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---Beany---
2004-11-06, 13:24
Everyone knows that there are large walls that seperate one religeon to the next.

One many says "This religeon book is the true word of god", and the next man says this is.

I haven't studied the book of every religeon, but I know enough to realise that there are some books that go into more depths than others.

It makes me wonder why we have different religeons, and I was once told that the life you are born into is perfect for your progression at that time of life. In other words, key important lessons can be found in all areas life. Important lessons can be found from A: Living with rich parents, B: Living in a country of famine, C: Fighting in a war, D: Living with sever family problems, etc.

To master life you only need to learn the lessons that life puts in front of you, but people sometimes lose their purpous in life. They lose interest in life and wonder what the point is.

This is where religeous texts comes in. Guides to put you back on track, each with a similar incentive (Heaven, nirvana, ultimate happiness, etc), but different people are at different stages of growth, so each person will need a different guide book to point them in the right direction.

In other words, if you put someone who is young in front of a book that explains the intricities of consciousness, the ego, etc, they won't have a clue what it all means, and if you put someone who has grown to near perfection, it won't help them much being given a book that teaches basic morals.

Therefore there shouldn't be a big wall the divides religeons. They should be seen as guides for people who are at different stages of growth.

And if you feel like you can master life without a religeon, then go enjoy yourself. Just know that if you ever lose your way there are always spiritual teachings on offer that can put you back on track.

xtreem5150ahm
2004-11-06, 15:34
quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:

To master life you only need to learn the lessons that life puts in front of you...

This is where religeous texts comes in. Guides to put you back on track, each with a similar incentive (Heaven, nirvana, ultimate happiness, etc), but different people are at different stages of growth, so each person will need a different guide book to point them in the right direction.

Therefore there shouldn't be a big wall the divides religeons. They should be seen as guides for people who are at different stages of growth.

And if you feel like you can master life without a religeon, then go enjoy yourself. Just know that if you ever lose your way there are always spiritual teachings on offer that can put you back on track.

So what you are saying is: "Don't all religions lead to God?"

No, logically speaking, they could all be wrong, but they cant all be right. They directly contridict each other.

Christianity is based on what God has done for us, all others (to my knowledge) are based on what one has to do for God, or gods, or for enlightenment.

All religions are at odds when they believe many gods, one true god, or no god(s) whatsoever.

Also, how many religions say that their way is the only way? If there is many different claims to being the only way, then at best, only one could be correct.

To let my bias show through (in this post):

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)

And Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)

Eil
2004-11-06, 16:17
but that's not what he's saying...

he's saying that every religion has certain LIFE lessons that they deliver better than others... why not make ALL of these spiritual lessons available, instead of excluding them with dogma? by which i think he means, fuck god, gods, goddess, buddha, krishna, allah, jesus, and any other egotistical snobbish deity.

---Beany---
2004-11-06, 20:43
quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

No, logically speaking, they could all be wrong, but they cant all be right. They directly contridict each other.



Sure what each religeon demonstrates may contradict the next, but that's not important. What's important is that the follows of that particular religeon have something to work towards and learn lessons from.

There is a lesson to be leaned from the religeons that say "Kill the enemy", and there is a lesson to be learned from the religeons that say "Learn to love the enemy".

The highest of religeons are the ones that help you to learn the highest of lifes teachings, but unless you have reached that level of growth, you will find it hard to understand.

---Beany---
2004-11-06, 20:50
quote:Originally posted by Eil:

why not make ALL of these spiritual lessons available, instead of excluding them with dogma? by which i think he means, fuck god, gods, goddess, buddha, krishna, allah, jesus, and any other egotistical snobbish deity.

I don't mean that.

Deities aint egotistical. They are more like models for perfection. Being egotistical isn't a trait of a deity. It's a sign of ignorance. A deity is modest, that is, not thinking itself as being better or worse than anything else, but the same.

Eil
2004-11-07, 03:00
^that's a matter of interpretation.

but, if it's not better than anything else, then why is it a model for perfection?

[This message has been edited by Eil (edited 11-07-2004).]

---Beany---
2004-11-07, 07:19
quote:Originally posted by Eil:

but, if it's not better than anything else, then why is it a model for perfection?



I never said it wasn't better. I just said that a deity doesn't consider himself better than anyone else. Being more evolved (dunno if that's the best wording) doesn't make something egotistical.