they can brainwash enough people in that town, that they will actually start threatning that witch-doctors life, or even kill them. It has happened before, and it will happen again.



I don't doubt that it has happened but were both talking in vague generalisations: "not all", "i'll bet". For all we know it could be rampant brainwashing, or it could be isolated incidents.

The mission organistaions that I have some familiarity with- Global Inter-action (formerly ABMS), WEC and even christian based aid agencies like Compassion and World Vision have a very different understanding of and approach to missions and evangelism. That's not to say that it doesn't happen. It sucks when it does though.