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AnAsTaSiO
2005-03-26, 04:18
What would the world be like without Christianity?

Falcon
2005-03-26, 04:33
Better.

Zman
2005-03-26, 04:49
Worse.

Mr T
2005-03-26, 04:51
The same.

Rykoshet
2005-03-26, 06:07
Only one way to find out *cocks gun*

Digital_Savior
2005-03-26, 07:22
Without Hope.

Lemme explain that...I am not saying that without Christianity the world would be lost, because that is just having faith in something.

That "something" that we happen to have faith in would have to not exist in order for Christianity to not be a part of our world.

Without God and Jesus, Christianity ceases to exist.

So, if there were no God and no Jesus, I would have to say that this world would be without purpose and hope.

A pretty dismal existence/experience.

Rakanja
2005-03-26, 09:29
Christianity put human technology back 500 years by making untrue asumptions about scientific knowledge. The library of Alexandria burned down, which didnt help, but Christianity had a hand in it also.

Digital_Savior
2005-03-26, 09:31
Yup...damn us Christians !

http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

Sephiroth
2005-03-26, 11:17
D-mn the Roman hellenists who hijacked the Church and redacted the scripture. D-mn the Borgia, d-mn the Habsburgs, d-mn their bullae. Don't curse the flock, because the shepherd has been displaced by a pretender.

Fai1safe
2005-03-26, 12:19
No damn that stupid Jesus guy for making up a ton of crap that got into thousands of pig headed morons... but that can be said for every religion. well besides budism. It funny theres so much repects for budists on this site.

Rykoshet
2005-03-26, 17:56
quote:Originally posted by Rakanja:

Christianity put human technology back 500 years by making untrue asumptions about scientific knowledge. The library of Alexandria burned down, which didnt help, but Christianity had a hand in it also.

Fair enjough, but every religion burned and pillaged, mostly the damn Romans though, but not entirely them. (ei. Babylon, Alexandria, Constantinople, etc)

xtreem5150ahm
2005-03-26, 19:12
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

What would the world be like without Christianity?

either the O.T is true or not

if the O.T. is true, then Christianity can only be true or false.

if Christianity is true, then with out Christianity, the world would be non-existant

if Christianity is false but the O.T. is true, then we still live under the Law and redemption have not come yet. Which would mean that TRUE Christianity is yet to come.

now if the O.T. is false, then the bible is false, and Christianity is false and then morality is subjective and this question does not matter.

NightVision
2005-03-26, 19:59
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Without Hope.

Lemme explain that...I am not saying that without Christianity the world would be lost, because that is just having faith in something.

That "something" that we happen to have faith in would have to not exist in order for Christianity to not be a part of our world.

Without God and Jesus, Christianity ceases to exist.

So, if there were no God and no Jesus, I would have to say that this world would be without purpose and hope.

A pretty dismal existence/experience.

We would be worshiping some other god.

Digital_Savior
2005-03-27, 09:01
quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

No damn that stupid Jesus guy for making up a ton of crap that got into thousands of pig headed morons... but that can be said for every religion. well besides budism. It funny theres so much repects for budists on this site.

There is respect for every religion here on Totse, save Christianity.

Christianity is the only religion that stirs up hatred such as the kind you have exhibited.

Buddhism isn't a threat to your way of life, so why would you be angry about it ?

Digital_Savior
2005-03-27, 09:03
quote:Originally posted by NightVision:

We would be worshiping some other god.

The simple act of worshipping something doesn't make it "true" or "real".

The world would still be dismal and pointless.

aTribeCalledSean
2005-03-27, 09:56
The same or worse.

Easily.

dirkman
2005-03-27, 11:45
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

What would the world be like without Christianity?

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Ivan Isaacs
2005-03-28, 01:51
THE WORLD WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IMO

elfstone
2005-03-28, 02:32
quote:Originally posted by Rakanja:

Christianity put human technology back 500 years by making untrue asumptions about scientific knowledge. The library of Alexandria burned down, which didnt help, but Christianity had a hand in it also.

That's true but christianity is also responsible for the tremendous progress of present technology. The wars and sacrifices required for such progress wouldn't be possible without christianity.

napoleon_complex
2005-03-28, 02:46
500 years is a bit of a stretch. Maybe a few decades, give or take. As long as you kept with the doctorine, the church pretty much left you alone.

aTribeCalledSean
2005-03-28, 04:21
quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

No damn that stupid Jesus guy for making up a ton of crap that got into thousands of pig headed morons... but that can be said for every religion. well besides budism. It funny theres so much repects for budists on this site.

Cause I'm a playa'!

Metalligod
2005-03-28, 04:26
Exponentially, far more advanced philosophically, intellectually, and technologically.

xtreem5150ahm
2005-03-28, 04:55
quote:Originally posted by Metalligod:

Exponentially, far more advanced philosophically, intellectually, and technologically.

If when playing golf, you hit the ball harder, sometimes it just goes further out of bounds.

ArgonPlasma2000
2005-03-28, 08:10
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

What would the world be like without Christianity?

Well the end is coming soon. Youll get 7 years of it. Make your time http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

Testament
2005-03-28, 08:15
Thier would be much less anti-semetism.

Gorloche
2005-03-29, 20:25
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Without Hope.

Lemme explain that...I am not saying that without Christianity the world would be lost, because that is just having faith in something.

That "something" that we happen to have faith in would have to not exist in order for Christianity to not be a part of our world.

Without God and Jesus, Christianity ceases to exist.

So, if there were no God and no Jesus, I would have to say that this world would be without purpose and hope.

A pretty dismal existence/experience.

That's awfully shallow-minded to be so completely full of your religion that you refuse to even think about a hypothetical situation. If there was no Christianity ever, then Jesus would never have existed anyway so there is absolutely no possibility that it would be hopeless as your God could never be God in the first place.

Oh, and the comment about Totse's relentless ahtred of Christianity? One, it is based off of beligerent and uncompromising Christians such as yourself on occasion (you are a very good debater when you aren't being self-referencial) and two, one of the broadest bases of Totse is balance. Ideally, Totse would be a self-contained world with its own balancing sets, but this will never be an ideal world. Totse is one of the balancing factors against the largest organized (and most fractured, though those two go hand in hand due to humanity) religion in the world. Am I or the rest of Totse saying Christianity is bad? No, as I know for certain for myself and am msotly certain with everyone else here, there are indeed good, open-minded and flexible Christians. They maintain what they believe to their core but they are willing to work with other ideas even if just for a hypthetical situation. We are just sick of it being shoved down our throats by every hypocritically unloving fanatical dog peddling their warped drug into every facet of society. It would be the same even if the "big religion" were Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism. It isn't the religion that's the problem, it's what some people make it into.

EDIT: and to actually answer the question and not make this personal, I don't think it would be different. Another religion would take its place. This is human nature.

[This message has been edited by Gorloche (edited 03-29-2005).]

Rust
2005-03-29, 20:27
quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

If when playing golf, you hit the ball harder, sometimes it just goes further out of bounds.



What happens if you burn the golf ball at the stake?

--

Oh, and to answer the question: better.

[This message has been edited by Rust (edited 03-29-2005).]

xtreem5150ahm
2005-03-30, 02:33
quote:Originally posted by Rust:



What happens if you burn the golf ball at the stake?

LOL, you take a penalty stroke and light up a nudder one.

Digital_Savior
2005-04-03, 09:45
quote:Originally posted by Gorloche:

That's awfully shallow-minded to be so completely full of your religion that you refuse to even think about a hypothetical situation. If there was no Christianity ever, then Jesus would never have existed anyway so there is absolutely no possibility that it would be hopeless as your God could never be God in the first place.

Oh, and the comment about Totse's relentless ahtred of Christianity? One, it is based off of beligerent and uncompromising Christians such as yourself on occasion (you are a very good debater when you aren't being self-referencial) and two, one of the broadest bases of Totse is balance. Ideally, Totse would be a self-contained world with its own balancing sets, but this will never be an ideal world. Totse is one of the balancing factors against the largest organized (and most fractured, though those two go hand in hand due to humanity) religion in the world. Am I or the rest of Totse saying Christianity is bad? No, as I know for certain for myself and am msotly certain with everyone else here, there are indeed good, open-minded and flexible Christians. They maintain what they believe to their core but they are willing to work with other ideas even if just for a hypthetical situation. We are just sick of it being shoved down our throats by every hypocritically unloving fanatical dog peddling their warped drug into every facet of society. It would be the same even if the "big religion" were Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism. It isn't the religion that's the problem, it's what some people make it into.

EDIT: and to actually answer the question and not make this personal, I don't think it would be different. Another religion would take its place. This is human nature.



It is narrow-minded for me to have taken the entirety of my life experiences, spiritual experiences, and any other sort of experience I have picked up along the way, LOGICALLY conclude that there is a God and that I will follow Him with all my might in the capacity in which He has commanded me, and have some kind of conviction about it ?

I don't find that to be narrow-minded at all.

Hypothetically, I believe with all my heart that it is not possible !

You are putting the egg before the chicken when you say that without Christianity, there would be no Christ. How does that make any sense ?

Man's beliefs do not create God. God exists with or without our concept of Him.

I am sorry, but the hatred of Christianity is WORLDWIDE, and has nothing to do with the belligerence and uncompromising nature of individual Christians. Unbelievers are convicted by their own guilt, and don't like to be forced into squirming against the truths that are spoken to them by believers.

I don't think I am in the least bit belligerent. I am sarcastic, and quick to defend my faith, because it is more often than not misperceived.

It is my job to do so, as commanded in the Bible. (not to be sarcastic, but...oh, you get the point.)

I cannot argue anything about myself being self-referential, because that is an opinion based on perception alone, and I can't recall a time where I could have been considered that. If you would like to remind me, feel free.

My goal is not to be a good debater. My goal is to spread the truth about the word of God, and shed light on the untruths about not only our own faith, but the religion's of the world as well.

On many occasion, it has been said that Christianity is bad, when in fact it is the men that participate in the religion that are bad.

Every man is hypocritical, even those who aren't Christians. I detest it when people use that word to describe Christians, as if by our faith alone we ought to be blameless and untouched by the common plagues of man, such as hypocrisy.

That doesn't make the faith itself flawed, nor does it make God flawed.

I haven't shoved anything down anyone's throat. If you all didn't want to see what I had to say, you wouldn't read it. You come here of your own accord, and consider my words. Just as I do yours. I don't complain that unbelievers on Totse are trying to shove their belief that there is no God and that we are all stupid down MY throat, when in fact unbelievers do this with more passion and vehemence than any Christian ever would/should !!!

Your answer to the original poster's question shows that you do not believe in God, which is fine...however, it has nothing to do with my perception of the world's condition if there were no Christianity, since I DO believe there is a God.

You are unecessarily defensive, and it is my right to see the world in it's literal sense in relation to it's creator: God.

This does not show my inability to "hypothesize".

I am a writer...I can do it very well.