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Come one people. There are endless religion.s Yet many are pagan, or polythesic, I hate that word. Plus many do thing that Christain would be appaled by. Yet we all claim to be right.
And explain who one divine prophet got the message from his gods that his religon was right, yet Jews/Christains claim that they got a sign from god saything there is one good.
Nothing makes sense, everything contradicts itself, and there is still a 0 amount of physical proof of anything for any religions.
And why the Bible is not a source people:
But wait! There was a battle that was described in the Bible and they found and stone from a different culture statting the same battle, all the details the same! That confirms the Bibles truth.
Wrong. A big battle, or something of that nature, is obviously gonna be described. Really. Of course the Bible has some historical importance. Yet must of it is not.
Stop wasting your lives people. And yes you can have moral without a belive in higher beings. In fact I think I start my own cult. We'll worship doornobs. I'll make a 1000 page holy book one how doornobs created all and are the sumpreme force in the universe.
I think I said everything I needed to say, for now...
Social Junker
2004-09-18, 07:15
The differences between religions are sometimes blown out of proportion. People like to argue about the differences between religions, sometimes they forget what they have in common.
Read The Hero with the Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell, which explores the common myths of humanity.
MasterPython
2004-09-18, 08:31
quote:Originally posted by bpr14:
and there is still a 0 amount of physical proof of anything for any religions.
You would think something like this (http://www.crystalinks.com/milkmiracle.html) would be good enough to convince alot of people.
That is the closest thing to physical evidence that anyone has seen for centuries.
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Loc Dogg
2004-09-18, 09:10
This (http://www.bensys.mcmail.com/Islam.htm) is pretty convincing. These (http://mohahmbas2.topcities.com/miracles/story0.html) are also convincing.
dearestnight_falcon
2004-09-18, 10:18
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
You would think something like this (http://www.crystalinks.com/milkmiracle.html) would be good enough to convince alot of people.
That is the closest thing to physical evidence that anyone has seen for centuries.
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Yeah... thats pretty cool.
Not enough to make me a Hindu though.
pelando cumbre
2004-09-18, 16:25
quote:Originally posted by bpr14:
Come one people. There are endless religion.s Yet many are pagan, or polythesic, I hate that word. Plus many do thing that Christain would be appaled by. Yet we all claim to be right.
And explain who one divine prophet got the message from his gods that his religon was right, yet Jews/Christains claim that they got a sign from god saything there is one good.
Nothing makes sense, everything contradicts itself, and there is still a 0 amount of physical proof of anything for any religions.
And why the Bible is not a source people:
But wait! There was a battle that was described in the Bible and they found and stone from a different culture statting the same battle, all the details the same! That confirms the Bibles truth.
Wrong. A big battle, or something of that nature, is obviously gonna be described. Really. Of course the Bible has some historical importance. Yet must of it is not.
Stop wasting your lives people. And yes you can have moral without a belive in higher beings. In fact I think I start my own cult. We'll worship doornobs. I'll make a 1000 page holy book one how doornobs created all and are the sumpreme force in the universe.
I think I said everything I needed to say, for now...
actually they are all fairly similar. they all deal with the same higher beings, just different interpretations. more similarities than differences. we're all in this together..
travelling on different paths to (the summit) and eventually we'll all share the same view
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theBishop
2004-09-19, 00:26
My religion is the correct one.
pelando cumbre
2004-09-19, 01:39
along with all the others
Anyone with a moderate knowledge of either Carl Jung, Julius Evola, or Joseph Campbell is aware of religious synchronicity.
Mike Dogg
2004-09-19, 03:31
My God can beat the shit out of your God.
Digital_Savior
2004-09-19, 07:31
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
You would think something like this (http://www.crystalinks.com/milkmiracle.html) would be good enough to convince alot of people.
That is the closest thing to physical evidence that anyone has seen for centuries.
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Why hasn't this been reported on by REPUTABLE news stations ?
A picture does not convince me of anything, though it IS possible.
Lucifer has made it an ART to copy God, and miracles are not exempt from replication.
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MasterPython
2004-09-19, 08:27
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Why hasn't this been reported on by REPUTABLE news stations ?
1. It probably got a nice thirty second blurb on CNN like all the other miricles. It was also nine years ago. I was ten at the time and was really not following the news.
quote:
A picture does not convince me of anything, though it IS possible.
2. I have seen video. And thousands of people all over the world saw it first hand.
quote:
Lucifer has made it an AT to copy God, and miracles are not exempt from replication.
You belive that Ganesh can't make his statues drink milk but Satan can?
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Social Junker
2004-09-19, 08:36
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Lucifer has made it an AT to copy God, and miracles are not exempt from replication.
So, what you're saying, basically, is that all other world religions are Lucifer's attempts to "copy God"?
Digital_Savior
2004-09-19, 08:43
quote:Originally posted by Loc Dogg:
This (http://www.bensys.mcmail.com/Islam.htm) is pretty convincing. These (http://mohahmbas2.topcities.com/miracles/story0.html) are also convincing.
This (http://img53.exs.cx/img53/5633/Suicide.jpg) is pretty convincing.
So is this (http://www.northjersey78.com/pics/flag-big.jpg) one.
And then there is always THIS: http://www.travisdart.com/photoshop/newsweek.jpg (wouldn't let me hotlink, so don't click on it, just copy and paste it into your browser)
Or this (http://www.gondtc.com/~donaldhardy/locks2.jpg).
And just for fun: Click HERE (http://jerry.geenpunt.nl/moth.jpg), and http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SgD***EXxaJjOHMCCFNWgJcT0OfEjgP9V3CRA61M7xWvZeMzs ltyCCSXP5fAD47TsC7f4CwOR8!PYzwQ8qubz!u2Nc4qsMfhoyA QpYR3FZsT!CW2mEIGkg/lifesaver.jpg?dc=4675458959789 (I couldn't get this one to work properly, so I had to post the whole confounded link. Gonna hafta cut and paste this one, too. It's worth it !)
http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
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Digital_Savior
2004-09-19, 08:47
quote:Originally posted by Social Junker:
So, what you're saying, basically, is that all other world religions are Lucifer's attempts to "copy God"?
EXACTLY.
Actually, they aren't attempts. Satan DOES copy God.
I can give MULTIPLE examples, if you'd like.
The best way for him to infiltrate the world was to convince humans that he didn't exist. (yes, it's from a movie, but OH, SO TRUE !!)
quote:Originally posted by theBishop:
My religion is the correct one.
quote:Originally posted by pelando cumbre:
along with all the others
Yeah. Ya see Christians think there religion is the right one. Yet that just say all the others are fine when in reality they are going everywhere trying convert people.
One of the worst sins is worshiping idols along with belief in more than one god so aren't all the polythesic people our there evil?
Let me guess, "Well, they're still good people..." Say I was a good Christain, but suddenly I converted to Hindu. I would be looked upon as a sinner, no?
Social Junker
2004-09-19, 09:24
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
EXACTLY.
Actually, they aren't attempts. Satan DOES copy God.
I can give MULTIPLE examples, if you'd like.
The best way for him to infiltrate the world was to convince humans that he didn't exist. (yes, it's from a movie, but OH, SO TRUE !!)
Okay, I guess I have another question then, does this fact make followers of other world religions "followers of Satan"? (for lack of a better term)
It's just I've known so many Christians, including the ones I went to church with, say if you're not following God, you're following Satan. Despite all the good things other religions have brought into this world, they consider those religions as inspired by Satan, and therefore evil.
Is it not conceivable that we're all getting at the same universal truths, but we're each just expressing it in a different way?
Just a thought.
Sure, I'd like to see some examples, you've got me interested.
xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-19, 09:54
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
You belive that Ganesh can't make his statues drink milk but Satan can?
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Digital Savior said this, "Why hasn't this been reported on by REPUTABLE news stations ?
A picture does not convince me of anything, though it IS possible.
Lucifer has made it an ART to copy God, and miracles are not exempt from replication.
Although, i think she may have wanted to highlight "POSSIBLE" instead of "IS"
xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-19, 09:58
quote:Originally posted by bpr14:
Let me guess, "Well, they're still good people..." Say I was a good Christain, but suddenly I converted to Hindu. I would be looked upon as a sinner, no?
Yes, you would be, and are... along with me, and all Christians, in fact, all people.
"All have fallen short of the Glory of God"
xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-19, 10:22
QUOTE Originally posted by Social Junker:
Okay, I guess I have another question then, does this fact make followers of other world religions "followers of Satan"? (for lack of a better term)
Yes, Social, in a way.
Mt 12:30 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who doesn`t gather with me, scatters.
Mt 12:31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
Mt 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
Is it not conceivable that we're all getting at the same universal truths, but we're each just expressing it in a different way?
Mt 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened to you.
Mt 7:8 For everyone who asks receives. He who seeks finds. To him who knocks it will be opened.
Mt 7:12 Therefore whatever you desire for men to do to you, you shall also do to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
Mt 7:13 Enter in by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter in by it.
Mt 7:14 How narrow is the gate, and restricted is the way that leads to life! Few are those who find it.
Mt 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep`s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
Mt 7:16 By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
MasterPython
2004-09-19, 11:01
^^^ Why did't your God do anything to spread his teachings to places other than the Middle East and Europe for hundreds of years?
Why would he condem millions of people to Hell without ever giving them a chance to hear about Jesus?
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MindGutter
2004-09-19, 11:16
http://www.lemonparty.org
after seeing that.. there is no god.
xtreem5150ahm
2004-09-19, 11:34
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
^^^ Why did't your God do anything to spread his teachings to places other than the Middle East and Europe for hundreds of years?
Why would he condem millions of people to Hell without ever giving them a chance to hear about Jesus?
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I dont know. I've wondered about this myself.
If you will permit me, i'll give you my guess/opinion.
There is a couple of places in the Bible, that allude to "if you dont know [(either because of location, death at birth, mental disorder)(my commentary, not the bible's)], less will be 'judged' of you".
Another of my thoughts on this, is that we are God's "pottery" that He allows us to help make ourselves, and if He is not satisfied with the finished product, it would be His perogative {sp?) to do what ever He deems as right.
This is only my speculation. It might be God's way, and it might not be.
I have another theory on this matter, but it is much worse than the speculation, with absolutely no biblical support, so i wont mention it.. at least not here and now... that would be for private discussion (not nessesarily w/ anyone in TOTSE), because if it were close to right, it would really throw people off the mark.
quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:
Yes, you would be, and are... along with me, and all Christians, in fact, all people.
"All have fallen short of the Glory of God"
Thats messed up. I would still be a good person, and maybe I would feel Hindusim is the correct path. Christain do belive there the best, any everyone thinks that. And belief in one god compared to hundreds of gods, how is that similar?
ALL religions have something good to offer, not necessarily the same little things either.
Instead of complaining about it, why dont you take the best bits that your 500 religions tried to teach you and amalgamate them?
Your religion would be pretty awesome in my eyes.
Dead Helmsman
2004-09-20, 15:45
It's hardly uncommon for one tribe to make another tribe's god into it's own devil. Cultural elitism is as old as mankind.