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alchemist
2005-02-22, 23:36
i recently saw the south park about mormons, it was awesome. but is that really how it happened,
1 john smith or whoever found golden plates
with writing on them
2 an angel gave him rocks to let him decipher them
3 he wouldnt let anyone see the plates.
4 he deciphered them from inside a hat
5 when the first plate was deciphered, it was hidden to see if he could decipher it again the same.
6 when he heard this, he said god was angry and he would decipher it in a new almost the same way.
if this shit is true, then mormons are the dumbest shits ever. any mormons here
Digital_Savior
2005-02-24, 06:26
Apparently, there aren't.
Would be nice to get a Mormon on here that could adequately explain their religion.
*disappointed*
MasterPython
2005-02-24, 07:02
I am sure we could lure a few in if we found one of thier forums, asked questions and posted a link to TOTSE. Maybe they would not look at the hot topics and actulay find the board.
NightVision
2005-02-24, 20:03
Golden Plates=Some egyptiuan relics. They were found before the rosetta stone though so noone knew what they ment, but now we do. Nothing about anchient hebrews being indians.
MasterPython
2005-02-24, 20:20
Didn't Joe claim to be able to read Egyptian before they found the roseta stone? And made up stories to go with hyroglyphs hoping that nobody would ever be able to read them?
AngrySquirrel
2005-02-24, 21:17
Mormons are definately smart people, look at that Jeopardy guy...but I don't get their religion.
goldenchurchhill
2005-02-24, 23:31
as far as my understanding goes, that southpark is very similar to what actually happened.
The Cannonization of The Mormon texts is NOT closed, as it is with Christianity/Catholicism/Judaism/Islam.
This is something very strange, as there is just ONE man who can decide what is actually God's word.
I think they are just a perversion of Older Catholocism. They have a "President" (Pope) Who decides what writings are Cannonized, and makes most of the Churches decisions. There are (I'm not 100% on the term, but I'll call them Deacons) Deacons, who form a commitee under the President. They all get together and vote on stuff.
That sounds just like Catholocism back when the Pope actually called all the shots.
We have a Mormon in my physics class and we throw Coca-cola on him. Because Pepsi's too good to use.
illuminatikiller
2005-02-25, 02:15
quote:Originally posted by Pez_V1:
We have a Mormon in my physics class and we throw Coca-cola on him. Because Pepsi's too good to use.
You're CRAZY!! Coke is WAY better than Pepsi!
NightVision
2005-02-25, 03:20
mormons own most of coke. so throw his own soda on him lol.
Digital_Savior
2005-02-25, 04:20
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
I am sure we could lure a few in if we found one of thier forums, asked questions and posted a link to TOTSE. Maybe they would not look at the hot topics and actulay find the board.
If you aren't joking, it's possible.
I would go to one of their forums, but I would hate to be the only Christian there.
I am not exactly popular here on Totse, but I do know what life was like without Christianity. I had a lot of experience rebelling against God.
What I DON'T have is experience as a Mormon.
So, how could I empathize enough to tell them that they are wrong ? Or tell them about the love of God ?
Logically, I can see how flawed their doctrine is (as compared to the Bible, in my opinion), so I would probably never be able to believe as they do.
But as far as "knowing" why they think the way they do...I can't.
Digital_Savior
2005-02-25, 04:21
quote:Originally posted by AngrySquirrel:
Mormons are definately smart people, look at that Jeopardy guy...but I don't get their religion.
Alex Trebek is a Mormon ?
Wow....I have been watching that show all my life.
I'd never have guessed.
alchemist
2005-02-25, 05:14
in some ways, i think mormonism is more plausible then christianity, which was symbolic and moralistic, not meant to be taken literally.
the easiest way to spread the word of jesus as much as possible, fear was the best way.
thus heaven and hell came into play, turning these symbolic things into real places.
heaven = the good deeds you do living on, passing person to person and perpetuating more good.
hell= the opposite.
its like a karma thing, but without the idea of it coming back around to you full circle.
it seems too obvious, which sometimes is a problem i suppose.
but mormons do seem quite happy and smart, so no harm done i guess. catholics are some of the most miserable people i know. i am one, and i have known many
alchemist
2005-02-25, 05:21
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
I am not exactly popular here on Totse, but I do know what life was like without Christianity. I had a lot of experience rebelling against God.
But as far as "knowing" why they think the way they do...I can't.
say you never found god, but decided to turn your life around, and instead of using the prospect of heaven guide you, you used the prospect of helping others.
its basically the same, but you wont have to go to church, or worry about sinning and hell, or bugging people. there are many religions, from before christianity and after, how do you know yours is right?
do you feel god? maybe that is another god, who dosent care you dont believe in him, he still loves you.
what if i started a religion, and my god loved you more then yours, would you join my team? it is just so preposterous
Josh rocks
2005-02-26, 09:56
YOu can't judge Mormonism on the fact that it seems amazingly dodgy.
Yeah, there are holes everywhere in the story of J Smith... I mean, they admit that he was known for his 'stories' in the actual explaination...
regardless of how obviously fake the book of mormon is; it doesn't mean its a stupid religon. look at the lifestyle they lead.
Look at the countless positive affects it has on society.
If all christians had been converted by the mormons, the world would be (imo) a better more civil place, and nosey christian-fundementalists wouldn't be so fucking annoying..
You have to remember, it's still a new religion, and they never had time to erase the negetive infomation from their doctrine... i mean, the only way christianity is the way it is now; is because of heavy editing that occured during it's existance over the last 2000 years.
Give mormonism another 1800 years, and stop allowing people to question it under pain of death ... and see how the religion is then.
i'm agnostic, and see all religions as equally flawed. it doesn't mean that they suck...
hey, Im a mormon, ask away
deptstoremook
2005-02-27, 16:59
I know plenty about Mormonism (though I'm not one), thanks to a friend I have who's pretty devout and extremely well-educated on the subject. They've got some weird beliefs, but what did you want to know?
I'm mormon, I honestly don't know that much about mormonism, other than it's an edifice of christianity. All I know is that Mormons have 3 kingdoms of heaven: run by The Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and God; lowest, mid, highest, respectively.
I've had the privilege of growing up in a household with more than one religion, Catholicism & Mormonism. I really have the best of both worlds without having to be devout. I'm a Catholic Mormon... interesting.
RandomHero
2005-02-27, 21:54
Mormons also believe in Post-Mortem Baptism.
treasureintheattic
2005-02-28, 12:40
quote:Originally posted by NightVision:
mormons own most of coke. so throw his own soda on him lol.
I thought they weren't supposed to drink soda because it had caffeine(sp?)
Anyways, back on topic. Actually i think it's really similar to the Mormon story because the creators of South Park did a lot of research about the Mormon religion for a movie they made(i think it was Orgazmo). I also read about the subject and it's kinda fucked up. Supposedly, God came from heaven to have sex with the Virgin Mary so she would conceive Jesus and if your good mormon, u can be the god of your own world. Oh those crazy white folks.
treasureintheattic
2005-02-28, 12:45
quote:Originally posted by NightVision:
mormons own most of coke. so throw his own soda on him lol.
I thought they weren't supposed to drink soda because it had caffeine(sp?)
Anyways, back on topic. Actually i think it's really similar to the Mormon story because the creators of South Park did a lot of research about the Mormon religion for a movie they made(i think it was Orgazmo). I also read about the subject and it's kinda fucked up. Supposedly, God came from heaven to have sex with the Virgin Mary so she would conceive Jesus and if your good mormon, u can be the god of your own world. Oh those crazy white folks.
WakingTheDead
2005-02-28, 18:29
They fuck like rabbits. There were some on my doorstep, I never answered the door, and each day there were more and more and more of them. Soon I hadda get out the napalm and nip them in the bud. Fucking mormons.
jackketch
2005-02-28, 19:54
thing that i can't stand about the utah boys is that they are always sooo fucking NICE!
lack of vice in another is an affront...
they are always so loving, kind and helpful.
'hey brother, what can we do to make your life better today'
eewwwwww
don't get me wrong -i like and respect them big time but....after an hour talking to them i have to go out and kick the dog or the kids or some old granny tottering down the street.
Mormons don't drink soda because caffeine alters the state of mind, temporarily speeding up processes, using up more energy, blah blah blah...
Phayder92889
2005-03-03, 01:26
mormons suck. they're out of their fucking minds with most of their beliefs.. one of the prevalent being the whole "cola, coffee, tea" ban. they say that 'tannic acid' is bad for your health and that it turns your internal organs leathery. I actually had the LDS bastards come into my house and I showed them exactly what tannic acid does to people: nothing. our stomache lining and digestive tract is entirely lined by a good 3 cm of mucus. it keeps hydrochloric out, why wouldn't it keep tannic acid out? they're full of shit. I tell them to go peddle their religion to the simpletons down the block. I can't fucking stand these ppl... them or fundie christians... they all suck my left nut while I push the other one up their mom's ass.
This is Phayder: Out.
***SIGNAL LOST***