If God is all powerful could he haet a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?

God is omnipotent, or all-powerful, which means that He is not limited or contained by anything, anyone, or any power external to Himself. He controls and limits Himself by the qualities of His nature, meaning that though He is powerful enough to randomly destroy people and planets, His power is balanced by His justice, love, and mercy so that He acts righteously according to His principles. This exemplified His perfection, since each of His attributes is balanced against every other in complete harmony.

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quote:Originally posted by Specter:

If God is all powerful could he haet a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?

Teh Simpsons.

No. God cannot perform logical inconsistancies. So the answer is no.

God created man in his image, then God became man (Jesus). Why? Because man is God.

Can you heat a burrito so hot that even you could not eat it? There's your answer.

*yawn*

Cheers,

Lost

quote:Originally posted by cerebraldisorder:

God is omnipotent, or all-powerful, which means that He is not limited or contained by anything, anyone, or any power external to Himself. He controls and limits Himself by the qualities of His nature, meaning that though He is powerful enough to randomly destroy people and planets, His power is balanced by His justice, love, and mercy so that He acts righteously according to His principles.

What about the old testament, PWNEDZORD!

God, as it is called, is not a person or anything like that. God is better thought as the driving force that keeps everything going. God is Physics, the 109 elements, the forces of entropy and enthalpy, the 3 laws of thermodynamics, and so on. In other words, God is everywhere and our interpretations of this force could be in the form of the christian God, the Buddhist god, the wiccan gods, the greek gods, pretty much, everyone has thier own interpretation and idea of what god is and could be. Therefore, no matter what religion you pray to, essentially, you end up in the same place. Since when you die you just are consumed by bacteria and the elements, that is what heaven could be. More than likely heaven exists on earth but isn't the familiar white cloud environment people think it is. Heaven is when your body and soul enter different realms of the world. The 1st law of thermodynamics states energy is neither created or destroyed, and the body definatly has an electromagnetic energy, more as very low Hertzian waves and such. Of course, no one knows what it's like to die and tell the full experience, it can only be theorized what happens next. But, anyone with a little common sense and some physical and chemical knowledge can determine that God is only a force, It can be the force that makes heat flow from a hot object to a cold one, the force that makes electrons revolve around the nucleus as well as make the stars revolve around a common center as in a galaxy. And that, is my interpretation of what God is. So good news, whether youre a Wiccan, a Satanist, a Christian, a Buddhist, or whatever, you still are just following a general driving force that is inexorable and is always there, scientifically proven that humans call God.

Oh by the way, too long/have to pee.

quote:Originally posted by Aphelion Corona:

No. God cannot perform logical inconsistancies. So the answer is no.

Hmmmm thats funny, it seems to me that if anything could perform an illogical inconsistancy it would be god, if god exists.

quote:Originally posted by ruptured_duck:

God created man in his image, then God became man (Jesus). Why? Because man is God.

Can you heat a burrito so hot that even you could not eat it? There's your answer.

No. God created man in His image, and then He sent an extension of Himself (Jesus) to earth to atone for our sins.

He had to make a "living sacrifice" in order to fulfill the prophecies that He gave.

I believe He also did it so that it could never be said that God did not know what it is like to be human (to suffer, to lose, to have joy, the way we do).

I am sure there are other, more intricate, complex reasons, but I'm not God.

Didn't read/You should die.

*Bump*

god cannot think or feel love or anything

"it" just exists so we all exist...

if you yell out fuck god nothing will happen to you.

quote:Originally posted by -Mephisto-:

What about the old testament, PWNEDZORD!

Not that one can psychoanalyze God, but try reading the OT (and the NT, for that matter) from the perspective of looking at/for God's motives. Maybe you will understqand things like keeping His people pure (for the purpose of the Messiah's Bloodline); raising His people the way He wants them (and us) to be -- much like parents raise their kids; telling His people to do things His way and what the consequences would be if they didnt-- in other words, faithful and honest in the things He does and says; teaching us patience in Him--- which in turn teaches us and allows our faith to grow when He does do what He says He will; etc.

When i study God's Word, i use a few different idea's, depending on what i'm reading and the purpose. Sometimes it is simply for absorption -- just to get the general idea of what happened, to whom, and when. Other times i read for the purpose of "why". When reading this way, i try to not only look at what is there, but also what isnt-- and why it isnt.

There are a few other ways that i study, but if you try these, i'm sure that you will see it in quite a different light.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PUN5H3D3X5T3NC3:

Therefore, no matter what religion you pray to, essentially, you end up in the same place.

First of all, if you pray to a religion, then you have the concept of religion wrong.

Second, if what you are saying is even close to right, why are so many religions contradictory to other religions?

From a logical perspective, all religions can be wrong, but they cannot all be right.

But, anyone with a little common sense and some physical and chemical knowledge can determine that God is only a force,



Wow!! Fellow TOTSEANS, i guess we can all go home now... someone with "a little common sense" (PUN5H3D3X5T3NC3) has finally arrived and told us the ultimate truth. What took him so long?? Does he realize the time he could have saved us all??....sorry, one of them moods again http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

Oh by the way, too long/have to pee. /QUOTE



WAIT, I'm sure we have more quest...crap, he's gone. Who was that masked man???

DADADUMP DADADUMP DADADUMP DUMP DUMP...Hi Ho Silver, AWAY

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

I am sure there are other, more intricate, complex reasons, but I'm not God.

I am.

hay come on I was drunk and really did have to pee. I didn't say I was right, only in my little bent up world do I ever claim to be right. but still, you probably are right.

hay come on I was drunk and really did have to pee. I didn't say I was right, only in my little bent up world do I ever claim to be right. but still, you probably are right.

Once again, the underlying contradiction of the qualities of God surfaces when God's omnipotence is considered, along with the question of evil.

There are three basic assumptions made about God:

1. God is all-powerful

2. God is all-knowing

3. God is all good

When combined with a world that contains evil (the opposite of good) there is an inherent contradiction any way you put it.

If God personally permitted evil to come about, he is not all good. If he couldn't stop evil from coming about, then he is not omnipotent. If he could not tell that Adam and Eve would sin and bring about evil, then he is not omniscient.

Until next time, I don't care if you don't "bless me" when I sneeze.

quote:Originally posted by PUN5H3D3X5T3NC3:

God, as it is called, is not a person or anything like that. God is better thought as the driving force that keeps everything going. God is Physics, the 109 elements, the forces of entropy and enthalpy, the 3 laws of thermodynamics, and so on. In other words, God is everywhere and our interpretations of this force could be in the form of the christian God, the Buddhist god, the wiccan gods, the greek gods, pretty much, everyone has thier own interpretation and idea of what god is and could be. Therefore, no matter what religion you pray to, essentially, you end up in the same place. Since when you die you just are consumed by bacteria and the elements, that is what heaven could be. More than likely heaven exists on earth but isn't the familiar white cloud environment people think it is. Heaven is when your body and soul enter different realms of the world. The 1st law of thermodynamics states energy is neither created or destroyed, and the body definatly has an electromagnetic energy, more as very low Hertzian waves and such. Of course, no one knows what it's like to die and tell the full experience, it can only be theorized what happens next. But, anyone with a little common sense and some physical and chemical knowledge can determine that God is only a force, It can be the force that makes heat flow from a hot object to a cold one, the force that makes electrons revolve around the nucleus as well as make the stars revolve around a common center as in a galaxy. And that, is my interpretation of what God is. So good news, whether youre a Wiccan, a Satanist, a Christian, a Buddhist, or whatever, you still are just following a general driving force that is inexorable and is always there, scientifically proven that humans call God.

Oh by the way, too long/have to pee.



You believe in Pantheism? It's so horribly ridiculous to state that everything is god. If everything is god, then nothing at all defines god. "God" loses completely all definition and becomes nothing at all to the point that there is no reason to even speak of such a thing. Might as well become an atheist. What a horrid equivocation of the word.

quote:Originally posted by CrystalMuse:

Once again, the underlying contradiction of the qualities of God surfaces when God's omnipotence is considered, along with the question of evil.

There are three basic assumptions made about God:

1. God is all-powerful

2. God is all-knowing

3. God is all good

When combined with a world that contains evil (the opposite of good) there is an inherent contradiction any way you put it.

If God personally permitted evil to come about, he is not all good. If he couldn't stop evil from coming about, then he is not omnipotent. If he could not tell that Adam and Eve would sin and bring about evil, then he is not omniscient.

Until next time, I don't care if you don't "bless me" when I sneeze.



Man defines and perceives, and labels what is evil or bad. Show me evil or show me what is 'bad', until then your argument is fucking useless. Evil would not exist if joy did not exist, it's just your emotional reaction to something, so stop trying to blame this "god" for creating it. If you're a christian, then you should probably assume the devil creates all evil in the world anyway(silly). Who came up with these definitions of god anyway? The henotheistic jews did for all western religion. Men. more or less pagan worshipping men that made a pact with one distinct god, yahweh, on mount sinai. Men......just fallible men.



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