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chris403
2005-02-23, 23:57
Some of the nutty messages received include the following. I could provide the names of the people who sent them, but these comments are so generic and typical that they apply to basically any blind believer, with the emphasis on blind.

"Your time will come!" This could be taken two ways: The friendly interpretation is that someone is wishing me luck in my teaching. The hateful interpretation is that I am being condemned to judgment by a monstrous god person.

"Eternity is a long time to be wrong!" All freethinkers have heard this idiotic retort, which is a more refined version of "You're going to hell!" This comment is completely psychotic, in that these blind believers believe there is a "loving" and "forgiving" god person who will hideously punish anyone who dares to question "his" existence. Obviously, we reject such an ugly concept, so this threat doesn't scare us. Also, what if YOU'RE wrong? You have condemned millions of people to hell in your thoughts and words, not to mention that, if you're a Christian, you believe the Jews are guilty of killing God! These are pretty heinous accusations, so you had better be sure that you're not wrong. Blind belief is not a win-win situation. Indeed, it is intellectually dishonest and harmful.

"When you die, you will meet your Maker and fall down on your knees before Jesus and ask His forgiveness." Ditto with the above. Why would the "omnipotent" Jesus and "His Father" be so threatened by our unbelief? Did "He/They" not provide us with intelligence? Yet, "He" wishes us to spit on "His" gift and not use it? This asinine comment also means that the hundreds of millions of Buddhists and others who don't believe in the Jewish godman are diabolical and will be severely punished. Those who subscribe to such bigotry are already living in hell.

"I'll pray for you!" This comment sounds like an alien language to freethinkers. It comes out something like this: "BZZZPPFFFFTTT." When interpreted, it becomes clear that the person who is making such a comment feels quite smug and superior in that he/she has chosen the RIGHT god, compared to whatever it is you do with your consciousness, such that he/she now has a direct pipeline, whereas you do not, and he/she will put in a good word for you, you lowlife scum. Since the concept of "God" is completely arbitrary, we could respond that we will pray to the Cosmic Mickey Mouse that our well-wishers become intelligent. Naturally, we are not talking about loved ones who make this heartfelt prayer comment in times of true trauma. We are addressing the condescending offer presented by missionaries and proselytizing fanatics who have never even met us but who feel they know we are sinners who need prayer to their "Father in heaven." Theirs is a rather unctuous and smarmy mentality.

Now, just in case you think I'm being a bit harsh in pronouncing these statements and sentiments psychotic, I offer up the following email - you decide. Do you truly want to live in a world dominated by this kind of mentality?

"Alas, your vile vulgarness comes out. It's obvious you and your mind belong to Satan. The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. You are a very sad excuse of a human being. You babble about things you know nothing about. The Jews aren't Christkillers. Whoever told you that. Jesus died for all of us, so we all are Christkillers. . . . Whether or not you like it, or admit it, you were created by God, you will be judged by God, and you will be punished by God. You can play all the games you want to until that day of judgement, but it's coming."

To these loving, advanced concepts, I respond, "You and your mind obviously belong to Ahriman the Devil! Ahura-Mazda the Almighty will judge and punish you! My Persian boogeyman is bigger than your Judeo-Christian one! You barbarian with a bone in your nose! Ooga-booga!" Then I follow this with much saber-rattling, teeth-baring and chest-beating.

Thank you for your time and remember God Bless you! And may Satin bless you too. And dont let Jesus fill you with his white sticky glory!

[This message has been edited by chris403 (edited 02-23-2005).]

dbironman1
2005-02-24, 00:07
well done i must say.

Eil
2005-02-24, 02:01
uh, have you read some of what the little atheist-wannabes on totse write daily?

Krispy
2005-02-24, 02:01
Did you write that? I like it.

[This message has been edited by Krispy (edited 02-24-2005).]

chris403
2005-02-24, 02:14
Sorry Eil but im not quite sure what you saying.

Eil
2005-02-24, 03:00
some christians are very stupid. some christians are zealots, and very dogmatic. some christians are simply brain-washed followers... others, very intelligent and judicious philosophers.

now i'm gonna say that again, but i'll substitute a blank space for christians... put whatever religion or philosophy you want in its place.

some ___ are very stupid. some ___ are zealots, and very dogmatic. some ___ are simply brain-washed followers... others, very intelligent and judicious philosophers.

Eil
2005-02-24, 03:01
and just to make sure i'm completely understood, your first post proves none of the things you claimed in the title.

Digital_Savior
2005-02-24, 03:31
quote:now i'm gonna say that again, but i'll substitute a blank space for christians... put whatever religion or philosophy you want in its place.

A safe move on your part, since you knew someone would capitalize on it, and say the very same thing about everything else.

Why did you specifically target Christians, though ?

xtreem5150ahm
2005-02-24, 03:33
QUOTE Originally posted by chris403:

Some of the nutty messages received include the following. I could provide the names of the people who sent them, but these comments are so generic and typical that they apply to basically any blind believer, with the emphasis on blind.

Who is blind? Those that believe in the True God, or those that do not? Both sides of the coin see the other side as blind.

"Your time will come!" This could be taken two ways: The friendly interpretation is that someone is wishing me luck in my teaching. The hateful interpretation is that I am being condemned to judgment by a monstrous god person.

I guess i would have to have been there to know if your interpretations were the only two possible... for that matter, maybe the conversation was about you getting passed up for promotion.. or maybe it was Lucy saying this to you, after she pulled the football away from you, Charlie Brown. My point is that all we have is your side of the story and your interpetation of it.

"Eternity is a long time to be wrong!" All freethinkers have heard this idiotic retort, which is a more refined version of "You're going to hell!"

Just curious, how do we know that you are a freethinker? BTW, "You're going to hell!" would be incomplete... it should continue with without accepting the Blood of the Lamb

This comment is completely psychotic, in that these blind believers believe there is a "loving" and "forgiving" god person who will hideously punish anyone who dares to question "his" existence.[b/]

And there are a few who believe in His existence, and will still be condemned.

[b]Obviously, we reject such an ugly concept, so this threat doesn't scare us.

Rejecting or accepting the concept does not cause the concept to be true or false. Only the true or falseness, makes it true or false.

Also, what if YOU'RE wrong? You have condemned millions of people to hell in your thoughts and words, not to mention that, if you're a Christian, you believe the Jews are guilty of killing God!

If Christians are wrong, and there is no God, THEN WHAT? Then it doesnt matter.. you live, you die... nothing more, nothing less. Legacy, decendants, accomplishments-- who cares.

These are pretty heinous accusations,

If there is no God, they are nothing; neither heinous nor accusations. If there is a God, then they are either right or wrong. However, just so you know, only God can comdemn. What you are witnessing from Christians is warnings of God's condemnation.

so you had better be sure that you're not wrong.

The only thing that would matter about Christians being wrong (about what you have described), is if they're wrong about what God's Will is or if Christians are following the wrong God.

Blind belief is not a win-win situation. Indeed, it is intellectually dishonest and harmful.

Isnt it intellectually dishonest to assume that Christians have blind belief?

"When you die, you will meet your Maker and fall down on your knees before Jesus and ask His forgiveness." Ditto with the above. Why would the "omnipotent" Jesus and "His Father" be so threatened by our unbelief?

Who says that He is threatened?

The Sovereign God says to do, and we do not. The Sovereign God says to not do, and we do.

Eil
2005-02-24, 04:16
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

A safe move on your part, since you knew someone would capitalize on it, and say the very same thing about everything else.

Why did you specifically target Christians, though ?

not safe, just realistic. i don't have anything against christians, or any other religion. i've said it before - there are many core values i share with many different religions... but i hate idiocy across the board. the original post was idiotic.

i specifically used christians because the original poster was obviously directing his brilliant 'critique' mainly against christianity.

getting a bit paranoid there, digital... the world doesn't revolve around christianity, you know?