If you wanna read the actual incidence of this happening, just take a look at Dagnabitt's challenge to her on page 4 or 5 of the "I'm a satanist but have to go to church" thread.

She got so fucking shut down, it's sad. This should go as standing evidence that this girl has got no arguments that involve real, non-biblical, logical arguments.

Mmmm.. it feels so good to see such a clearly stated defence. Dagnabitt, thank you. Incredible work!

Close this thread! haha

I have to agree. That was pretty funny.

Now, now, remember that this is also an outlet. Let people say what they believe, and even though they may deprecate other beliefs, such is the nature of religion. Never take words too seriously. If you do take them seriously, you're acting out the system that has produced many of the wars and plagues of mankind. Religion against religion, tradition against tradition. They are all the same and they are nothing. If there wasn't an outlet for these grievances, who knows what would happen. I usually get annoyed when the kids around here profess their dramas on this site as if an original experience occured rather than a phase. It can be more annoying to listen to the arrogance, pride, and hypocrisy here. "Thanks for supporting me, you're the holiest one here, I know you're following God's path." It is not for you to judge each other's ways. It is not for you to judge for the sake of pride, for the sake of feeling the mass of compliments and the belief that you have beat back the demons of man. It is not 'us' or 'them'. But I understand that for some people, that outlet is very important to them. They want meaning, they want excuses.

Let them rage against their demons. You don't have to get inbetween them and their personal battle. http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum8/HTML/000779.html

Yes, totse is a place to unload all your baggage. The philosophy forum is quite different from the link you posted. This is a place to argue with evidence and logic. And I applaud dagnabitt for doing it so well.

Thank you for the compliment, but i really didnt intend to "own" anyone. I like digital savior, but I really do feel she is a typical Christian and should realize that her views are personal and should not apply to others based simply on her insistance.

Are you guys done blowin each other? LMFAO

Wow, this is so incredibly...

Mature.

Dag - Mind telling me what is so "typical" about me ?

Because I believe what the Bible says, and therefore uphold the teachings of it ?

If that makes me typical, then I say AMEN !

If you mean that I am ignorant, uneducated, and trembling in my fear of my own life, so that I need to turn to "something" to sustain myself, then you are far off the mark.

I can't imagine why you like me, that is irrelevant.

I hope to hear something insightful back from you.

Chaski - You remind me of someone...oh, yes. I remember...

Grover Dill.

Scut Farkus' crummy little "toady" in the movie 'A Christmas Story'.

I hope that is what you were aiming for, so that you can sleep better tonight in knowing that you have accomplished your goal.

Sleep is a great mender of cranky attitudes.

Digital_Savior stand down you fool.

mark my words, the day will come when jesus will come back and anally assault you for having such a perverted view of him. it makes me ill!

quote:Dag - Mind telling me what is so "typical" about me ?

Its because you cannot/ do not talk about Christianity objectively. You revert to the legitimacy of scripture to defend the legitimcay of scripture. And you have already admitted that you will not criticise your religion, even though you have no problems dictating it. This is typical of Christians.



quote:If you mean that I am ignorant, uneducated, and trembling in my fear of my own life, so that I need to turn to "something" to sustain myself, then you are far off the mark.

No I dont mean that at all, I'm referring to the fact that you dont integrate philosophy well into your debates, and act is if some of the things you say are self evident. This, and the above reason, makes it impossible to argue with you, because your logic is self referential and circular.

I dont question the validity of your personal belief DS, I question your ability to capitialize on universal truth using religous dogma.

quote:I can't imagine why you like me, that is irrelevant.

People are more than their convictions. I think you're a good person, from what I've seen. Never let my condescension of you tell you otherwise. I'm just exercising my right on a public forum to disagree with what you believe, because you have put it out for debate.





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Why all the arguing on forums? We need to just have votes and begin crucifying people again.

The forums are for arguing in one way or another.

Seriously, are you people that childish? Truthfully you cant answer those questions with simple yes or no answers. You cant answer with one paragraph. I do applaud both for at least attempting to keep a sort of decorum there.

But seriously, do you think your mature enough to post on this forum? You sound just like a junior high gossip hag. Fuck, why dont you grow up a little before you post again.

Who are you talking to ?

quote:People are more than their convictions. I think you're a good person, from what I've seen. Never let my condescension of you tell you otherwise. I'm just exercising my right on a public forum to disagree with what you believe, because you have put it out for debate.

Fair 'nuf.

I am pretty accustomed to condescension.

*shrugs*

I obviously disagree with your perception of me, though it should be noted that you can only perceive what I deliver.

Perhaps it is time to try something different, as far as approach is concerned.

meh, i'm tired of arguing for a little while I think. Lets just say we're diferent and leave it at that http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

quote:Originally posted by dagnabitt:

meh, i'm tired of arguing for a little while I think. Lets just say we're diferent and leave it at that http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Nah... fuck that... FIGHT!!! HAHAHAHAHA

I don't understatnd why some christians are so obsessed with proving christianity to the world. Either you are going to believe or you aren't going to believe. 99% of totse IMHO has allready made up their minds.

quote:Originally posted by NightVision:

I don't understatnd why some christians are so obsessed with proving christianity to the world. Either you are going to believe or you aren't going to believe. 99% of totse IMHO has allready made up their minds.

Their religion requires them to proselytize.... what's the harm.

Eh, evangelism is to the atheist as a wife is to a lazy husband...nag nag nag. I have no problem with Christians, nor discusssing their religion and such...but if I'm not in the mood to talk about it, or say I don't want to convert, leave it at that for the sake of common courtesy. It's a damn shame the Bible only commands Christians to not provoke their children to wrath.

That's exactly how I feel. Those of us who have grown up in a predominantly christian country have heard it all before. If we haven't converted by now, then proselytizers should get a clue and quit bugging us.

God is known at your most truly silent moment.

All this dogma shit is just garbage and talk. Mind clutter and empty thoughts... where the hell did people like Beany go?

You guys sound like you need to smoke some weed.

http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

Heh, funny you should mention smoking weed.

Last time someone came to my house to convert me, I was doing exactly that!

Yeah, preaching to an atheist is like fueling their fire, because you give them the impression that you have to be bullied or have it drilled into your head to believe.