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princecharmant1980
2004-10-08, 22:21
if i kill 1000000000 people can god forgive me because Jesus died for me in the cross?
Social Junker
2004-10-08, 22:24
For what I understand, he forgives you for all sins when you believe in Jesus Christ.
But, I believe there are some sins in Catholicism that can only be absolved by the pope.
Vindicatus
2004-10-08, 22:27
If you can find a way to kill more people than currently walk the Earth then you deserve to go to heaven regardless.
Did you mean to say 1 Trillion?
God only forgives those who forgive themselves.
princecharmant1980
2004-10-08, 22:33
quote:Originally posted by Vindicatus:
If you can find a way to kill more people than currently walk the Earth then you deserve to go to heaven regardless.
Did you mean to say 1 Trillion?
God only forgives those who forgive themselves.
so i can kill all these people and then ask god oh forgive me and then i'll go to heaven COOOOOOOOOL
princecharmant1980
2004-10-08, 22:34
quote:Originally posted by Vindicatus:
If you can find a way to kill more people than currently walk the Earth then you deserve to go to heaven regardless.
Did you mean to say 1 Trillion?
God only forgives those who forgive themselves.
i was refering to the earh population in 3245
MasterPython
2004-10-08, 23:23
quote:Originally posted by Social Junker:
But, I believe there are some sins in Catholicism that can only be absolved by the pope.
Like what?
"Like what?"
oh, i dont know....maybe CHILD MOLESTING!?!?!?!
wait, nevermind....
Social Junker
2004-10-09, 00:27
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
Like what?
For example, excommunications offences must be absolved by a more senior official or a priest that has permission from a senior official.
So I guess the term "senior official" could apply to the Pope.
The following offenses incur ipso facto (automatic) excommunication:
-Apostasy
-Heresy
-Schism
-Desecration of the Eucharist
-Physical force against the Pope
-One who actually procures an abortion and all accomplices
-Priest who absolves a partner in adultery
-Priest who directly violates the sacramental seal of confession
-Both parties to the consecration of a bishop without a Papal mandate.
Interdict is excommunication for the layperson.
Certain offenses incur an automatic interdict:
-Physical violence against a bishop
-Attempting to preside over or concelebrate in Mass while being a deacon or lay person
-Hearing and/or attempting to absolve confessions while being a deacon or lay person
-Falsely accusing a priest of soliciting adultery while in confession
-Attempting to marry while having a perpetual vow of chastity.
Shiantar
2004-10-09, 01:22
quote:Originally posted by princecharmant1980:
so i can kill all these people and then ask god oh forgive me and then i'll go to heaven COOOOOOOOOL
There's a difference between asking a question because you're interested, and asking a question just to point out what you think is wrong with the answer you already know.
We could sit here and argue what's wrong with Christianity, what's wrong with Islam, what's wrong with atheism, etc. until we were both blue in the face -- it wouldn't mean anything because neither you nor I are about to change what we believe (or why we believe) just because somebody points out something we don't like.
Sarcasm is a tool for use by children.
Why don't you post something useful for a change?
P.S. In regards to your question, you're missing the point -- both Christianity and Islam say that repentance must be sincere and, to be frank, anybody who goes and kills a great number of people probably knew that every single murder was wrong and did it anyway -- those kinds of transgressions are hard for human and God alike to forgive.
princecharmant1980
2004-10-10, 23:28
quote:Originally posted by Shiantar:
There's a difference between asking a question because you're interested, and asking a question just to point out what you think is wrong with the answer you already know.
We could sit here and argue what's wrong with Christianity, what's wrong with Islam, what's wrong with atheism, etc. until we were both blue in the face -- it wouldn't mean anything because neither you nor I are about to change what we believe (or why we believe) just because somebody points out something we don't like.
Sarcasm is a tool for use by children.
Why don't you post something useful for a change?
P.S. In regards to your question, you're missing the point -- both Christianity and Islam say that repentance must be sincere and, to be frank, anybody who goes and kills a great number of people probably knew that every single murder was wrong and did it anyway -- those kinds of transgressions are hard for human and God alike to forgive.
i already argued with you and since you already judged that i'm narow minded i suggest that you post elsewhere
Shiantar
2004-10-11, 02:17
quote:Originally posted by princecharmant1980:
i already argued with you and since you already judged that i'm narow minded i suggest that you post elsewhere
Suggest all you like.
Suggestions that you get a life and stop posting these pointless religious themes don't seem to have any effect on you -- so why should any similar suggestion mean anything to me?
Hexadecimal
2004-10-11, 03:42
This forum is devoid of tact. Prince: Shut up with the stupid fucking questions when you already know the answer. You're not proving a point. According the the Bible, IHVH is all loving and infinitely kind...it can forgive any crime of any magnitude.
quote:Originally posted by princecharmant1980:
i was refering to the earh population in 3245
Don't worry. There won't be any muslims in 3245.
B-12 Bandit
2004-10-12, 07:24
The Pope will sick the Opus Dei on ya.
ancient femine /Priory of Sion
prince charles
2004-10-12, 17:17
quote:Originally posted by princecharmant1980:
if i kill 1000000000 people can god forgive me because Jesus died for me in the cross?
Well look at how many tyrant popes there have been who have killed so many in the name of christ.
LostCause
2004-10-13, 07:07
I'm closing this thread simply because you annoy me and I can.
Watch me.
Cheers,
Lost