lanceleader
2004-11-16, 21:45
here... have fun with this (loooong)little piece of the pie...
Emperorofthedawn [3:34 PM]: isn't it fun when you want to play jesus? but they pick you to be pilate instead?
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: who, me?
Emperorofthedawn [3:34 PM]: rhetoric...
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I would never play Jesus
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I only get to be led by him
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I can't do anything in the natural
Emperorofthedawn [3:35 PM]: at least nobody is a samaritan...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: maybe not but lots of pharisees
Emperorofthedawn [3:36 PM]: hehehe... but they get cool hats... and the money...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: and death
Emperorofthedawn [3:36 PM]: we all get that...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: some to heaven them to hell
Emperorofthedawn [3:37 PM]: some of us just don't GET it, though...
hevnboundtooo [3:37 PM]: like?
Emperorofthedawn [3:37 PM]: oh... i don't know... some people just don't GET death... don't understand it...
hevnboundtooo [3:37 PM]: true
hevnboundtooo [3:38 PM]: and are afraid of it
Emperorofthedawn [3:38 PM]: no fear here...
hevnboundtooo [3:38 PM]: here either, I know where I am going
Emperorofthedawn [3:38 PM]: i can tell you, i don't know... i am not worried though...
hevnboundtooo [3:39 PM]: what? you can tell me what?
Emperorofthedawn [3:39 PM]: where i am going... i don't know, but i'm not worried...
hevnboundtooo [3:40 PM]: if you believe you are saved, the scriptures say!!!!!! if you are saved it is like Paul said, you are absent from the body, present with the Lord
Emperorofthedawn [3:41 PM]: i do not believe in blind faith, but i do believe i am saved...
hevnboundtooo [3:41 PM]: what do you mean, blind faith
Emperorofthedawn [3:42 PM]: i don't feel like a christian... i disagree with many things... but i do not believe that i will burn for it...
hevnboundtooo [3:43 PM]: possibly you are not learning the correct info. about God's word
Emperorofthedawn [3:43 PM]: possibly i am being used by god
hevnboundtooo [3:43 PM]: maybe, but in what way?
Emperorofthedawn [3:43 PM]: could be anything...
hevnboundtooo [3:44 PM]: you must have a particular thought in mind
Emperorofthedawn [3:44 PM]: nope...
Emperorofthedawn [3:44 PM]: just by virtue of my existence, by god's hand i will have an influence on my surroundings...
hevnboundtooo [3:45 PM]: He is not going to teach you to disagree with His word to be used as a testimony to anyone or to the Angels in heaven
Emperorofthedawn [3:45 PM]: and he didn't teach the assyrians to disagree either
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: How can you be an influence in your surroundings if you have nothing definite in you mind about what He wants from you.
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: And so what did the Assyrians gain?
Emperorofthedawn [3:46 PM]: sometimes donkeys talk
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: When you find one let me know
Emperorofthedawn [3:47 PM]: the assyrians gained death and destruction...
hevnboundtooo [3:47 PM]: so?
Emperorofthedawn [3:47 PM]: so israel could keep going...
hevnboundtooo [3:48 PM]: do you think that God put you here to be like them, gaining death and destruction, to Keep Israel going? God kept it going, not them, He allows living or death,
hevnboundtooo [3:48 PM]: we are free will agents
Emperorofthedawn [3:48 PM]: not always
hevnboundtooo [3:49 PM]: yes we are, we have the choice to follow Jesus's path, to learn to think with God or the other principalities of darkness
hevnboundtooo [3:49 PM]: But, faith comes by hearing the word of God
Emperorofthedawn [3:50 PM]: what do you thin kabout arafat's death, by the way?
hevnboundtooo [3:52 PM]: God has appointed each of us a time to live and a time to die, He is the giver of life, and has a perfect plan for us. He knew the exact time of death for Arafat, and no matter how, by who, or natural, God allowed it according to His plan
Emperorofthedawn [3:52 PM]: exactly
hevnboundtooo [3:52 PM]: so?
Emperorofthedawn [3:53 PM]: so what?
Emperorofthedawn [3:54 PM]: what do you think about the palestinians?
hevnboundtooo [3:55 PM]: They have always been after the land given to the Israelites. They have never recognized Israel, and want to be a separate state within Jerusalem, but according to the scriptures, they did not have that right to the land
Emperorofthedawn [3:55 PM]: why not?
Emperorofthedawn [3:56 PM]: only the jews have a right to that land
hevnboundtooo [3:56 PM]: Because of how the land was divided under God's direction to the Tribes of Israel
Emperorofthedawn [3:56 PM]: so there isn't really any difference between the palestinians and the assyrians...
hevnboundtooo [3:57 PM]: There is a difference of culture, but sameness in wanting power and what is not theirs to possess
hevnboundtooo [3:57 PM]: and they believe in a pagan god
Emperorofthedawn [3:58 PM]: what would you say if i said that i believe in a god with many faces?
hevnboundtooo [3:58 PM]: you would have to sit down and explain that to me
Emperorofthedawn [3:59 PM]: it's an abstract concept... there is only one god
hevnboundtooo [3:59 PM]: if it is abstract, what does that mean
Emperorofthedawn [3:59 PM]: one god does not have only one face...
Emperorofthedawn [4:00 PM]: i say that you and i believe in the same god.
Emperorofthedawn [4:00 PM]: we may not be able to agree on what we see, though, when we look at our god.
hevnboundtooo [4:01 PM]: The scriptures say, there is only ONE God,
Emperorofthedawn [4:01 PM]: i know... i just said that too...
hevnboundtooo [4:02 PM]: and you said that you believe in a God with many faces, so what are the faces you believe to be
Emperorofthedawn [4:02 PM]: could be any... sometimes you might say god is angry... at the same time i might say god is happy smelling roses...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: same god...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: perception is different though...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: reception is different too...
hevnboundtooo [4:05 PM]: that is all right to see that sort of thing about
God what you are seeing is the nature of God, bnut the others, the palestinians etc. are believing in a false god, Allah or whatever, a God that never gave them life, or redeemed them by sending his son to die and THEN resurecting Him from the dead
Emperorofthedawn [4:05 PM]: why is that a false god?
Emperorofthedawn [4:06 PM]: if it is all part of god's plan, then they have to be right too
hevnboundtooo [4:07 PM]: Did He create the earth, mankind etc. can another god make that claim? it was not part of God's plan to have manking fall to evil, He made Adam and Eve perfect with a perfect will to choose, sin came into the world that way of course, and with it the false gods, that people created
Emperorofthedawn [4:08 PM]: i believe that he did... he is the same god... just a different face...
hevnboundtooo [4:08 PM]: You believe that He did what? and what do you mean he had a different face
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: Allah is another face of God...
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: baal...
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: etc...
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: without these entities(or whatever) we wouldn't be able to define god
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: jesus is another face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: satan is another face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:11 PM]: atheists are a face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:11 PM]: you are a face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:12 PM]: in certain circles, i am a blashemer...
Emperorofthedawn [4:12 PM]: sorry... blasphemer
hevnboundtooo [4:12 PM]: baal was a pagan god, not another face of our creator, the God of truth. If you believe in the only true God, you don't need other false gods to know God. You know the heavenly father by communing with Him. And How could yo even say that Satan, atheists, are faces of God, and no I am not a face of God, I am the child, the created creature that hopefully reflects only the Glory of God. Jesus our redeemer and Satan can not even be compared, much less having satan equated with a face of God.
Emperorofthedawn [4:13 PM]: who says they can't be compared?
hevnboundtooo [4:14 PM]: He is evil, God is certainly not evil. He does not come from the darkness of eart, Satn was thrown to the earth to run havoc,
Emperorofthedawn [4:14 PM]: hmm.. god's will...
hevnboundtooo [4:15 PM]: You can compare them in the natural sense of comparing, as apples to oranges, but in the spiritual sense, there is NO comparison. Who can match what Jesus did for us.
Emperorofthedawn [4:15 PM]: the darkness of earth... that comes from god, too
hevnboundtooo [4:15 PM]: Only after Satans fall, remember the earth and all in it were perfect up until that time
Emperorofthedawn [4:15 PM]: without satan? nobody can...
Emperorofthedawn [4:16 PM]: but remember that jesus is NOTHING without satan...
hevnboundtooo [4:17 PM]: WHAT? JESUS DOES NOT NEED SATAN FOR ANYTHING, JESUS IS MORE POWERFUL
hevnboundtooo [4:17 PM]: He redeemed us from death, from sin, Satan sure didn't and can't
Emperorofthedawn [4:17 PM]: but if it weren't for satan... would we have needed jesus?
hevnboundtooo [4:19 PM]: Mankind was perfect and made the choice to sin, that is why we needed Jesus, if Satan had not fallen, there would not have been an Angelic contest. That is what it really is you know, all this is a testimony to the Heavenly realm because to the threat Satan made to God.
hevnboundtooo [4:19 PM]: because of the threat
Emperorofthedawn [4:20 PM]: so god has a weakness?
hevnboundtooo [4:20 PM]: of course not, how did you arrive at that
Emperorofthedawn [4:20 PM]: if god presumed satan to be a threat, god must've had a reason...
hevnboundtooo [4:22 PM]: He didn't presume Satan to be a threat, remember that 1/3 of the angels fell for Satans claims
Emperorofthedawn [4:22 PM]: so?
hevnboundtooo [4:24 PM]: and they too were thrown out of heaven, so God is allowing Satan to try to fulfill his claim, although God knows that he can't of course, but is allowing him to run havoc on humankind in all kinds of ways, and the evil men are still loved, and God will save them when they come to belief, whereas Satan does not have the option to be saved, you know that Satan believes in God also and TREMBLES
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: remember the story of Job
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: i need a job
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: hehe
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: Hell was created for Satan, and he knows it
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: yes you do Jeremy
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: i don't tremble
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: and you need to stop all this philosophising
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: nah
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: you should tremble,
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: i have no fear
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: you should have fear of God
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: why?
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: that imply that i don't trust him
hevnboundtooo [4:27 PM]: no it does not, I want you to look at the scriptures about fearing God and get back to me with what you found out.
hevnboundtooo [4:27 PM]: you need to study truth of the Word of God more, then just sitting around and thinking in the abstract and get down to the basics
hevnboundtooo [4:28 PM]: It doesn't glorify God thinking in the abstract
Emperorofthedawn [4:28 PM]: are you exaperated?
hevnboundtooo [4:29 PM]: heck no, you are a challenge, and I chuckle at some of the things you get tangled up in thinking
Emperorofthedawn [4:29 PM]: i am not tangled up...
hevnboundtooo [4:29 PM]: oh yes you are
Emperorofthedawn [4:29 PM]: nah
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: what i think and or believe doesn't really lend itself to the english language, though...
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: i think i may actually be nuts
hevnboundtooo [4:30 PM]: what in the world does that mean?
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: nothing really...
hevnboundtooo [4:30 PM]: it must mean something to you or you wouldn't make a statement like that
Emperorofthedawn [4:31 PM]: i don't always think in text...
Emperorofthedawn [4:31 PM]: words and thoughtgs are not always reconcilable...
hevnboundtooo [4:32 PM]: you talk a lot of gibberish Jeremy, why don't you just come out and say what you mean, instead of trying to be so intellectual or something,
Emperorofthedawn [4:32 PM]: sometimes i think in music...
Emperorofthedawn [4:32 PM]: or visually...
hevnboundtooo [4:33 PM]: but there are still words and thoughts that follow the music or the vision unless you are brain dead
hevnboundtooo [4:33 PM]: there is always text thoughts
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: you don't see what i'm saying...
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: no... there aren't
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: text is only a vehicle to convey something
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: exactly, so when you are seeing in music, you have a text thought to yourself
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: otherwise it wouldn't convey anything to you
Emperorofthedawn [4:34 PM]: you still don't get it...
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: there wouldn't be any point in a vision if it didn't convey something to you,
hevnboundtooo [4:35 PM]: well explain it then
Emperorofthedawn [4:36 PM]: when you wake up in the morning in the spring, on a really nice day, feeling refreshed and cheerful, how would you tell someone how you feel if you never heard language aor learned to speak?
hevnboundtooo [4:37 PM]: Jeremy, you learned language and you learned to speak, so when you say YOU think in music, you can speak and equate it with somethin, there you go again, philosphising or somethin
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: i can eaquate it so i can convey it to you, but you still don't really know what i was thinking... you can't
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: sometimes the words are not adequate for the meaning...
hevnboundtooo [4:38 PM]: no I can't unless you say it, but I have to continue some other time, as I have to take something for this tooth ache before I loose my mind.
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: the meaning can not always contain the thought
Emperorofthedawn [4:39 PM]: lose
Emperorofthedawn [4:39 PM]: it's already loose
hevnboundtooo signed off at 4:39 PM
Emperorofthedawn [3:34 PM]: isn't it fun when you want to play jesus? but they pick you to be pilate instead?
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: who, me?
Emperorofthedawn [3:34 PM]: rhetoric...
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I would never play Jesus
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I only get to be led by him
hevnboundtooo [3:34 PM]: I can't do anything in the natural
Emperorofthedawn [3:35 PM]: at least nobody is a samaritan...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: maybe not but lots of pharisees
Emperorofthedawn [3:36 PM]: hehehe... but they get cool hats... and the money...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: and death
Emperorofthedawn [3:36 PM]: we all get that...
hevnboundtooo [3:36 PM]: some to heaven them to hell
Emperorofthedawn [3:37 PM]: some of us just don't GET it, though...
hevnboundtooo [3:37 PM]: like?
Emperorofthedawn [3:37 PM]: oh... i don't know... some people just don't GET death... don't understand it...
hevnboundtooo [3:37 PM]: true
hevnboundtooo [3:38 PM]: and are afraid of it
Emperorofthedawn [3:38 PM]: no fear here...
hevnboundtooo [3:38 PM]: here either, I know where I am going
Emperorofthedawn [3:38 PM]: i can tell you, i don't know... i am not worried though...
hevnboundtooo [3:39 PM]: what? you can tell me what?
Emperorofthedawn [3:39 PM]: where i am going... i don't know, but i'm not worried...
hevnboundtooo [3:40 PM]: if you believe you are saved, the scriptures say!!!!!! if you are saved it is like Paul said, you are absent from the body, present with the Lord
Emperorofthedawn [3:41 PM]: i do not believe in blind faith, but i do believe i am saved...
hevnboundtooo [3:41 PM]: what do you mean, blind faith
Emperorofthedawn [3:42 PM]: i don't feel like a christian... i disagree with many things... but i do not believe that i will burn for it...
hevnboundtooo [3:43 PM]: possibly you are not learning the correct info. about God's word
Emperorofthedawn [3:43 PM]: possibly i am being used by god
hevnboundtooo [3:43 PM]: maybe, but in what way?
Emperorofthedawn [3:43 PM]: could be anything...
hevnboundtooo [3:44 PM]: you must have a particular thought in mind
Emperorofthedawn [3:44 PM]: nope...
Emperorofthedawn [3:44 PM]: just by virtue of my existence, by god's hand i will have an influence on my surroundings...
hevnboundtooo [3:45 PM]: He is not going to teach you to disagree with His word to be used as a testimony to anyone or to the Angels in heaven
Emperorofthedawn [3:45 PM]: and he didn't teach the assyrians to disagree either
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: How can you be an influence in your surroundings if you have nothing definite in you mind about what He wants from you.
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: And so what did the Assyrians gain?
Emperorofthedawn [3:46 PM]: sometimes donkeys talk
hevnboundtooo [3:46 PM]: When you find one let me know
Emperorofthedawn [3:47 PM]: the assyrians gained death and destruction...
hevnboundtooo [3:47 PM]: so?
Emperorofthedawn [3:47 PM]: so israel could keep going...
hevnboundtooo [3:48 PM]: do you think that God put you here to be like them, gaining death and destruction, to Keep Israel going? God kept it going, not them, He allows living or death,
hevnboundtooo [3:48 PM]: we are free will agents
Emperorofthedawn [3:48 PM]: not always
hevnboundtooo [3:49 PM]: yes we are, we have the choice to follow Jesus's path, to learn to think with God or the other principalities of darkness
hevnboundtooo [3:49 PM]: But, faith comes by hearing the word of God
Emperorofthedawn [3:50 PM]: what do you thin kabout arafat's death, by the way?
hevnboundtooo [3:52 PM]: God has appointed each of us a time to live and a time to die, He is the giver of life, and has a perfect plan for us. He knew the exact time of death for Arafat, and no matter how, by who, or natural, God allowed it according to His plan
Emperorofthedawn [3:52 PM]: exactly
hevnboundtooo [3:52 PM]: so?
Emperorofthedawn [3:53 PM]: so what?
Emperorofthedawn [3:54 PM]: what do you think about the palestinians?
hevnboundtooo [3:55 PM]: They have always been after the land given to the Israelites. They have never recognized Israel, and want to be a separate state within Jerusalem, but according to the scriptures, they did not have that right to the land
Emperorofthedawn [3:55 PM]: why not?
Emperorofthedawn [3:56 PM]: only the jews have a right to that land
hevnboundtooo [3:56 PM]: Because of how the land was divided under God's direction to the Tribes of Israel
Emperorofthedawn [3:56 PM]: so there isn't really any difference between the palestinians and the assyrians...
hevnboundtooo [3:57 PM]: There is a difference of culture, but sameness in wanting power and what is not theirs to possess
hevnboundtooo [3:57 PM]: and they believe in a pagan god
Emperorofthedawn [3:58 PM]: what would you say if i said that i believe in a god with many faces?
hevnboundtooo [3:58 PM]: you would have to sit down and explain that to me
Emperorofthedawn [3:59 PM]: it's an abstract concept... there is only one god
hevnboundtooo [3:59 PM]: if it is abstract, what does that mean
Emperorofthedawn [3:59 PM]: one god does not have only one face...
Emperorofthedawn [4:00 PM]: i say that you and i believe in the same god.
Emperorofthedawn [4:00 PM]: we may not be able to agree on what we see, though, when we look at our god.
hevnboundtooo [4:01 PM]: The scriptures say, there is only ONE God,
Emperorofthedawn [4:01 PM]: i know... i just said that too...
hevnboundtooo [4:02 PM]: and you said that you believe in a God with many faces, so what are the faces you believe to be
Emperorofthedawn [4:02 PM]: could be any... sometimes you might say god is angry... at the same time i might say god is happy smelling roses...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: same god...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: perception is different though...
Emperorofthedawn [4:03 PM]: reception is different too...
hevnboundtooo [4:05 PM]: that is all right to see that sort of thing about
God what you are seeing is the nature of God, bnut the others, the palestinians etc. are believing in a false god, Allah or whatever, a God that never gave them life, or redeemed them by sending his son to die and THEN resurecting Him from the dead
Emperorofthedawn [4:05 PM]: why is that a false god?
Emperorofthedawn [4:06 PM]: if it is all part of god's plan, then they have to be right too
hevnboundtooo [4:07 PM]: Did He create the earth, mankind etc. can another god make that claim? it was not part of God's plan to have manking fall to evil, He made Adam and Eve perfect with a perfect will to choose, sin came into the world that way of course, and with it the false gods, that people created
Emperorofthedawn [4:08 PM]: i believe that he did... he is the same god... just a different face...
hevnboundtooo [4:08 PM]: You believe that He did what? and what do you mean he had a different face
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: Allah is another face of God...
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: baal...
Emperorofthedawn [4:09 PM]: etc...
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: without these entities(or whatever) we wouldn't be able to define god
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: jesus is another face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:10 PM]: satan is another face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:11 PM]: atheists are a face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:11 PM]: you are a face of god
Emperorofthedawn [4:12 PM]: in certain circles, i am a blashemer...
Emperorofthedawn [4:12 PM]: sorry... blasphemer
hevnboundtooo [4:12 PM]: baal was a pagan god, not another face of our creator, the God of truth. If you believe in the only true God, you don't need other false gods to know God. You know the heavenly father by communing with Him. And How could yo even say that Satan, atheists, are faces of God, and no I am not a face of God, I am the child, the created creature that hopefully reflects only the Glory of God. Jesus our redeemer and Satan can not even be compared, much less having satan equated with a face of God.
Emperorofthedawn [4:13 PM]: who says they can't be compared?
hevnboundtooo [4:14 PM]: He is evil, God is certainly not evil. He does not come from the darkness of eart, Satn was thrown to the earth to run havoc,
Emperorofthedawn [4:14 PM]: hmm.. god's will...
hevnboundtooo [4:15 PM]: You can compare them in the natural sense of comparing, as apples to oranges, but in the spiritual sense, there is NO comparison. Who can match what Jesus did for us.
Emperorofthedawn [4:15 PM]: the darkness of earth... that comes from god, too
hevnboundtooo [4:15 PM]: Only after Satans fall, remember the earth and all in it were perfect up until that time
Emperorofthedawn [4:15 PM]: without satan? nobody can...
Emperorofthedawn [4:16 PM]: but remember that jesus is NOTHING without satan...
hevnboundtooo [4:17 PM]: WHAT? JESUS DOES NOT NEED SATAN FOR ANYTHING, JESUS IS MORE POWERFUL
hevnboundtooo [4:17 PM]: He redeemed us from death, from sin, Satan sure didn't and can't
Emperorofthedawn [4:17 PM]: but if it weren't for satan... would we have needed jesus?
hevnboundtooo [4:19 PM]: Mankind was perfect and made the choice to sin, that is why we needed Jesus, if Satan had not fallen, there would not have been an Angelic contest. That is what it really is you know, all this is a testimony to the Heavenly realm because to the threat Satan made to God.
hevnboundtooo [4:19 PM]: because of the threat
Emperorofthedawn [4:20 PM]: so god has a weakness?
hevnboundtooo [4:20 PM]: of course not, how did you arrive at that
Emperorofthedawn [4:20 PM]: if god presumed satan to be a threat, god must've had a reason...
hevnboundtooo [4:22 PM]: He didn't presume Satan to be a threat, remember that 1/3 of the angels fell for Satans claims
Emperorofthedawn [4:22 PM]: so?
hevnboundtooo [4:24 PM]: and they too were thrown out of heaven, so God is allowing Satan to try to fulfill his claim, although God knows that he can't of course, but is allowing him to run havoc on humankind in all kinds of ways, and the evil men are still loved, and God will save them when they come to belief, whereas Satan does not have the option to be saved, you know that Satan believes in God also and TREMBLES
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: remember the story of Job
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: i need a job
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: hehe
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: Hell was created for Satan, and he knows it
hevnboundtooo [4:25 PM]: yes you do Jeremy
Emperorofthedawn [4:25 PM]: i don't tremble
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: and you need to stop all this philosophising
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: nah
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: you should tremble,
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: i have no fear
hevnboundtooo [4:26 PM]: you should have fear of God
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: why?
Emperorofthedawn [4:26 PM]: that imply that i don't trust him
hevnboundtooo [4:27 PM]: no it does not, I want you to look at the scriptures about fearing God and get back to me with what you found out.
hevnboundtooo [4:27 PM]: you need to study truth of the Word of God more, then just sitting around and thinking in the abstract and get down to the basics
hevnboundtooo [4:28 PM]: It doesn't glorify God thinking in the abstract
Emperorofthedawn [4:28 PM]: are you exaperated?
hevnboundtooo [4:29 PM]: heck no, you are a challenge, and I chuckle at some of the things you get tangled up in thinking
Emperorofthedawn [4:29 PM]: i am not tangled up...
hevnboundtooo [4:29 PM]: oh yes you are
Emperorofthedawn [4:29 PM]: nah
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: what i think and or believe doesn't really lend itself to the english language, though...
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: i think i may actually be nuts
hevnboundtooo [4:30 PM]: what in the world does that mean?
Emperorofthedawn [4:30 PM]: nothing really...
hevnboundtooo [4:30 PM]: it must mean something to you or you wouldn't make a statement like that
Emperorofthedawn [4:31 PM]: i don't always think in text...
Emperorofthedawn [4:31 PM]: words and thoughtgs are not always reconcilable...
hevnboundtooo [4:32 PM]: you talk a lot of gibberish Jeremy, why don't you just come out and say what you mean, instead of trying to be so intellectual or something,
Emperorofthedawn [4:32 PM]: sometimes i think in music...
Emperorofthedawn [4:32 PM]: or visually...
hevnboundtooo [4:33 PM]: but there are still words and thoughts that follow the music or the vision unless you are brain dead
hevnboundtooo [4:33 PM]: there is always text thoughts
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: you don't see what i'm saying...
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: no... there aren't
Emperorofthedawn [4:33 PM]: text is only a vehicle to convey something
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: exactly, so when you are seeing in music, you have a text thought to yourself
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: otherwise it wouldn't convey anything to you
Emperorofthedawn [4:34 PM]: you still don't get it...
hevnboundtooo [4:34 PM]: there wouldn't be any point in a vision if it didn't convey something to you,
hevnboundtooo [4:35 PM]: well explain it then
Emperorofthedawn [4:36 PM]: when you wake up in the morning in the spring, on a really nice day, feeling refreshed and cheerful, how would you tell someone how you feel if you never heard language aor learned to speak?
hevnboundtooo [4:37 PM]: Jeremy, you learned language and you learned to speak, so when you say YOU think in music, you can speak and equate it with somethin, there you go again, philosphising or somethin
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: i can eaquate it so i can convey it to you, but you still don't really know what i was thinking... you can't
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: sometimes the words are not adequate for the meaning...
hevnboundtooo [4:38 PM]: no I can't unless you say it, but I have to continue some other time, as I have to take something for this tooth ache before I loose my mind.
Emperorofthedawn [4:38 PM]: the meaning can not always contain the thought
Emperorofthedawn [4:39 PM]: lose
Emperorofthedawn [4:39 PM]: it's already loose
hevnboundtooo signed off at 4:39 PM