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Mojo Hojo
2004-07-11, 01:36
Interesting thought occured to me. If I was to say what I believed in you would ask for proof, and expect me to say to 'trust' my words instead of requiring proof. What I would really do is ask you to come over to my house and show you in an undeniable way irrefusable proof, but I do not 'trust' you with the information of my full name or address. So you don't trust me with what I say, and I don't trust you with my proof or information.

In conclusion; a good deal of us are distrusting of others, and this is what causes division between people, as much as I believe that I know the truth, somebody else can say they know the truth, but we will not cooperate to find the 'true' truth or make a compromise.

Mojo Hojo
2004-07-13, 01:16
Come on! Aren't even idiots going to comment on this?

Phrensied Rabbits
2004-07-13, 01:31
Do you know the truth?

Mojo Hojo
2004-07-13, 01:33
^^^ Yay, a human! No, the bar says [56% Complete] and then it says [Estimated Time: 5 years] So I still need time but am halfway through.

ArmsMerchant
2004-07-13, 02:27
Sometimes when I share some of my expewriences with, say, discarnate entities (I'm a professional shaman and psychic reader in addition to being an arms merchant--one pays the bills, the other feeds my soul), and folks ask me to prove my assertions.

I know what I have seen and done, but can no more "prove" it than I can really prove that I fed my cat this morning. One either accepts or does not accept.

Well, okay, you could always ask the cat. Bad example.

Gustave
2004-07-13, 05:01
I trust in myself enough to believe in my faith in my trust. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Oh, and if you live close, I'll come over and watch you download por---, I mean "The Truth". http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

Tyrant
2004-07-13, 06:42
I doubt that atheists disregard the claims of theists because they don't 'trust' them, in the broadest sense of the word. I think it's merely a lack of personal understanding, especially rooted in the fixation of understanding religion as anima (physical, external identities and beings) rather than numen (experience).