Jesus this, God that, has it actually not occured that it is actually a load of crazy drug induced Hocus. It is the primitive explanation of a new dawn by a new civilisation. WE DO NOT NEED IT ANYMORE! We now have Science to do the explaining. For instance that Judas chap he musta went to heaven as he was needed to initiate the whole JC dying thang. So he was either being bad for good or the whole thing has more holes than even my cousin.

To say no more God, is like saying no more life.

What you learn about life you are learning about god.

So leave this place, and live life.

Edit: And don't listen to anyone who says "God is this". Go and find out for yourself. The answers are found in yourself and can be uncovered through life experience.

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quote:Originally posted by EvilDrSquid:

WE DO NOT NEED IT ANYMORE!

It's an age-old argument that will never go away. Get used to it. As long as there are differences in beliefs, there will always be religious debates and multiple theories on god.

Fool, you better recognize.

Fool? FOOL? Well Violent Femme why are there so many different explanations? Every tribe and group of people of this planet have all made up their own little "All conquering forces of demonic supremacy" story. I can see were it comes from the closest thing that we could have to a Deity is the rise and fall of the Sun, The change of the seasons and how everything man made and emergant is intertwined together. But BUT this does not alter the original point, The whole lot is utter crackpot lunacy, yet still people want to beleive, do they need a crutch or somthing?

To say no more God, is like saying no more life.

What you learn about life you are learning about god.

So leave this place, and live life.

Jesus H, You've seen Akira too many times. To Deny God would indeed be to deny the history of just about everywhere and what has shaped the human race to be be the shitty flaps it is, as our history is imtimatly woven with religion.

Take animals for instance, they do not learn about life i.e hating mondays, they are not dumb enough to think up this bollox but they survive and that is how you get a 10/10 a++ score in life.

Your hinting upon some sort of spirituality, i.e. Excepting the world and yourself the way it is. YOU DONT NEED A FUCKING CHRIST TO DO IT. If we stopped teaching our kids this shit maybe they would'nt grow up thinking its okay to hate people on the basis of irrelavent things.

Yes, EvilDrSquid, they DO need a crutch. Realize that many people cannot even fathom going through life without religion, and even though it sounds as absurd to me as it seemingly does to you, that doesn't make it any less real to them. "Shushing" them isn't an option, and I wouldn't take it even if it were.

i pity the Fool who supports censorship in any way, shape or form.

quote:Originally posted by EvilDrSquid:

Jesus this, God that, has it actually not occured that it is actually a load of crazy drug induced Hocus. It is the primitive explanation of a new dawn by a new civilisation.

You are pretty insiteful, to think that the "new dawn" is the "light".

There have been people throughout the ages that disagreed with God's Word and disbelieved in God's existance, yet you proclaim that present day civilization knows the truth.

quote: WE DO NOT NEED IT ANYMORE! We now have Science to do the explaining. For instance that Judas chap he musta went to heaven as he was needed to initiate the whole JC dying thang.

Harvard Professor and evolutionist, Steven Jay Gould, "Facts do not 'speak for themselves'; they are read in light of theory."

As to "that Judas chap", what does this have to do with science and its explainations?

quote:So he was either being bad for good or the whole thing has more holes than even my cousin.

This is a theological debate, however, God said that He made evil with the good. He also said that He is the Judge, so maybe Judas was Heaven bound or maybe Hell is his destination.

And if you think that there are more holes in it than your cousin, either your cousin is hermetically sealed or there is more studying to be done.

Once again, someone realizes the Bible is crap and rejects God. Organized religion is not about God, it is about control. Christianity especially, is a religion of fear and denial, and has precious little genuine spirituality, especially as it is practiced today by clueless rich white folks.

"yet you proclaim that present day civilization knows the truth"

No i did not. I implied that the christian explanation for the existance of the universe and everything is what i would expect from somone completly misinformed and naive as to how the world works. Well now we have science, based on FACT hard indesputable FACT. The point about J. Iscariot? just a point to point out the point that it is complete crap (EXCEPT the bit about being nice to one one another and being friends) Contradictory crap. The sea partint? Talking bushes? Feeding 5000 hungry folk with 5 loaves and 2 fishes COME ON! gimme a break!

I would be far more tolerant of this jabberthwocky if it would except that it is ethereal fantasy and NOT try and tout it as truth.

"Steven Jay Gould, "Facts do not 'speak for themselves'; they are read in light of theory." "

Tings DO speak for themselves Gravity, the process of evolution indeed the FACT of god almost sounds resonable in light of the earth being flat.

What are you saying 'bout ma cousin bein a hermaphrodite?

Yep, science has really solved all our problems. Thanks to science, we now know why we're here. Thanks to science, we now know how the universe came to be. Thanks to science, we now know what happens after you die.

Thank you science for clearing all that up for us. You fucking douche.

theBishop

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Thanks to science, we now know why we're here. Thanks to science, we now know how the universe came to be. Thanks to science, we now know what happens after you die.

Yeah we do know why we are here, to endure, to proliferate and continue then we die. Your body rots and you cease to exist in a physical sense, living only in peoples memorys.

Now i suppose you think your the big clever man because you just replied the fundamental philosophical questions Who, What, Why, When and where. and i suppose if i dont provide a satisfactory explanation im going to be wrong? Well Bishopbasher Science has gone a lot further to explain whom and what we are than you or your fucking Deity So it gets my vote you mother hubbard tamforp wertnopler

Incorrect. Science has done exactly the same amount as religion: Nothing. There is no physical proof for the bibles claims, and there is only speculation from science.

In the regard of providing answers to the key philosophical questions, we are all guessing.

quote:Originally posted by EvilDrSquid:

Your hinting upon some sort of spirituality, i.e. Excepting the world and yourself the way it is. YOU DONT NEED A FUCKING CHRIST TO DO IT. If we stopped teaching our kids this shit maybe they would'nt grow up thinking its okay to hate people on the basis of irrelavent things.

quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:

And don't listen to anyone who says "God is this". Go and find out for yourself. The answers are found in yourself and can be uncovered through life experience.

GOD just gives all of the fucktards somthing to beleve in, i say if they want to beleve in some bull shit that keeps them at home and of the street, good for them and now you come along imposing your belefs on other people, they arnt going to listen, you say that he is not real and science proved that, they say that god made science so that people could better understand there enviroment, just get a life and stop worring about what other people beleve (yes i know what my thread sayed, but since then i have changed)

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