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neosade
2004-08-26, 00:39
hey everyone, Im an aethiest and my girlfriend is highley christian, she knows Im aethiest but she doesnt like it, Her father said when we first started going out that I could only see her at church, I started going and are relationship has gotten a little broder since then. One thing she does not know is how much religion angers me, I almost cringe at some of the things they talk about during the semons, I really love her and I would never steer her away from her beliefs, But Ive become insecure because I fear that one day she will break up with me because of what I beleive, I told he that I respect her and the fact that she's christian but a long tim ago I asked her "would you ever break up with me because I dont beleive in god" she's usually brutally honest, so she said "...I dont know". That was a while ago, But I still hear from people about what they think of non-beleivers and like I said I hope she doesnt come to the conclusion that Im steering her the wrong way. Well my qeustion is what do you think I could tell her or do to make her more comftorable with the fact that I am an aitheiest. Ive told her I love her and I still go to church with her all the time, I've never told her my true views on religion in fear it would scare her away

any suggestions?

theBishop
2004-08-26, 00:48
brace yourself for a breakup.

neosade
2004-08-26, 01:05
hmmmmm, hell no! Im not going out like that, anything else?

theBishop
2004-08-26, 01:34
It's out of your control. The Christian view of dating is that we date in order to find the person we want to marry. And the bible is very clear that we should not marry non-believers.

Even if she wants to stay with you, if you really love her, you'd respect her beliefs and not encourage her to ignore her faith.

http://decapolis.com/faith_/pages/WhoShouldIDate.shtml

thebishop

UnknownVeritas
2004-08-26, 02:37
"Even if she wants to stay with you, if you really love her, you'd respect her beliefs and not encourage her to ignore her faith."

That just seems... horrible to me. I realize that Neosade seems fairly young (no offense, just an observation), but you never know, he could potentially live a long, happy life with this girl. Seems a little rash to throw away their possible future together simply because the "Bible says so". She may have strong faith in her beliefs, yet she must also have faith in others.

neosade
2004-09-22, 01:01
well, I havent replied to this thread in awhile since I posted it, I geuss because that was the answer I was expecting, But just so you know, I know this girl loves me and I know I love her. your right unknown I am pretty young, Im only 17, I do know that I used be quite the ladies man before I met this girl and trust me the feelings I get from her are unexplainable, Ive never felt this way about ANYONE. It does seem unfair

that because of are beleifs were not supposed to be together apparently, It bugs me that she's christian and it bugs her that Im athiest. We both seem to be dealing with it though, looking back I dont know if Im afraid as I was. I do respect her religion and she respects the fact I dont flake out on what I beleive to appease her. If it truly came down to it and I had to tell her I was "saved". I would. This girl means the world to me. I'd still like to hear what you'd all have to say

Spirit of '22
2004-09-22, 01:19
You are angered by religion yet are in love with a fundamentalist christian.

She loves Jesus and yet likely plays with the penis of a heathen before marriage.

Both are naive hypocritical young idiots who dont know what the fuck they are and just grasp at labels to find a place- realize this, discover a little bit, and work from there. If its the real deal, both of you will shed your bullshit phony exteriors.



Honestly, she cant possibly say she has fiath in Jesus Christ and his commandments and Book and do anything sexual with you before marriage, so, obviously she is NOT serious about her faith at all. It is just convenient and difficult to disassociate from her homosexually religious parents.

WolfinSheepsClothing
2004-09-22, 06:52
quote:Originally posted by neosade:

hey everyone, Im an aethiest and my girlfriend is highley christian, she knows Im aethiest but she doesnt like it, Her father said when we first started going out that I could only see her at church, I started going and are relationship has gotten a little broder since then. One thing she does not know is how much religion angers me, I almost cringe at some of the things they talk about during the semons, I really love her and I would never steer her away from her beliefs, But Ive become insecure because I fear that one day she will break up with me because of what I beleive, I told he that I respect her and the fact that she's christian but a long tim ago I asked her "would you ever break up with me because I dont beleive in god" she's usually brutally honest, so she said "...I dont know". That was a while ago, But I still hear from people about what they think of non-beleivers and like I said I hope she doesnt come to the conclusion that Im steering her the wrong way. Well my qeustion is what do you think I could tell her or do to make her more comftorable with the fact that I am an aitheiest. Ive told her I love her and I still go to church with her all the time, I've never told her my true views on religion in fear it would scare her away

any suggestions?



Compromise: both of you become apathetic agnostics.

neosade
2004-09-22, 16:55
quote:Originally posted by Spirit of '22:

You are angered by religion yet are in love with a fundamentalist christian.

She loves Jesus and yet likely plays with the penis of a heathen before marriage.

Both are naive hypocritical young idiots who dont know what the fuck they are and just grasp at labels to find a place- realize this, discover a little bit, and work from there. If its the real deal, both of you will shed your bullshit phony exteriors.



Honestly, she cant possibly say she has fiath in Jesus Christ and his commandments and Book and do anything sexual with you before marriage, so, obviously she is NOT serious about her faith at all. It is just convenient and difficult to disassociate from her homosexually religious parents.

Excuse me did I say were having sex? No I didnt and were not, How dare you be rude about this, Im serious as fucking hell is to her. I might not know shit about religion but she is the most religious and sweetest girl Ive ever seem, I suggest you shut your mouth and give me some actuall advice instead of putting me down. you obviousley know nothing about PEOPLE

Spirit of '22
2004-09-23, 00:29
I did say, "Likely."

And if you havent had sex with her, I doubt you really know what youre talking about yet. You are obviously too young for these issues.

Besides, I gave you advise, dumbass- I told you, tell her she is obviously not that religious, or else she wouldnt be with you, so clearly she makes you more of a priority than Jesus.

neosade
2004-09-23, 05:07
quote:Originally posted by Spirit of '22:

I did say, "Likely."

And if you havent had sex with her, I doubt you really know what youre talking about yet. You are obviously too young for these issues.

Besides, I gave you advise, dumbass- I told you, tell her she is obviously not that religious, or else she wouldnt be with you, so clearly she makes you more of a priority than Jesus.

okay what your saying is because I havent had sex with her then I cant love her? yet you also say that sex out of wedlock is hydonistic? let me ask you a qeustion, how do I get to the point of marriage without loving her? your starting to sound like a dumbass yourself. The advice your giving me doesnt make sense either, How am I a bigger priority to her then "jesus". I can understand you saying something like that if we had sex or fooled around or I told her that she couldnt go to church or something. The whole point of my thread was to try and find something to make her more comfortable to tell her to make her less worried about my beleifs, how in the hell am I bigger priority than her god. Another thing please do not tell me what I do know and dont about love, You have no Idea how positive I am. If I didnt I wouldve been long gone, trust me.

Spirit of '22
2004-09-23, 11:36
Ok this whole thing smells of an Avril Levigne styled high school idiot romance gone wild.

The fact remains at the end of the day, neither of you is willing to leave the other, despite any conflict of ideology. (enter the high school crap- how can you call yourself any genuine anything if you are in LOVE WITH the embodiment of all the values you hate?)

So yeah, screw advise. I demand to know. How canyou HATE christianity but absolutely love a girl who is entirely Christian? If you hate this and that idea and value, how can you say you love a person who follows those ideas and those values strictly?



I am betting, and, get back to me in 5 years after being embarassed by this whole episode, that what you are calling love is a teenaged sublimation of just really, really wanting to have sex with her. Because logically, you cannot love a christian if you hate christianity, because a christian IS christianity on two legs with a beating heart. That means you are in love with the incidental about her, her smile, her laugh, her body, her charm, whatever. All girls have this. Find one who is not incompatible, without an objecting father, and you will forgot this girl existed in 2 months.

Lucky
2004-09-23, 23:43
quote:Originally posted by neosade:

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Why dont you become a little bit more open minded to what they are saying. You dont have to change your belief but if you at least seem open to new ideas maybe she wont dump you. I just find it hipocritical how many atheisests say that christians are so close minded but when you try to talk to them they close thier minds. If we all opened out minds to each other maybe there would be less tension among us.

Irrylath
2004-09-24, 06:54
I hate you so goddamned much, Neosade. I hope Bart eats your eyes while you sleep, you fat, smelly bastard.

Oh, and learn to spell, waste of skin.

dead_people_killer
2004-09-24, 07:04
The title of this topic sounds like the beginning of a bad joke or something....

The aethiest and the christian walk into a bar....

Dark_Anarchy
2004-10-19, 09:57
I always check if the girl is christian first, if she is, then pass - if she isnt, then go right ahead. thats how i avoid the problem.

Axiom
2004-10-19, 12:06
Is this a common problem? How often does it come up?

The fact that something can get between two people (17 is still young btw.) so as to separate them is sickening. Religion like Drugs should be in moderation.

You know, you are diagnosed as an addict (Alcohol or Drugs) when it interferes with your work or home life creating negative effects. It appears to have negatively impacted your home life...

You girlfriend may have a serious health issue on her hands. Just like alcoholics and drug abusive people it sounds like she inherited this behaviour from her parents...

Tyrant
2004-10-19, 15:12
Rape her.

She'll insist that there is no God, she'll see that you were right the whole time, and the ned'n will be yours to command.

Trust me. Chicks dig it.