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Zman
2004-06-04, 19:12
The credibility of Islam totally, 100% depends on the 100% desicration and change of the Bible.

1. There is no proof of this happening.

2. There is no reason anyone would want to change it.

3. Jewish and Christian scribes would've had to get together and change the Torah and New Testament, both of them and make them agree with each other.

4. This would've had to take all the Torahs every Jew had and every Bible every Christian had.

5. No Christian or Jew would ever accept any massive doctrine changing revision. Such as taking any mention of Muhammad away or generally changing everything the Koran says and the Torah and Gospels would've said. Look at the arguments we have now! We don't accept it why would past people? There are stories of people not accepting mistranslations of names of plants!

6. All scrolls of the Gospels are the same as we have now. There are 1000's of these and are from the century Jesus lived, so the Vatican hasn't changed them.

7. The Dead Sea scrolls check out and they are from centuries before Christ.

This all pretty much tells me Islam is not the true religion. Never has agreed with Judiasm or Christianity. What I mean is Jesus was not a Muslim. Abraham was not a Muslim. I have an open mind, but until someone gives me some compelling evidence that the Bible has been changed massively, why would I believe that? Is this not reasonable?

I know there are a lot of other arguments like earthquakes destroying military bases, or scientific miracles in the Koran. That doesn't matter if you cannot come close to proving that the Bible has been changed. The Bible is the standard. I'm not interested in any other arguments about Islam until you prove to me ,even vaguely, Judiasm used to be Islam, that Jesus was a Musilim

Sniper Piper
2004-06-05, 08:40
Ever read the English Quaran ? Not even comparable to the Bible. Read Psalms 22 sometime and tell me if thats just a song sung by a Jewish King in a Palace or a Prophecy of the Crucifixion....mind you, this is 500 yrs before the Christ shows up!

Zman
2004-06-05, 15:55
What is this English Quran? Is this a Quran or a Bible?

Craftian
2004-06-05, 19:51
What's so amazing about Psalms 22?

Sniper Piper
2004-06-06, 03:31
quote:Originally posted by Craftian:

What's so amazing about Psalms 22?

Little advice....

Dont ever try to be Rocket Scientist...ok