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yomammasfatass
2004-09-17, 00:54
god teaches us to be humble, and to treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated e.t.c. but then he says 'you will worship no god but me' and 'god is all powerful' and then you learn that lucifer was cast out of heavon for trying to be equal with god!?

so it looks to me that gods pride made hell possible.

comments? suggestions? reasonable explanations?

Social Junker
2004-09-17, 01:05
Prepare to be flamed.

ArmsMerchant
2004-09-17, 01:19
Once more someone seems to be confusing the bullshit in the Bible with the real deal.

God is nothing like the pathetic, petty and arbitrary deity as portrayed in the Bible.

If you can't get into gnosticism for yourself, read Conversations with God.

inquisitor_11
2004-09-17, 02:16
Conversations with God? are you serious???

meh... frankly I think God can *generally* do whatever he wants. We can try and come up with explainations for stuff like this but, generally, they tend to not to be too satisfying.

But seriously- all people are created equal. But, should the created be seen on the same level as the creator?

xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-17, 04:12
quote:Originally posted by yomammasfatass:

god teaches us to be humble, and to treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated e.t.c. but then he says 'you will worship no god but me' and 'god is all powerful' and then you learn that lucifer was cast out of heavon for trying to be equal with god!?

so it looks to me that gods pride made hell possible.

comments? suggestions? reasonable explanations?



Hypocrite n. 1. a person who pretends to have virtue, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc. that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. 2. a person who feigns some desirable or publically approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, ot statements belie his or her public statements.

God telling us to be humble is not hypocritical...If He had said that He is humble, would be. But He does not say that He is humble (atleast, as God, the Father is concerned). Jesus, when He was here in the flesh, did humble Himself (both to the Father and to man), so that was not hypocritical either.

He is The Most Holy. He is The Soveriegn Creator. Even of Lucifer. Why should we be so arrogant and arrogate, to feel He should be humble to us?

Digital_Savior
2004-09-17, 05:18
God has the right to ask that His creation worship only Him. This does not make Him lack humility, it gives Him what is rightfully His...our admiration.

When did Lucifer try to be "equal" with God ? You must have read that in an Anne Rice novel. It was his PRIDE that got him his one way ticket out of Heaven. Have you even read Genesis ? I am not being critical...that was an honest question. Either you misinterpretted it, or you haven't read it.

How can God be prideful ? He is God. He created all things. He is the ruler of the universe, so He doesn't require pride.

Think about it...

Why are you so angry at Him ? Have you tried reading the New Testament FIRST ?

That is what I would suggest. I couldn't even STOMACH the Old Testament until I had read the New. If you do this, you will understand what I mean.

Good luck to you, and God bless you in your endeavors to find the truth.



[This message has been edited by Digital_Savior (edited 09-17-2004).]

dearestnight_falcon
2004-09-17, 09:26
Umm... honestly, that is a pretty pathetic example of hippocracy in the bible...

I mean... thou shalt not kill...

But drowning the world, killing all the first-born of Egypt, ordering the extermination of opposing people...

I suppose you could say that god created life, so he has the right to take it away, but it still leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

Moses too... after the "Cow Incident" he went and killed hundreds of other Isralites.

But hey... each to their own.

I'm fine with Christians, as long as they don't try to make THOSE parts of the bible central to their faith *cough* Phelps *cough* when it should really be the Gospels.

The_Rabbi
2004-09-17, 11:59
quote:Originally posted by yomammasfatass:

god teaches us to be humble, and to treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated e.t.c. but then he says 'you will worship no god but me' and 'god is all powerful'

That's because he's GOD, you dipshit.

And guess what? YOU'RE NOT.

That's why.

I don't buy it either, but for a different reason. That's why it's okay, though.

inquisitor_11
2004-09-17, 15:09
quote:Originally posted by dearestnight_falcon:

Umm... honestly, that is a pretty pathetic example of hippocracy in the bible...

I mean... thou shalt not kill...

But drowning the world, killing all the first-born of Egypt, ordering the extermination of opposing people...

I suppose you could say that god created life, so he has the right to take it away, but it still leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

Moses too... after the "Cow Incident" he went and killed hundreds of other Isralites.

But hey... each to their own.

I'm fine with Christians, as long as they don't try to make THOSE parts of the bible central to their faith *cough* Phelps *cough* when it should really be the Gospels.

Either way... in this framework for understanding God- it's God that made us mortal in the first place- death is a given, it's all just a matter of how and when. In the last instance, an omnipotent/omniscient God is the one doing the deed.

Edit:spelling



[This message has been edited by inquisitor_11 (edited 09-17-2004).]

neX
2004-09-17, 15:13
quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

But seriously- all people are created equal. But, should the created be seen on the same level as the creator?

Yes satanism is that, to be a god and equal to satan himself

yomammasfatass
2004-09-17, 16:15
meh im out of my depth already.

oh and im not angry with god, i was simply stating some observations.

and what i meant by hypocrite was someone who says not to do something then does it themselves.

---Beany---
2004-09-17, 20:14
FFS. Whatever negative things you believe/hear about god are not true.

Thing of the most perfect thing possible. That is god. If you manage to think of something negative, then that is a misunderstanding on your part.

edit: Idiotic spelling mistake.

[This message has been edited by ---Beany--- (edited 09-17-2004).]

inquisitor_11
2004-09-18, 03:17
"sunshine, lollypops, and rainbows everywhere..." theology

Digital_Savior
2004-09-18, 05:45
quote:Originally posted by neX:

Yes satanism is that, to be a god and equal to satan himself

Satan shares equality with you no more than God does.

Though God outranks Lucifer, Lucifer will ALWAYS be higher in the food chain than you.

And he hates you, God's precious creation. He fulfills the desires of your flesh, in order to lull you into obedience and submission.

But in the end the facade will be obliterated, and you will be writhing in the Lake of Fire, just like the rest of the pagans.

It's not too late to grow up, neX. Even if you don't follow God's path, this is CERTAINLY the worst way to go, of them all.

bpr14
2004-09-18, 06:51
quote:Originally posted by yomammasfatass:

god teaches us to be humble, and to treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated e.t.c. but then he says 'you will worship no god but me' and 'god is all powerful' and then you learn that lucifer was cast out of heavon for trying to be equal with god!?

so it looks to me that gods pride made hell possible.

comments? suggestions? reasonable explanations?

The people who wrote the crap wanted to make the people they hated sound evil,like pagans, who were good people, plus they need a way to control people. And by saying if you don't people in our god, we'll burn you ass at the stake. Now thats getting flamed old school.

dearestnight_falcon
2004-09-18, 10:05
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Satan shares equality with you no more than God does.

Though God outranks Lucifer, Lucifer will ALWAYS be higher in the food chain than you.

And he hates you, God's precious creation. He fulfills the desires of your flesh, in order to lull you into obedience and submission.

But in the end the facade will be obliterated, and you will be writhing in the Lake of Fire, just like the rest of the pagans..

Ouch...

The_Rabbi
2004-09-18, 10:17
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:



But in the end the facade will be obliterated, and you will be writhing in the Lake of Fire, just like the rest of the pagans.



Jesus is dead.

xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-18, 12:49
quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

"sunshine, lollypops, and rainbows everywhere..." theology

I'm not sure i understand you. Theology is the study of religion(s), and the interpretation of the doctrine of a religion.

Reguarding the Bible, it pretty much shows both sides of choice. In fact one prophet was not believed because he prophesied war and death to the people and captivity to the king, where as the other (false)prophets at the same time, said what the king wanted to hear. Basicallly, victory. This prophet-- (Jerimiah, i think... its early and im just waking up..still too much asleep to give this my 100%)-- made a point that all the prophets usually predicted war, famine, etc.

That dont sound like lollypops, but again, i am probably misunderstanding you.

neX
2004-09-18, 18:10
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Satan shares equality with you no more than God does.

Though God outranks Lucifer, Lucifer will ALWAYS be higher in the food chain than you.

And he hates you, God's precious creation. He fulfills the desires of your flesh, in order to lull you into obedience and submission.

But in the end the facade will be obliterated, and you will be writhing in the Lake of Fire, just like the rest of the pagans.

It's not too late to grow up, neX. Even if you don't follow God's path, this is CERTAINLY the worst way to go, of them all.

well look at this way your a christian you worship god and you want to be below him forever... as in me and other satanist we don't want to be sheep and below anyone we want to rule and be equal and have higher power. how do i know satan hates me? how do i know jesus loves me? you read shit out of a book and claim it as true. i admit satanism can be false but so far its the realest religion and i claim it as mine

yomammasfatass
2004-09-19, 01:22
im not sure what is true in the bible and what isnt, as it was probably commercialised in like the year 1000 to get more people to go to church or something. all i know is that i would much prefer to look up to someone like ghandi, who gave up all his possesions to live a humble life, than god, who keeps telling everyone hes better than them. i know this is true; he is better than anyone (if he actually exists, but thats for another thread), but why cant he just be humble about it? its not as if people wouldnt still look up to him and worship him.

xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-19, 11:08
quote:Originally posted by neX:

well look at this way your a christian you worship god and you want to be below him forever... as in me and other satanist we don't want to be sheep and below anyone we want to rule and be equal and have higher power. how do i know satan hates me? how do i know jesus loves me? you read shit out of a book and claim it as true. i admit satanism can be false but so far its the realest religion and i claim it as mine



The first part of your statement reminds me of Genesis chapter 3, but most specifically (this is the Serpent talking)

Gen 3:5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be as God, knowing good and evil."

"...you will be as God...", 'as' being the opperative word here.

As i understand, (most) Satanists do not believe in Satan. But, from what you just said... "below anyone we want to rule and be equal and have higher power"... this would be a god. So you believe in god{s} and aspire to be one, just like Eve. Now if you believe in god(s), why is it so hard for you to believe in THE One True God? (As has been said, "Even the devil believes in God's existance"). And if that God, is the God of the Bible, then is it impossible that He inspired the Bible. And if He inspired it, and He told us about Satan (among other things), then wouldnt He be the one telling the truth?

Later on in your post you said, " how do i know jesus loves me?" which also reminds me of a song...

"For the Bible Tells Me So"

I know this 'aint' a good reason for a non-believer, but what is a good reason to follow Satanism, what you describe as, "so far its the realest religion"?

inquisitor_11
2004-09-19, 14:04
quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

I'm not sure i understand you. Theology is the study of religion(s), and the interpretation of the doctrine of a religion.

Theos= God

therefore Theology= study of God

....no more semantics, I promise...

quote:

That dont sound like lollypops, but again, i am probably misunderstanding you. [/B]

Yes, yes you have...

neX
2004-09-19, 19:11
most satanists? you're probably refering to modern satanists[la veyan]

yes i believe in gods... the one true god? no the bible god is not the true god, he is a fake. why is it so hard for me to believe in this so called true bible god? first of all the book is stupid with all the contradictions and unexplained crap. he is not the real god so he cannot be telling the truth. hahaha exactly... its bullshit okay so... thats basically the same shit, the bible/song is telling you shit and your accepting it as a fact which is totally stupid. i follow satanism because its an old religion dating back to the first civilizations of sumeria... go to the other threads and find that link i posted about... sorry if what i'm typing is random at sometimes i can't really figure out stuff in my head too quick... because im only 15 hahaha

dearestnight_falcon
2004-09-20, 11:38
quote:Originally posted by neX:

most satanists? you're probably refering to modern satanists[la veyan]

yes i believe in gods... the one true god? no the bible god is not the true god, he is a fake. why is it so hard for me to believe in this so called true bible god? first of all the book is stupid with all the contradictions and unexplained crap. he is not the real god so he cannot be telling the truth. hahaha exactly... its bullshit okay so... thats basically the same shit, the bible/song is telling you shit and your accepting it as a fact which is totally stupid. i follow satanism because its an old religion dating back to the first civilizations of sumeria... go to the other threads and find that link i posted about... sorry if what i'm typing is random at sometimes i can't really figure out stuff in my head too quick... because im only 15 hahaha

Ok... your 15, you can't use even the simplest of punctuation, you claim to be a "satanist", and that the bible God is a "fake".

Has it ever occured to you that the bible might have been written by multiple authors over several hundred years, and then finally put together (although not everying put in), and that it might contain spiritual truths cloured by the veiws and biases of the people who wrote the goddamn thing?

xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-21, 02:03
quote:Originally posted by neX:

why is it so hard for me to believe in this so called true bible god? first of all the book is stupid with all the contradictions and unexplained crap.

contradictions? where? i've only been shown apparent contradictions, but so far, after alittle study, it turns out not to be a contradiction.

unexplained stuff, sure--maybe, but that does not show that it is false--only unexplained.

if i told you that my wife had measmerizing eyes, unless you have seen 'measmerizing eyes', it would be unexplained.