The holidays in Christianity are named after the Gods of Asgard, the days of the week are named after the Gods of Asgard, their place of rest for those who don't reach glory is named after the Asatru's place of rest for those who don't reach glory. Christianity's creation story is similar to the Asatru story (Especially the names of the first 2 humans). Both religions have a major trinity in their relationship to humans (Father, Son, Ghost for Christianity; Odin, Vili, and Ve...three brothers for Asatru). I just see so many things in Christianity that are derived from the Norse mythos, and a few things taken from it, and a few thing similar to it.

You are correct, although a lot of Christianity is taken from other faiths, as well.

They had to do it, it was the only way they could gradually take over the beliefs of the Norse.

Scandinavia was pretty much a conversion by the sword.

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"Easter" was stolen from Astaroth. Originally known as "Ashtar." This holiday coincides with the Vernal Equinox of spring when day and night are of equal length. Known as "Eastre" to the Anglo-Saxons. As the Goddess of fertility, she was associated with rabbits and eggs. The xtians stole this holiday and twisted its meaning. Other names include: Easter Eastre Eos Eostre Ester Estrus (Estrus is when an animal goes into heat; mating season) Oestrus Oistros and Ostara. Again, the "Lamb of God" was stolen from the Zodiac sign of Aries the Ram which occurs every spring.



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MORE ON EXPOSING CHRISTIANITY

THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE XTIAN RELIGION

"It has served us well, this myth of christ"

-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)*

THE MYTH OF THE RESURRECTION:



The resurrection is a common theme found in numerous completely different religions throughout the world. Symbolic of a descent to the underworld and a later return. Ishtar's/Inanna's descent and return (she was resurrected from the dead), Osiris, Siva's death and resurrection, Persephone's descent into the underworld and return, the list goes on and on and is based upon the seasons. The dark half, dead part of the year (winter) and the light half, growing season of the year (summer). This theme has been repeated over and over again in nearly every religion preceding xianity. Xianity is a very new religion in comparison to other religions it stole from that predated it by thousands of years.



THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES:

Anu, Enlil and Ea- the xtian church stole their "God the Father," "God the Son" from this one.

Bel-Saturn, Jupiter-Bel, and Baal-Chom.

Brahma, Vishnu and Siva

Mithra, Varuna and Indra

Jupiter, Juno and Minerva

Osiris, Isis, and Horus

Three-bodied goddess Hecate

Three-headed Scylla

Triune divinities of the Cabiri.

Three-headed Dog, Cerberus

Judaism, xianity and Islam (the three religions of monotheism)

Taoism: the trinity San Qing (Three Pure Gods). Yu Qing (Jade Pure) Shang Qing (Upper Pure) and Tai Qing (Great Pure)

Monju Bosatsu, Fugen Bosatsu and the historical Buddha called the "Shaka Trinity" (SHAKA SANZON)

Ka ( Spirit or Ether), Ba ( Body), and the Ankh (Immortality)

Tamas (Stability) Sattwa (orderliness) Rajas (Restlessness) from the "Guna" Sanskrit translation

Artemis, Aphrodite and Hecate

Kore, Persephone and Demeter

Shen (Spirit), C'hi (Vitality) and Ching (Essence) the three treasures of Taoist Wai Tai (internal alchemy)

Alpha, Omega and Iota

The Devil's Trident

The list can go on and on and on and on. This starts to get to be a joke. Of course, we can't forget the father, the son and the "holy ghost."

The nazarene's crucifixion/execution is a repeat- nothing new.

Other Gods who were crucified or executed that predated this fictitious character are as follows:

Krishna of India, 1200 BCE

Buddha, 600 BCE. There is also a striking similarity here- the nazarene was hung from a tree (Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree." I Peter 2:24 "24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.") Buddha sat beneath a tree and experienced a rebirth, kind of ressurection.

Not to get off the subject of the execution here, but "The Latin cross was not a part of xianity until the 7th century and not fully acknowledged until the 9th century. Primitive churches preferred to represent the nazarene with the lamb. The lamb, by the way is another stolen symbol. The sacrificial lamb of Easter is represented by the sign of Aries the Ram." (which begins on March 21st of every year). The Lamb was also carried by Hermes and Osiris." In addition, Odin, Krishna, Marsyas, Dodonian and Zeus also hung from trees. Set was “crucified” on a “cross” known as a furka -From the book "The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects" by Barbara G. Walker, Page 54.



Tammuz of Syria, 1160 BCE

Wittoba of the Telingonese, 552 BCE

Iao of Nepal, 622 BCE Iao is often spelt "Jao" sound familiar? This is the root of the hebrew god "Jehova."

Hesus of the Celtic Druids, 834 BCE. Note the similarity of "Hesus" with "Jesus."

Quetzacoatl of Mexico 587 BCE

Quirinus of Rome 506 BCE

Prometheus 547 BCE "In the account of the crucifixion of Prometheus of Caucasus, as furnished by Seneca, Hesiod and other writers, it is stated that he was nailed to an upright beam of timber to which were affixed extended arms of wood, and that this cross was situated near the Caspian Straits."

Thulis of Egypt, 1700 BCE

Indra of Tibet, 725 BCE

Alcestos of Euripedes, 600 BCE

Atys of Phrygia, 1170 BCE

Crite of Chaldea, 1200 BCE

Bali of Orissa, 725 BCE

Mithra of Persia, 600 BCE

The above list was taken from the book "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" by Kersey Graves, Sixth Edition- 1960

XTIAN HOLIDAYS HAVE BEEN STOLEN AS WELL. ALL COINCIDE WITH PAGAN HOLIDAYS AND NOTED TIMES OF THE YEAR.



"Easter" was stolen from Astaroth. Originally known as "Ashtar." This holiday coincides with the Vernal Equinox of spring when day and night are of equal length. Known as "Eastre" to the Anglo-Saxons. As the Goddess of fertility, she was associated with rabbits and eggs. The xtians stole this holiday and twisted its meaning. Other names include: Easter Eastre Eos Eostre Ester Estrus (Estrus is when an animal goes into heat; mating season) Oestrus Oistros and Ostara. Again, the "Lamb of God" was stolen from the Zodiac sign of Aries the Ram which occurs every spring.

December 25th, xmas is getting to be a joke. Coinciding with the Winter Solstice and the Yule season, the shortest day of the year, the birthdate of the Persian God Mithra, the Roman Holiday of Saturnalis. The tree, decorations, baking, gifts and celebrating have NOTHING to do with the nazarene. These are carry-overs from Pagan celebrations. Here is an informative link covering the many Pagan Gods associated with and celebrated around or on December 25th

All Saint's Day corresponds with Halloween

Assumption Day coincides with Lammas Day of the Summer Solstice

XTIAN VESTMENTS AND THEIR WITCH/SORCERER PARALLELS:

The Cincture is a parallel to the Witch's Cord or Girdle

The Alb is a Ceremonial Robe

The Bishop's Miter is a copy of the Ancient Egyptian Crowns of the Gods and the Pharaohs

The Crosier represents the sorcerer's blasting rod and bears a strong resemblance to the Ancient Egyptian Crook



THE XTIAN ALTAR IS SET UP NEARLY IDENTICAL WITH A RITUAL ALTER FOR WITCHCRAFT:

The usual xtian mass/service makes use of the following:

The Bell

The Incense burner/Thurible

The Candles

The Host

The Book

The Chalice filled with wine

Oil

Yet, in spite of this, the xtian church murdered enmasse, those accused of being witches, sorcerers and those of Pagan religions.

THE SORRY JOKE OF XTIAN SACRAMENTS:

With xtian sacraments, it is obvious they are bogus. One can come and go as one pleases and they have no meaning. Of course this stands to reason as they were all stolen. Some blatant examples:



Baptism with water





Confession- stolen from the Papyrus of the Royal Mother Nezemt



The Communion Host



During a mass or church service, the priest or minister recites the line of "Eat my body and drink my blood" for the blessing of the communion host/eucharist. This is a carry-over from sacrificial rites. The nazarene was a human sacrifice as well, so it is no suprise they would want to "eat his body and drink his blood." This is what the host and the wine represent- AGAIN- stolen from early Pagan rites. Many Pagan religions today, use small cakes, similar to the host in their rites.



"Holy Spirit"



This one took on a life of its own:





The "holy spirit" supposedly descended upon the apostles of the nazarene in tongues of fire:

Acts 2:2-4

2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

STOLEN from

"Ushnisha" is known as “flame of invisible light” sat upon the head of the Buddha or Buddhist holy man indicating divine intelligence.



The Rosary was stolen from Tibetan Mala Beads, used for meditation. The repetition of the "hail marys" and the "our fathers" are stolen from the East Asian Mantras. A Mantra is a word repeated over and over to focus the mind in meditation. "Ohm" is the most common. The robotic repetitious prayers recited over and over again in xtian churches are also corrupted imitations of mantras.



The church steeple is a copy of the Egyptian Obelisk, the only difference is the crucifix on top. We are all familiar with the Egyptian obelisk, such as "Cleopatra's Needle." This has a lot in common with the "Maypole." The "Maypole" was the symbol for the May King's phallus (erect penis). This is a symbol of fertility. On the eve of Beltane (April 30th), celebrants danced around the maypole. The original Egyptian obelisks were symbols of the phallus. They represented the erect organ of the earth God "Geb" as he lay on the ground trying to reach up to unite himself with the Goddess "Neith/Nut" of the overarching sky. Unbeknownst to most xians, their church steeple is a symbolic erect penis with a cross on top.



"Amen" when said at the end of xtian prayers was STOLEN as well. "Amen" was stolen from the Egyptian "Amon." "Amon RA."

The HALO was stolen from Hindu Gods and the Buddha. Both religions predated christianity by centuries.





Xtians venerating relics, ringing bells and burning incense are unwittingly imitating Hindu rituals that were established many centuries before judeo/christianity.

The praying hands were stolen as well. They are an ancient Yogic Mudra. There are statues of the Hindu Gods and also the Buddha with the praying hands known as the "NAMASTE MUDRA." The folded hands as well, a variation, is yet another mudra that was stolen. Mudras are used in meditation to connect the minor chakra circuits in the hands and fingers. Many Yoga asanas have these as well. Check any on-line images of Hatha Yoga postures. Yoga predates xianity. Note the halo on the image of the Buddha below as well.

The Saints took the place of the Old Gods in the Catholic religion as the pope used this replacement method for converting polytheists to monotheism. Ancient Pagan Temples were destroyed and razed by xtians and churches were built over these. Many of these temples were built on Ley Lines, especially in Europe. This was at first an attempt to encourage Pagan peoples to attend xtian masses, but when this did not work, other methods such as torture and mass murder soon followed.



Source: http://www.freewebs.com/see_the_truth/New%20Testament.html

This is how religions work. Myths evolve and change as they are told and retold, with different people putting emphasis on different things.

I defy you to find one single religion that does not use ideas present in another separate religion.

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The holidays in Christianity are named after the Gods of Asgard, the days of the week are named after the Gods of Asgard, their place of rest for those who don't reach glory is named after the Asatru's place of rest for those who don't reach glory. Christianity's creation story is similar to the Asatru story (Especially the names of the first 2 humans). Both religions have a major trinity in their relationship to humans (Father, Son, Ghost for Christianity; Odin, Vili, and Ve...three brothers for Asatru). I just see so many things in Christianity that are derived from the Norse mythos, and a few things taken from it, and a few thing similar to it.

Yes, you are most correct as is Gyhth.

They inherited some practices through Judaism, stole the imagery from Romanized Greek Hellenism, some ideas even from Buddhism. It's all very obvious if you know how to look.

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I defy you to find one single religion that does not use ideas present in another separate religion.

Scientology?

Scientology is classified as a business venture, not a religion.

One correction that I noticed, Amen was acctually stolen from Jewish ritual. It means, basically, ditto or I agree, me too ect, in Hebrew and was originally uttered by those that listened to a prayer so that they wouldnt have to recite it themselves.

Amen= it is finished

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One correction that I noticed, Amen was acctually stolen from Jewish ritual. It means, basically, ditto or I agree, me too ect, in Hebrew and was originally uttered by those that listened to a prayer so that they wouldnt have to recite it themselves.

No, 'Amen' is directly translated from Hebrew as 'So be It'. It is affirmation, which is close to what you were saying, but not exact.

"The word Amen is a Hebrew word meaning "So be it" or "May it be". If we say amen at the end of our prayer, we say: "May it be so." In other words, may what we prayed or said in our prayer be manifested or fulfilled." http://www.essex1.com/people/thedude/Common%20Questions/amen.htm

"Amen is derived from the root [aman], which means to be firm (i.e., permanent), and thus by implication, to be true or faithful. When we see the word Amen in scripture, it is indicating that which is truth, or said faithfully. It illustrates that which is of absolute certainty." http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/amen.html

"An expression used at the end of prayers, and meaning, So be it. At the end of a creed, it is a solemn asseveration of

belief. When it introduces a declaration, it is equivalent to truly, verily." http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/amen

It was not said to avoid repeating a prayer, it was an indication of agreement, which I think you touched upon.

just a few appendages:

I'm pretty sure Christianity stole some things from Zoroastrianism as well.

And Catholicism stole purgatory from Greek mythology.

This is why I don't believe in so called "organized religion".

Constantine did a lot to change Christianity.

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One correction that I noticed, Amen was acctually stolen from Jewish ritual. It means, basically, ditto or I agree, me too ect, in Hebrew and was originally uttered by those that listened to a prayer so that they wouldnt have to recite it themselves.

Holy fucking shit! A religion based around a Jew, started by Jews, focused on a Jewish understanding of God used Hebrew traditions. Quick, someone call the vatican!

The newly Romanised Christianity appropriated pagan holidays and traditions? More revelations! Gee, I guess no one would have seen that happen when a spiritual movement gets institutionalized and merged with existing thought!

Wow, this even gets better- revolutionary almost.. the startling parallels between Yeshua, Krishna and Bhudda. Bet no ones thought of that before. I mean its OBVIOUS that because christianity is a myth, that it is simply a hodge-podge elaboration of older religious myths.

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