This question stems from many posts in several discussions on God and religion, and what is considered the 'facts' that are accepted, and what is just 'opinion' or 'hearsay', particularly having to do with God, the Bible, and Christianity...

I think you really had to be there to have any sort of proof that Jesus really existed or if Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden of Eden. History gets so convoluted with each historian's opinion and viewpoint that there are no true written truths.

quote:Originally posted by dyslexiclettuce:

I think you really had to be there to have any sort of proof that Jesus really existed or if Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden of Eden. History gets so convoluted with each historian's opinion and viewpoint that there are no true written truths.

So each individual can only make rational decisions based on their own specific observations of life and reality?

So the conclusions that I make from what I have observed and analyzed could be vastly different than the results that you get from your experiences. How do we know which of us is right, without an independent guideline to compare our results and conclusions?

quote:Originally posted by cerebraldisorder:

So each individual can only make rational decisions based on their own specific observations of life and reality?

So the conclusions that I make from what I have observed and analyzed could be vastly different than the results that you get from your experiences. How do we know which of us is right, without an independent guideline to compare our results and conclusions?

The only possible route is relativism; ie, everyone is right. Since we can never objectively measure anything, we have to assume everybody is equal.

Indeed, we live in a world full of different shades of gray.

The only possible route is relativism; ie, everyone is right. Since we can never objectively measure anything, we have to assume everybody is equal.

How does that even strike you as a possible route? Certain ideas, especially concerning the experience of God, are mutually exclusive in their nature. And there is certainly no reason to assume everybody is equal; where's the logical connection to THAT catastrophe?

Not all truth is necessarily easily observable.

quote:Originally posted by Uncus:

Not all truth is necessarily easily observable.



I agree, for some of the most profund truth takes years of personal research, study, and reflection to uncover.

And even then, there is always more to unearth and discover...

[This message has been edited by cerebraldisorder (edited 01-20-2005).]