I love worshipping satan. Is there anything darker?

Cthulhu Fthagn!

Cthulhu Fthagn!!

Cthulhu Fthagn!!!

You are so fucking gay.

At least I am not a tryhard 'dark melancholic servant of darkness!!!'... fag.

'Please, someone give me some tips on how to make myself seem darker and cooler... c'mon... please... I'll blow you... in fact, you can even suck my mother's penis'.

Screw you, wannabe!

why would somebody worship satan what you think your going to get some extra credit hell points, nope he's going to torture you like every other soul in hell were you'll be forever and so on, then you'll think to yourself why i worship this guy

and hell torture is worse anything somebody on earth can do to you

*laughs uncontrollably*

O, that's good stuff...

Cheers,

Lost

quote:Originally posted by Durell:

'Please, someone give me some tips on how to make myself seem darker and cooler... c'mon... please... I'll blow you... in fact, you can even suck my mother's penis'.



Listen to the Smashing Pumpkins http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

quote:

nope he's going to torture you like every other soul in hell were you'll be forever and so on, then you'll think to yourself why i worship this guy

and hell torture is worse anything somebody on earth can do to you



Sorry to break this to you, but Hell is on earth!

quote:Originally posted by Electron:

why would somebody worship satan what you think your going to get some extra credit hell points, nope he's going to torture you like every other soul in hell were you'll be forever and so on, then you'll think to yourself why i worship this guy

and hell torture is worse anything somebody on earth can do to you



#1. Some people from Satanism who claim to worship Satan do not worship the bibliecal vresion. If I may quote; "Most Satanists do not accept Satan as an anthropomorphic being with cloven hooves, a barbed tail and horns. He merely represents a force in nature - the powers of darkness which have been named just that becaue no religion has taken these forces OUT of the darkness. Nor has science been able to apply technical terminology to these forces. It is an untapped resivoir that few can make use of because they lack the ability to use a tool without having to first break down and label all the parts which make it run. It is this incessant need to analyze which prohibits most people from taking advantage of this many faceted key to the unknown - which the satanist chooses to call "Satan"." - Satanic Bible by Anton Lavey, 1976 edition.



Though, the thread starter is not a true satanist because within his first post, he already broke some of the most basic rules of Satanism; the nine satanic sins.

1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.



I myself am not a satanist, but I do not want anyone to give a religion a bad name, especially one based off human instincts and not "Jesus loves you, but he only came to save certain people, sorry".



Edit:

Oh, And to the thred starter, yes there is. Devil Worship does not call Satan "Satan", they deem that wrong. They call him Lucifer or just "Devil", as well as they have a habit of human sacrifice and blood sacrifice unlike Satanism. So by your own wording, you are nothing more then an illadvised Satanist.

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so who ever worships him is still going to hell

stupid christian fuck.^^

The Process, that is, or was, pretty dark.

quote:Originally posted by Godsends:

I love worshipping satan. Is there anything darker?

Try worshipping god but with your eyes closed.

Look,

Not everyone's view of Hell is the same. Hell may be a great place. Think about it - Lucifer is an angel and everything, as is all his followers. Maybe he wanted to create his own Heaven, maybe he wanted a different place, where there isn't one God. Hell doesn't have to be some place of great evil. You all need to get out more often, seriously. Read some books.

ModelFifteen

lol what is it with oyu peo-ple and worshipping your dark lords? i mean comon, sure they MAY exist but what i can tell you does exist is hte dark energies of the universe, worship that instead!

quote:Originally posted by NewModelFifteen:

Look,

Not everyone's view of Hell is the same. Hell may be a great place. Think about it - Lucifer is an angel and everything, as is all his followers. Maybe he wanted to create his own Heaven, maybe he wanted a different place, where there isn't one God. Hell doesn't have to be some place of great evil. You all need to get out more often, seriously. Read some books.

ModelFifteen

To re-enforce this idea:

quote:

Even with all their threats of eternal damnation and soul roasting, christian missionaries have run across some who were not so quick to swollow their drive. Pleasure and pain, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. So, when missionaries ventured into Alaska and warned the Eskimos of the horrors of Hell and the blazing lake of fire awaiting transgressors, they eagerly asked: "How do we get there?"!

quote:Originally posted by NewModelFifteen:

Look,

Not everyone's view of Hell is the same. Hell may be a great place. Think about it - Lucifer is an angel and everything, as is all his followers. Maybe he wanted to create his own Heaven, maybe he wanted a different place, where there isn't one God. Hell doesn't have to be some place of great evil. You all need to get out more often, seriously. Read some books.

ModelFifteen

you are a fucking retard, a retard

^^

No, you're the retard. But I give you one point for not spelling it "retart" or "retarted" like so many others on Totse.



quote:Originally posted by Gyhth:

To re-enforce this idea:



Even with all their threats of eternal damnation and soul roasting, christian missionaries have run across some who were not so quick to swollow their drive. Pleasure and pain, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. So, when missionaries ventured into Alaska and warned the Eskimos of the horrors of Hell and the blazing lake of fire awaiting transgressors, they eagerly asked: "How do we get there?"!



That's awesome. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

With all due respect (which is precious fucking little), you are wasting your time. Satan is a myth.

And the whole concept of Dark Religions is bogus, merely another manifestation of the dualistic fallacy.

In a sense, ALL organized religions are "dark," however, inasmuch as they tend to stifle individuality and free will.

quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:

With all due respect (which is precious fucking little), you are wasting your time. Satan is a myth.

And the whole concept of Dark Religions is bogus, merely another manifestation of the dualistic fallacy.

In a sense, ALL organized religions are "dark," however, inasmuch as they tend to stifle individuality and free will.

'The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist.' http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)



ModelFifteen

And the greatest trick the clergy ever pulled was convincing people that he did.

quote:Originally posted by Dark_Magneto:

And the greatest trick the clergy ever pulled was convincing people that he did.

Well, one fair turn deserves another. But was it really the clergy? Didn't the disciples have something to do with that, or The Messiah(Back off if your a Jew plz)? It's all got to come about some way or another, right? Perhaps this angle is trite.



ModelFifteen

BOOGER!

-Hail Eris

quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:

[B]With all due respect (which is precious fucking little), you are wasting your time. Satan is a myth.|/b]

What makes you say that ?

Lack of existence.

Oh...you haven't seen him, felt him, touched him, or experienced him in any way shape or form, therefor he must not exist.

Clever !

To be logical, a physical satan and everlasting lake of fire and anguish goes completely against jesus's boundlessly loving god of the new testement. however it meshes pretty damn well with the genocidal, maniacal(word???) god of the old testament.

as to "dark" energies, it is doubtful. Energies exist, without a doubt, shamans and wisemen from almost every culture on earth has manifested them somehow. But to call energies "dark" implies that they have a source, this source would be "dark", but because I don't believe there is a satan/devil/or any other physical epitamy of evil, then these energies can't be called "dark". perhaps if the energies are used in a way to harm others or further an agenda of evil then yes they become "dark", but they are not inherently that way.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Oh...you haven't seen him, felt him, touched him, or experienced him in any way shape or form, therefor he must not exist.

Clever !

Wait, there's more:

It is undetectable, and therefore an unfalsifiable hypothesys and the only support for the notion exists in a complilation of old outdated religious texts written by people that didn;t posess 1/100'th of the knowledge that we do today.

What would be the criteria for falsification of the proposition that there are Devils? In other words, if there wasn't Devils, how could one show that?

Well formed, objective statements about reality, usually have some criteria of falsification. If the statement "There are Devils." doesn't have any criteria for falsification, then there are reasons to think that the statement is not a well-formed, objective statement about reality.

I will expand a bit on my above point.

What I'm asking is this. What would it take to prove that there was no such thing as Devils?

"If you can show "_______", than that would be evidence against their being Devils."

If you can't fill in that blank with some criteria, then the statement that there are Devils seems to be without content since no matter what the evidence was you would still believe in Devils.

It's the siren song of bullshit. The same line of thinking that permits the existence of undetectable unconfirmable no-logical-reason-to-suspect-they-exist Devils also allows for any other number of mythical creatures, such as Unicorns, Dragons, Goblins, Trolls, Loch Ness monsters, ad infinitum.

I find that we are kindred spirits, DM.

Yeh, it goes against his so called "boundless loving". Well done, you've pointed out one of the many tired and countless incosistencies and contradictions in the bible.

Nevertheless, Jesus wasn't such a lovely gentle loving compassionate man. He reffered to non-jews as gentiles. He called them rabbid dogs and chased them away when they came to him for help or lessons. He only taught to jews. He claimed there would be no mercy when he came back for vengeance, no mercy for pregnant or nursing women. That children would be ripped and cut to peices infront of their parents and women would be raped and ravaged in front of their men and loved ones.

He said he came to bring the sword to humanity, to spark conflict amongst nations, to divide single races, to turn father against son, daughter in-law against mother-in law. It is "JESUS" who created the lake of fire and jebus who throws people in it.

yeah, all of that is true in a biblical sense, but the most important thing in reading the bible is context context context. yes it is true that the bible says that jesus says these things, you can't take it all for truth. Remember it was a bunch of old jews who wrote this stuff, and depending on the book, anywhere from 40-300 years after his death, so it can be quiet skewed. You must also remember that these writers were writing to a specific audience, so if they felt that through fear and threats they would convince people, then they would use it. You must understand the jewish mindframe at that point, jews were really into appeasing god, and punishment for not, so those ideas really mesh with a lake of fire and whatnot, except taht ancient jews didn't even believe in a heaven or hell.

anyway back to context. many times in a chapter jesus will say things that go completely against what is said only a few paragraphs down. One must consider when jesus says something along the lines of "don't judge your brother, lest you be judged" and then only a page later says something like "you shall all be judged" doesn't really mesh (i know it was a bad example, but i hope you get the point), you've gotta say, "ok, the latter statement doesn't work with the former, it is probably the author taking some poetic license or the way he wrote it for his audience."

So you must conclude that the second statement is wrong because it doesn't work with jesus' idea of omnibenevolance.

or if your cynical and negative you could say that jesus' idea of love doesn't go with his everlasting punishment. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)