So, last night I had a religious experience. I had been drinking Carlo Rossi and smoking just enough grass to be good at videogames all day long. Some time last night I read a thread in SG that got me thinking about religion. I started thinking about the relationship between the Tanakh and God and about our individual & collective obligations under our covenant with God.

It's hard to describe how I felt. I felt like the things I was thinking or more specifically the thought processes I was using were in some way correct or holy. I felt a mystical or trancendant connection with the universe. I prayed. I don't really know a proper way to go about prayer, so I acknowledged God as the architect of the universe, apologized for not living as well as I ought to, and thanked God for everything. Then, I picked up a book on Jewish belief and practice that I had set aside for a while and read some bits about the time between Rosh Hoshana & Yom Kippur and some parts on the Torah.

I was raised without religion. It just wasn't a part of my family. I've been flirting with the idea of becoming a Jew for quite a while. I'm trying to figure out what to draw from this experience. I'm normally more of a skeptic, believing that the existance of God is unknowable, and that hasn't changed. Still, I felt something indicating that the ineffable ought to have a greater presence in my life.

I don't want to attribute everything to simply being wasted, because I've been wasted plenty of times in the past and never experienced something like this; However, I have to take into account that I most certainly was intoxicated, and I wonder if that somehow cheapens things.

I'd appreciate any thoughts from folks who have more experience in actually experiencing religion.

quote:Originally posted by beatmeofficer:

I don't want to attribute everything to simply being wasted

It annoys me when people think that what you say is of no value if you are drugs at the time. I've had some of my best realisations whilst on drugs.

I remember the exact moment that I felt a connection with the universe, or god or whatever it was. It was fucking awesome. I was camping with some mates and when we went to bed I decided to sit in my car and write. I was looking out of the window at the trees and into the sky. It's as if I was receiving love from some outside source. Amazing. I started writing down loadsa stuff about what I felt and what I believed. Years down the line the stuff I wrote seems very immature, but there was a foundation in them that built into more mature understandings.

I'm not sure if it would have been your thought process that was correct or holy, but you might have been in a state of consciousness that could experirence life in a more truthful way.

Anyway, my advice is to not bother joining any religeon. With or without religeons there are ways to get to god. Religeons are just different ways to reach god (Some lousy).

The best religeon is life and life experience, but it is useful to investigate all religeons. You notice paterns between each of them and you find yourself having loads of awesome realisations.



[This message has been edited by ---Beany--- (edited 09-19-2004).]

your on drugs shut the fuck up

quote:Originally posted by neX:

your on drugs shut the fuck up

You're an angsty little "satanist" twerp, shut the fuck up.

quote:Originally posted by neX:

your on drugs shut the fuck up

neX;

Try this. Contribute or shut up.

A religeous experience is valid no matter what the state of mind the believer is in (Although most christian sects entertain the idea that drugs open the mind to demonic attack).

If i believed in God then I would have to believe that God has the ability to meet with us, or (speak to our hearts/conscience) regardless of our level of faith, intellegence or worthiness.

Consider this.

"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares."

Romans 2:12-16



[This message has been edited by Vindicatus (edited 09-20-2004).]

That doesn't mean their opinions are worthless, I had an experience on E that I will never forget. I was sitting in a small park like area, surrounded by bushes. I remember thinking 'Wow! Everything's so beautiful!' But then I stopped for a moment and realised that I wasn't hallucinating, everything was actually beautiful. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

quote:Originally posted by beatmeofficer:

So, last night I had a religious experience. I had been drinking Carlo Rossi and smoking just enough grass to be good at videogames all day long. Some time last night I read a thread in SG that got me thinking about religion. I started thinking about the relationship between the Tanakh and God and about our individual & collective obligations under our covenant with God.

It's hard to describe how I felt. I felt like the things I was thinking or more specifically the thought processes I was using were in some way correct or holy. I felt a mystical or trancendant connection with the universe. I prayed. I don't really know a proper way to go about prayer, so I acknowledged God as the architect of the universe, apologized for not living as well as I ought to, and thanked God for everything. Then, I picked up a book on Jewish belief and practice that I had set aside for a while and read some bits about the time between Rosh Hoshana & Yom Kippur and some parts on the Torah.

I was raised without religion. It just wasn't a part of my family. I've been flirting with the idea of becoming a Jew for quite a while. I'm trying to figure out what to draw from this experience. I'm normally more of a skeptic, believing that the existance of God is unknowable, and that hasn't changed. Still, I felt something indicating that the ineffable ought to have a greater presence in my life.

I don't want to attribute everything to simply being wasted, because I've been wasted plenty of times in the past and never experienced something like this; However, I have to take into account that I most certainly was intoxicated, and I wonder if that somehow cheapens things.

I'd appreciate any thoughts from folks who have more experience in actually experiencing religion.

Your religious experience was probably some meditation, i usually do quite well when i have some thc and alcohol in me, i have thought about alot of stuff you all are talking about.