LostCause
2004-11-03, 00:37
Before I even begin this chapter I'd like to say that I think it's rather peculair that the first recorded death (biblically speaking) was a murder.
That does say something about the human race.
1 And Ad'am know Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Eve is thankful to god for her son Cain even though god did all kinds of fucked up shit to them. ???
Also, I want to point out that they spell a lot of the names with wierd hyphens and dashes that I'm going to leave out from here on. You don't need them (I don't think) and they're annoying me.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keep of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
The "but" sort of connotates that tilling the ground is a less desireable job than keeping the sheep.
3 And in the process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel, and to his offering;
5 But unto Cain, and to his offering, he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Cain is upset that god didn't like his gift. That all makes sense.
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it cam to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brothers keeper?
The first use of sarcasm. Okay, I found that amusing...
10 And he said, Wast hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
Refers to the earth as a female. Hmmm...
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strenght; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
So, god condemns Cain to a life of wandering alone, but takes pity on him and puts an unidentified mark on him to warn people not to kill him because if they do they will be punished (I assume by god) sevenfold.
Now, sevenfold is a pagan reference, I do believe, but I can't remember which one. Anyone know where the term "sevenfold" comes from?
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Okay, I thought they weren't in Eden anymore! I thought they'd all been cast out. O, but I guess that was only Adam. Okay, so "the land of Nod" is in the east of Eden.
I was also taught that The Land of Nod was simply a mental state of eternal wandering. Like a drifter or something, you unable to settle down to you wander The Land of Nod.
Anyways...
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch; and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
I thought he was condemned to wander alone? He couldn't very well be alone if he has a wife, and he doesn't wander if he's built a city. So, there you go: god apparently does change his mind.
Who is the unnamed wife, though?
18 And unto Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begat Mehujael; and Mehujael begat Methusael; and Methusael begat Lamech.
Let me break this down for you: Cain-Enoch-Irad-Mehujael-Methusael-Lamech. That's 5 generations right there, which means at least 400 years have passed.
19 And Lamech took unto him two wives; the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
They don't mention Cain's wife, but they mention Lamechs... May be they didn't mention Cains wifes name because she was a sister or something and it was an embarrassment.
20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of suck(sp) as have cattle.
21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
I have no idea what any of that means, except for that's a 6th generation there. So, Cain has a buttload of grand and great grandchildren by now. Does anyone know what this might mean?
22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron; and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech; for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
Lamech has killed two men and one was particularily young. But, what do you think "to my wounding" and "to my hurt" mean?
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
Why 77 folds? Does this suggest he killed Cain and because he's a grandson of Cain his punishment will be worse? But, why exactly 77 folds?
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called him Seth; For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Okay, piece of the puzzle missing... So, Cain killed Abel and now Eve has another guy who is unnamed so far, of whom she bore Seth with.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enose: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Recap: Cain kills Abel and is cast into the Land Of Nod in the east of Eden, to wander alone, but god changes his mind, gives him a wife, lets him settle down and build a city called Enoch. In the city of Enoch 6 generations pass; so some 500 years later Lamech kills Cain, but not before Cain has apparently already killed Adam. Eve, meanwhile, has met another husband (unnamed) and bore Seth.
Cheers,
Lost
That does say something about the human race.
1 And Ad'am know Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Eve is thankful to god for her son Cain even though god did all kinds of fucked up shit to them. ???
Also, I want to point out that they spell a lot of the names with wierd hyphens and dashes that I'm going to leave out from here on. You don't need them (I don't think) and they're annoying me.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keep of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
The "but" sort of connotates that tilling the ground is a less desireable job than keeping the sheep.
3 And in the process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel, and to his offering;
5 But unto Cain, and to his offering, he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Cain is upset that god didn't like his gift. That all makes sense.
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it cam to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brothers keeper?
The first use of sarcasm. Okay, I found that amusing...
10 And he said, Wast hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
Refers to the earth as a female. Hmmm...
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strenght; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
So, god condemns Cain to a life of wandering alone, but takes pity on him and puts an unidentified mark on him to warn people not to kill him because if they do they will be punished (I assume by god) sevenfold.
Now, sevenfold is a pagan reference, I do believe, but I can't remember which one. Anyone know where the term "sevenfold" comes from?
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Okay, I thought they weren't in Eden anymore! I thought they'd all been cast out. O, but I guess that was only Adam. Okay, so "the land of Nod" is in the east of Eden.
I was also taught that The Land of Nod was simply a mental state of eternal wandering. Like a drifter or something, you unable to settle down to you wander The Land of Nod.
Anyways...
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch; and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
I thought he was condemned to wander alone? He couldn't very well be alone if he has a wife, and he doesn't wander if he's built a city. So, there you go: god apparently does change his mind.
Who is the unnamed wife, though?
18 And unto Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begat Mehujael; and Mehujael begat Methusael; and Methusael begat Lamech.
Let me break this down for you: Cain-Enoch-Irad-Mehujael-Methusael-Lamech. That's 5 generations right there, which means at least 400 years have passed.
19 And Lamech took unto him two wives; the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
They don't mention Cain's wife, but they mention Lamechs... May be they didn't mention Cains wifes name because she was a sister or something and it was an embarrassment.
20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of suck(sp) as have cattle.
21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
I have no idea what any of that means, except for that's a 6th generation there. So, Cain has a buttload of grand and great grandchildren by now. Does anyone know what this might mean?
22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron; and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech; for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
Lamech has killed two men and one was particularily young. But, what do you think "to my wounding" and "to my hurt" mean?
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
Why 77 folds? Does this suggest he killed Cain and because he's a grandson of Cain his punishment will be worse? But, why exactly 77 folds?
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called him Seth; For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Okay, piece of the puzzle missing... So, Cain killed Abel and now Eve has another guy who is unnamed so far, of whom she bore Seth with.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enose: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Recap: Cain kills Abel and is cast into the Land Of Nod in the east of Eden, to wander alone, but god changes his mind, gives him a wife, lets him settle down and build a city called Enoch. In the city of Enoch 6 generations pass; so some 500 years later Lamech kills Cain, but not before Cain has apparently already killed Adam. Eve, meanwhile, has met another husband (unnamed) and bore Seth.
Cheers,
Lost