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chaski86
2005-01-22, 17:13
Does anyone think that the 'age' we're living in is an age of darkness - an age with little to no understanding whatsoever of what's really going on. Are we living in an age similar to the time when the earth was believed by most to be flat?

Is there an answer in sight? An answer to all of the questions, mathematical and philosophical that are commonly seen here on Totse? Is it possible that it will be similar to the extreme realization that the earth was a sphere instead of flat? Something so clear that no one will be able to argue against it?

As of now, I don't see how there could be an answer to all of these questions - there can be no way to prove any of these things. Any opinions out there on this subject?

smashed kaleidoscope
2005-01-22, 17:23
2012

things will be revealed

[This message has been edited by smashed kaleidoscope (edited 01-22-2005).]

I_Like_Traffic_Lights
2005-01-22, 20:47
Every age is like that. I forget the technical term for it (damn alcohol) but there's a basic principle that states every impossibility will be shattered.

Consider a bunch of circles inside circles like when you cut a tree in half. There's Ptolemy who held the geocentric universe position, then that gets blown out of the water by copernicus with his theory about his heleocentric universe then Galileo proving it. Newtonion physics coming to a point and then saying that's impossible until Einstien comes out and proves the impossible possible and sets a new standard of impossibility which is destined to be shattered itself. I believe it's actually currently being shattered as we find ways to go beyond the speed of light.

After that there will be a new line of that's impossible until we redraw the laws again. The way things are and the way things work are extremely maleable, and as such every age feels that it's age is the most important and that it's age is the age of the apocalypse. I can understand why one would feel this way, however, as with the constant state of change it can feel a bit flustering and "something big" is on the way.

Something big is always on it's way, life, now get to it.

napoleon_complex
2005-01-22, 21:25
The more knowledge we know, the more questions we are bound to ask.

I'll use an analogy; use a circle to represent society. The area of that circle represents REAL knowledge known by that society and the circumference of the circle represents what is unknown by that society. As the size of the circle(society) increases, the amount of knowledge society knows also increases, as well as that which is unknown to that society.

It's an endless cycle(atleast in out times).

chaski86
2005-01-23, 05:43
So, what kind of answer will there be to these ultimate questions of "is there a god?" or "how many dimensions, universes are there?"? These are the kinds of questions I am referring to, which I believe, not just because of the 'age', are EXTREEMLY difficult to answer, if not impossible. Do you have any ideas on how they might be answered - a general answer is fine since a specific one is beyond most people's capabilities.

Tyrant
2005-01-23, 05:47
chaski86:

You talking about the Kali Yuga?

Metalligod
2005-01-23, 05:55
I think this is NOT an age of ignorance, it's 'The Age of Prudence'. Examples:

As far as the follies of religion, people seem not to care. That is, those who follow the religions that are proven flawed.

As far as science, people let their religious beliefs hamper the prelation of man's knowledge in this field. But hampering is only slowing.

BTW-Nice topic, it's nice to see other pin points of intelligence in this forum.......

Metallibed, I'm outta here. Niterz ppl.

I_Like_Traffic_Lights
2005-01-23, 08:44
The big answers such as "why are we here" and "is there a god" is what the main physicians, mathemiticians, philosophers, etc are trying to answer throughout time. The answers they just come up with are geometry, logical potivism, quantam physics, whatever.

The point is we'll never know because we're always growing and always think we're at the highest we'll ever be.

chaski86
2005-01-24, 00:47
I'm looking forward to a really big discovery, although several significant ones have been made recently. I sure hope I'm around to hear about the size of the universe or something to do with that. I think it will be very interesting to see that comes up next.

I_Like_Traffic_Lights
2005-01-24, 07:25
well we're evolving quicker and quicker. Consider the advances we've made in the past century compared to how long it took us to walk upright, how long it took us to compose a written language, how long us to form "civilized man". We're looking at evolutions to happen extremely quickly almost to the point where the lessons of 2001: A Space Oddysey must be heeded or we will surely die out.

We must evolve again or die.

Tyrant
2005-01-24, 07:33
And what purpose would there be to evolve? Only to wait for our technology to catch up? Only to evolve again?

I_Like_Traffic_Lights
2005-01-24, 11:42
quote:Originally posted by Tyrant:

And what purpose would there be to evolve? Only to wait for our technology to catch up? Only to evolve again?

Precisely, we're fucked.

chaski86
2005-01-24, 23:11
I believe that there will be a revolution in thought one of these days (or at least I hope there will be). I think the rate at which we are currently advancing in technology will be the near end, if not the end, of us. I think we may make a drastic change back to simple living and, hopefully, logical thinking – somewhat similar to the age of the Greeks although their ideas of gods are a little far fetched, yet simple.

Tyrant
2005-01-25, 07:05
I think the only kind of "revolution" that could possibly occur would be for 9/10ths of the world to commit suicide in existential Kirilovian despair.