Easter Bunny! Where did you silly Christians come up with this one?!

But I suppose; It's just as believable as any other part of your cult.

And the Lord said: "Eat of these Jelly beans, for they are as my Flesh to you"

I guess I forgot how much the easter bunny is mentioned during mass..... http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

They put bunny ears on Jesus' head, too. It shows that he had a sense of humour.

The Easter Bunny is a pagan remnant. The Christian resurection holiday was placed on a pagan fertility goddess's holy day. Her name was Oestre (pronounced Easter, roughly) and her symbols were the rabbit and the egg.

Jesus died on the cross and was buried on Friday (Jewish Sabbath sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday) and was raised again 3 days later, on Sunday. (Friday = 1, Saturday = 2, Sunday = 3) Fulling His promise that if they destroyed "this" temple He would raise it again in three days.

This is why a Christian celebrates easter Sunday as a holy day or holiday. It is a day of reverence to the subject of being born again. It is the final step in baptism. Jesus died on the cross - you die to your old sinful nature - buried in the grave/ immersed in water symbolic to a rebirth - raised from the dead/come out from under the water. Born again in spirit to a new life. This is what "Easter" means to a Christian. It means to be born again.



No where in the Holy scripture does it tell us to eat egg shaped choclates from rabbits. As said before, the easter bunny and eggs is a pagan ritual. Somewhere in time they were lumped together in order to keep the peace in the time of the Roman empire.

Follow what you will but the easter bunny, colored eggs, etc have no place in Christian faith and have nothing to do with God's plan. Reverence to what Jesus did on the cross and being the first born to lead the way to the Father is a part of God's plan.

Who knows where that cartoon is with Jesus saying " I'm back, Now have some chocolate.".

It's called Hallmark capitalism. Mmmm...chocolate....

Is there any proof at all that Jesus was resurected? Other than the word of some of his cultist followers, who were all high at the time...

P.S. Islanders arn't Crazy!

quote:Originally posted by Islanders Arnt Crazy:

Is there any proof at all that Jesus was resurected? Other than the word of some of his cultist followers, who were all high at the time...

P.S. Islanders arn't Crazy!



Well, there isn't proof, but there is proof however that a man named Jesus did die on a cross, so whatever happened before that is up to you I guess.

So what, a man named jesus died on a cross, how many thosand jesus's do you think there were in those days? Prove we got the right one? Exactly, happened to long ago, no proof, Pwned.

quote:Originally posted by Islanders Arnt Crazy:

Is there any proof at all that Jesus was resurected? Other than the word of some of his cultist followers, who were all high at the time...

P.S. Islanders arn't Crazy!

probably more proof than your statement that "they were high at the time"

there are extra-biblical writing about it.. the only only i can think of right now is Josephus (sp?) and his writing was mid to late first century i think.

He wasn't there/ just writing what he heard. No proof in it, I could write that Jesus came ot me at night and told me to kill butterflies, who can say he didn't.

Your dead in the water buddy, can't beat me on this. Goodbye!

So I take it you don't accept all history that you haven't personally witnessed?

quote:Originally posted by Islanders Arnt Crazy:

He wasn't there/ just writing what he heard. No proof in it, I could write that Jesus came ot me at night and told me to kill butterflies, who can say he didn't.

Your dead in the water buddy, can't beat me on this. Goodbye!

well, considering you asked, "Is there any proof at all that Jesus was resurected?"

and also that there weren't alot of photomats and quickee prints... come to think of it, cameras werent invented until yesterday...

cone on now, use your head, what are you? about 15?? Josephus was a historian that scholars regularly accept as 'relatively" true. Of course it was a long time ago, but i'm sure you accept that other historical figures existed, based only on lesser manuscripts of writings than the Bible and its "cultist followers" have left.

As to other proofs, if there are things like pieces of the cross and such, they are lost to antiquity as suveniers--relics that were used for the purpose of providing faith. Those relics are-- if any can be found-- are basically useless because ... how to say this.. lets go this way:

lets take for instance Christ's crown of thorns: Today, the crown is but a bare circlet of woven vines stripped of their prickly thorns, which were disributed over the centuries as individual relics. Various chapels throughout Europe claim to hold the thorns; the crown itself rests in a magnificent reliquary at the Cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris. It is displayed once a year, during Good Friday services, on the day Christ wore the crown.

The relic is said to have been found in the 6th century on the floor of the Holy Sepulcher. It was moved to Constantinople i the 11th century, and later given as a peace offering to King Louis of France, who, barefoot and wearing a humble tunic, carried it through the streets for pulic veneration. Napoleon, too, venerated the crown.

The vines still bore their thorns in 590 A.D. when St. Gregory of Tours commented that the thorns were fresh and green, "miraculouosly renewed each day." The thorns made excellent gifts, for we're told that the emperor Justinian impressed St. Germanus, bishop of Paris, with the presentation of a single thorn in a gold box. Charlemagne, 1st of the Holy Roman emperors, was gifted with 8 thorns, which today are in the cathedral in Aachen, Germany (along with the holy swaddling cloth). Mary Queen of Scots cherished the thorns she owned, which are in the Stanbrook Abbey, in England.

Unfortunately, the sum total of the thorns in chapels and museums around the world--more than 70 to which must be added the scores of thorns that have been reported lost--could not have come from a single twist of botanical vines; the plant is now named Zizyphus spina-christi. It is said that these wxtra thorns are actually 3rd class relics, that is, they are thorns that were touched to the crown and acquired some degree of holiness through association.

AUTHENTICITY The Catholic Church does not like to call into question the authority of (these) venerated relics--(sometimes whole bodies of saints still preserved, liquefied blood, etc.) --since they prompt so much pious divotion.

An official stand was taken in 1563. The Council of Trent sanctioned the veneration of relics and laid down rules by which bishops were to authenticate a saint's remains. The job has never been easy. At one time tradition sufficed. Today, with the availability of DNA testing, no relic wants to offer itself up for close scrutiny. What was thought to be the heart of a learned saint may turn out to be that of a boar.

Around the same time the Council of Trent was approving the veneratino of relics, Protestant Reformers denounced relics-- a stand that remains in effect to this day in much of Protestantism.

Eastern Ortodox Churches tend to venerate icons aver relics, those deal with the origins of saintly patronage of various diseases and occupations.

this was mostly copied, partly paraphrased from "Sacred Origins of Profound Things" ~~ Charles Panati

So basically, if there is proof other than historical writings, there really is no way to establish the authenticity.

But with historical documents, you can establish evidence better than just circumstantial.

quote:Originally posted by Islanders Arnt Crazy:

He wasn't there/ just writing what he heard. No proof in it, I could write that Jesus came ot me at night and told me to kill butterflies, who can say he didn't.

Your dead in the water buddy, can't beat me on this. Goodbye!

Solution: you don't exist. You're just an automaton posting this. Therefore your opinion is automatically negated. Prove me wrong.

Your dead in the water buddy, can't beat me on this. Goodbye!

quote:Originally posted by deptstoremook:

Solution: you don't exist. You're just an automaton posting this. Therefore your opinion is automatically negated. Prove me wrong.

Your dead in the water buddy, can't beat me on this. Goodbye!

I think therefore I am. Even if I am some kind of artificial being, I still am that being. There is no way that I do not exist, if I did not exist then I could not be typing this.

Sure, I may be sitting on the ground in an insane asylum, only THINKING this is what Im typing, but then, I am sitting in that asylum, and therefore, exist.

Besides, part of the whole christian thing is free will, so you can't say that someone else's opinion doesn't matter. That isn't very christian of you.

I came across this cartoon (http://tinypic.com/2d5d1f) last Easter, and I just had to repost it. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

Edit: damn UBB code.

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That's the one. Thanks.

EDIT: I spent way too much time here.

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quote:Originally posted by napoleon_complex:

So I take it you don't accept all history that you haven't personally witnessed?

Nobody has blind faith in the accuracy of history. Probably alot of it is wrong.

It's hard to sort the truth out when everyone seems to have an agenda,

just like anything else.

My personal theory is that Easter is the time of the year when Jesus comes back to life as a bunny that hands out colorful eggs.

God I love standup.

I find it awesome that holidays usurped from paganism by christianity are now being usurped in turn by consumerism. Santa and the Easter bunny have replaced Jesus! WOOT!

quote:Originally posted by AbsentMindedWitch:

The Easter Bunny is a pagan remnant. The Christian resurection holiday was placed on a pagan fertility goddess's holy day. Her name was Oestre (pronounced Easter, roughly) and her symbols were the rabbit and the egg.

Also known as Astarte, Astarat, Astoreth, and, of course, Ishtar, which is why I celebrate by renting the movie.

I'm too lazy to dig through the Bible right now...was JC buried before or after sunset?

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

I'm too lazy to dig through the Bible right now...was JC buried before or after sunset?

Before sunset, so His followers, including Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, could return home before the start of the Sabbath day.

Luke 23:50-56 (NKJV)

50Now behold, there was a man named Joseph, a council member, a good and just man. 51He had not consented to their decision and deed. He was from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who himself was also waiting for the kingdom of God. 52This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. 54That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.

55And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. 56Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.



[EDIT] Added Scripture reference.

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Okay then, so on the understanding that Jews called the days from sunset to sunset...why is Easter on Sunday? Or did JC rise after only 2 days?

Almost all extrabiblical evidence is forged. The only real evidence I know of is a mention of James, brother of Jesus. One other thing that was supposedly said by Josephus (who was Jewish) was that Jesus was crucified and resurrected himself on the third day afterwards. Talk about an obvious forgery.

There are a couple things that could have been verified, such as the dead rising from their graves (Matthew 27:52,53) and the curtain in the temple being torn. But there is no mention of this anywhere outside of the Bible.

Short answer: the Easter Bunny originate from a pagan belief/ceremony/holiday. The rabbit symbolized fertility, as well as the eggs that you paint. It was incorporated into the Christian religion when Catholicism became popular. It was one of the many pagan holidays the Catholics adopted in an attempt to convert the pagans.

Now I'm closing this thread, because the question has been answered and I feel like it.

Cheers,

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