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Silent Frog
2005-01-30, 19:50
If God made man in his image because they were the most intelligent creatures and were meant to rule the earth and everything, why would there be a more intelligent life form out in space? Surely they would be made in his image instead?
Electron
2005-01-30, 20:02
were late bloomers...
quote:Originally posted by Silent Frog:
If God made man in his image because they were the most intelligent creatures and were meant to rule the earth and everything, why would there be a more intelligent life form out in space? Surely they would be made in his image instead?
There are many who believe that man is hybrid creation of a early protohumanoid and beings from other worlds. This may explain some of the unexplained jumps in the evolutionary ladder.
Digital_Savior
2005-01-31, 00:30
Nemisis (did you intentionally spell your screen name wrong ? Just curious...) -
How many is "many" ? I've been around the world and have not experienced a single Christian that believes in Alien life or UFO's.
Why don't you post something relevant, to support that claim ? If you hadn't noticed, personal opinions without data do not go very far in the Respect department.
It would be very convenient if this unseen race of aliens filled in all of the "gaps" you talk about, but there is absolutely no evidence for it.
At least Christians have the Bible, when it comes to believing in the unseen entity of God.
LostCause
2005-01-31, 08:46
Why? There was a time when most caucasian people believed that africans weren't humans. Same goes for far asians. Perhaps it isn't our genus or our species that makes us kindred or makes us in gods image. May be it's our "humanity". May be it's something deeper than flesh, something deeper than DNA, and mortal skin.
Cheers,
Lost
unchewed_meat
2005-01-31, 17:48
If god is supposedly omnipresent (everywhere), then god cannot have a set form. If god had a form, IT would be restricted to one area, because that's what form is, and if IT was restricted to one area then IT couldn't be omnipresent. How could man be made in god's form if IT has none?
I emphasize "it" because God isn't human and cant have a gender (supposedly).
Man, I converted myself from Athiest to Agnostic like a week ago and now I just converted myself back to Athiest. Make up my mind, damnit.
xtreem5150ahm
2005-02-01, 03:28
QUOTE Originally posted by Silent Frog:
why would there be a more intelligent life form out in space?
How do you know there are ETs?
Surely they would be made in his image instead?
And if there are ETs, how do you know they arent made in His image?
I dont think it is impossible that God made other life forms on other planets.. even intelligent ones. But i find it doubtful, to say the least.
And even more doubtful that they found us-- needle in a haystack is nothing compared to that.
Silent Frog
2005-02-01, 15:45
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
[B]It would be very convenient if this unseen race of aliens filled in all of the "gaps" you talk about, but there is absolutely no evidence for it.B]
I think God is a very convenient 'explaination' of the mysteries of our creation and I don't see any evidence of that either. You may say the bible or Jesus but in exactly the same way, I expect the ufologists over in Sciennce of the Damned would say their evidence is just as conclusive with messages in crop circles and alien abductions.
unchewed_meat
2005-02-01, 17:36
quote:Originally posted by unchewed_meat:
[BHow could man be made in god's form if IT has none?[/B]
Yes, lets all ignore my brain-exploding question.
MasterPython
2005-02-02, 01:35
quote:Originally posted by Silent Frog:
, why would there be a more intelligent life form out in space? Surely they would be made in his image instead?
Why do you assume you know the whole story? If God created aliens on another planet why would he have the same goals in mind for them?
LeperMessiah
2005-02-02, 03:07
who ever said they dont look like us???
the truth is out there
MAN is made in GOD's image. In the sense that the basic pattern of our awareness is like his own. This doesn't mean that it is as complex as GOD's.
But taking this it is also possible to look at it this way. We function according to the same principles as every scrap of matter and energy(which are the same) in the universe. So we function as the universe does.
We were created OF the universe and hence created in IT's image. GOD is not an Entity it is a notion it is what the egyptian called KA the chinese call it CHI/KI in india they call it prana and modern western science calls it Zero Point Energy.
So it would be possible for aliens to exist as long as their biology conforms to the universe. And that is not that hard to understand
ps.
sorry about the last paragraph. it's messy but i'm dutch and drunk... again my apologies
[This message has been edited by Thaery (edited 02-02-2005).]
WolfinSheepsClothing
2005-02-03, 19:01
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
I've been around the world and have not experienced a single Christian that believes in Alien life or UFO's.
Why don't you post something relevant, to support that claim ?
It would be very convenient if this unseen race of aliens filled in all of the "gaps" you talk about, but there is absolutely no evidence for it.
At least Christians have the Bible, when it comes to believing in the unseen entity of God.
It is statistically, highly unlikely, that you have never come across an x-tian that also believes in UFO's/aliens.
As I've shown before, 82% of Americans define themselves as Christian.
56% of Americans believe in UFO's.
It is mathematically impossible for these statistics not to overlap.
I find it laughable that if one person believes in an unseen, unproven force (God), one has "faith". Yet if another person believes in UFO's, they are a "kook".
http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html
82%
http://www.scifi.com/ufo/roper/05.html
56%
quote:Originally posted by Silent Frog:
If God made man in his image because they were the most intelligent creatures and were meant to rule the earth and everything, why would there be a more intelligent life form out in space? Surely they would be made in his image instead?
ok moron, humans have been around for millions of years, its the year 2005 now...that basically means that humans have been really deveoping for only a few thousand years...what if we started just 10,000 years earlier or maybe a million years ealier??? Thats exactly that happened in alien planets, if aliens exist
quote:Originally posted by unchewed_meat:
If god is supposedly omnipresent (everywhere), then god cannot have a set form. If god had a form, IT would be restricted to one area, because that's what form is, and if IT was restricted to one area then IT couldn't be omnipresent. How could man be made in god's form if IT has none?
I emphasize "it" because God isn't human and cant have a gender (supposedly).
Man, I converted myself from Athiest to Agnostic like a week ago and now I just converted myself back to Athiest. Make up my mind, damnit.
sorry..i don't mean to nit-pick..but it's spelled atheist
unchewed_meat
2005-02-05, 09:25
Well, I dont mean to reply to this thread again, but that's exactly what I'm doing right now.
AngrySquirrel
2005-02-05, 19:46
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Nemisis (did you intentionally spell your screen name wrong ? Just curious...) -
How many is "many" ? I've been around the world and have not experienced a single Christian that believes in Alien life or UFO's.
Why don't you post something relevant, to support that claim ? If you hadn't noticed, personal opinions without data do not go very far in the Respect department.
It would be very convenient if this unseen race of aliens filled in all of the "gaps" you talk about, but there is absolutely no evidence for it.
At least Christians have the Bible, when it comes to believing in the unseen entity of God.
Ever hear of Mormons?
Silent Frog
2005-02-07, 23:52
quote:Originally posted by dan105:
ok moron, humans have been around for millions of years, its the year 2005 now...that basically means that humans have been really deveoping for only a few thousand years...what if we started just 10,000 years earlier or maybe a million years ealier??? Thats exactly that happened in alien planets, if aliens exist
I didn't say anything other than that, moron, and I don't quite see how that relates to my post in anyway.
Digital_Savior
2005-02-09, 06:35
quote:Originally posted by WolfinSheepsClothing:
It is statistically, highly unlikely, that you have never come across an x-tian that also believes in UFO's/aliens.
As I've shown before, 82% of Americans define themselves as Christian.
56% of Americans believe in UFO's.
It is mathematically impossible for these statistics not to overlap.
I find it laughable that if one person believes in an unseen, unproven force (God), one has "faith". Yet if another person believes in UFO's, they are a "kook".
http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html
82%
http://www.scifi.com/ufo/roper/05.html
56%
So, you are saying that 100% of the people that identify themselves as Christians (including Mormons) truly are ?
And that I can't tell the difference, after all this time ?!!
I find it laughable that you actually thought you had me there.
I didn't say that UFOlogist's are kooks.
I said there was absolutely NOTHING to support the idea that there are UFO's or ET's.
Burnt hay or corn fields don't offer proof, and have all been debunked.
C'mon, Wolf.
Shhhh.
[This message has been edited by Digital_Savior (edited 02-09-2005).]
Digital_Savior
2005-02-09, 06:36
quote:Originally posted by unchewed_meat:
Well, I dont mean to reply to this thread again, but that's exactly what I'm doing right now.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Awesome.
*winks*
Digital_Savior
2005-02-09, 06:38
Squirrel - Mormons are not Christian.
Outside of that, I don't get your point.
WolfinSheepsClothing
2005-02-09, 20:07
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
So, you are saying that 100% of the people that identify themselves as Christians (including Mormons) truly are ?
And that I can't tell the difference, after all this time ?!!
I find it laughable that you actually thought you had me there.
I didn't say that UFOlogist's are kooks.
I said there was absolutely NOTHING to support the idea that there are UFO's or ET's.
Burnt hay or corn fields don't offer proof, and have all been debunked.
C'mon, Wolf.
Shhhh.
I never said you called UFO believers kooks.
Yes, I am saying people that identify themselves as Christian, are Christians, why would they lie? It’s a sin.
Do they need to take up serpents, speak in tongues, and drink strychnine to prove their faith?
Let’s say only 50 % are “real” Christians, that would still leave 6% of Christians, also believing in UFO’s. So if you know 100 Christians, there is a very high probability that you also know 6 Christian/ufo believers.
So, how many of your true Christian friends/associates have you asked, whether they also believe in UFO’s?
I bet you will find one. Will you post it here, so that I can say I told you so, haha, etc…? http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
If you think there is NOTHING to support the idea that there are UFO’s or ET’s, and ALL have been debunked,start here:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/
MasterPython
2005-02-11, 17:38
http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/flying_saucers_from_andromeda/creationtheory174542.html
A new textfile that is somewhat related.
Charles Thunder
2005-02-11, 17:42
For some reason I thought this thread said "Christian Urologists." That would have been interesting.
Digital_Savior
2005-02-12, 06:02
quote:Originally posted by WolfinSheepsClothing:
If you think there is NOTHING to support the idea that there are UFO’s or ET’s, and ALL have been debunked,start here:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/
The pictures on the first page appear to be a mix of sambrero's and late 50' hubcaps.
Why is it that NONE of them are close up ?
Most are blurry, or grainy, and all seem to have been taken pre-90's, which is when the UFO craze was going on.
Come on, Wolf. This is no more convincing than any of the Creation websites I have posted for YOU.
(and no, I didn't just look at the pictures.)