So, these days, too many people today take religion for granted.

Too often it's what they are learned into at a very young age, yet know nothing about. Too often it's simply a mindless weekly ritual of which there is supposed to be gauranteement for the soul after death. All this while the people follow mindlessly and ignorantly for some sort of fulfillment they will know nothing about.

Simply put religion must be earned.

I view the great atheism of an alarming number of today's young people, including many of my friends, as a form of the most devastating intellectual and spiritual laziness. This group coupled with those who can barely handle making it to church every week are blatant hypocrites.

People have become so lazy and numb these days... Too busy with other 'more important' things, absent from the enrichment that knowledge on this subject could yield.

[This message has been edited by drBOX (edited 04-08-2005).]

No Agnostosism(sp) is being lazy. Atheism requires you to believe stuff.

quote:Originally posted by drBOX:

So, these days, too many people today take religion for granted.

Isnt that thier choice.

quote:I view the great atheism of an alarming number of today's young people, including many of my friends, as a form of the most devastating intellectual and spiritual laziness.

Your view as you stated. I, However, find that the number of people who DO belive in Christianity an alarming figure.

quote:This group coupled with those who can barely handle making it to church every week are blatant hypocrites.

Now i can see how you can call people who say they belive but dont go to church hypocrites but how are the people who dont belive hypocrites.

quote:People have become so lazy and numb these days... Too busy with other 'more important' things, absent from the enrichment that knowledge on this subject could yield.

How can they be lazy, but to busy?

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In response to Fa1lsafe:

Sure it's their choice, but the whole idea of me bringing up this thread was based on that choice being the wrong one.

I find that the ammount of people believing in any religion to be an alarming figure. I was just commenting on the anti-religious feelings of much of today's youth, most prevelantly seen against christianity.

In my experience the vast, vast majority of people who do not believe in anything whatsoever do it in ignorance and laziness. Instead of seeing what could be out there, they obstain. Sure that's there choice, but I believe it to be one of irresponsibility. It's in the same line of those who can barely make it to church by the skin of their teeth every week.

Finally, people are too 'busy' caught up in their own lives with day to day things, but when it comes to what could be some of the most important things of life, they choose not even to approach the subject.

It takes great faith to be an Athiest....just think about it...what other religion leaves you Morally Free?

quote:Originally posted by drBOX:

In response to Fa1lsafe:

Sure it's their choice, but the whole idea of me bringing up this thread was based on that choice being the wrong one.



Who is to say that it's the wrong choice. Mabey they look at it a different way than you do.

I believe that everybody is either

full of shit, or just admits they

don't know what the hell is going

on. Cause we don't. Peace.

quote:Originally posted by Sniper Piper:

It takes great faith to be an Athiest....just think about it...what other religion leaves you Morally Free?

Uhhhhhhh, like i said before, for the vast majority of atheists i know, and as i know is the case for many more, exluding a small percentage, their belief is hardly one of great faith...

Mostly laziness and moreover for much youth, bitterness towards what already established religions are.

It's like putting two peices of a puzzle together, when the whole thing is being left out. Somehow since they simply don't know anything: they are either religious without an idea in the world of what that means, or atheist, too without any idea of what that means.

quote:Originally posted by Druber:

Who is to say that it's the wrong choice. Mabey they look at it a different way than you do.



Any choice made without the careful consideration of all options is one made in ignorance.

It isn't yearned. I would much rather die and be dead, but that's the fairy-tale. The truth is when you die your spirit leaves you body and it's going somewhere. Albert einstien proves ENERGY DOESN'T DIE. You do consist of energy. Where will it go? I'm not worried about death, I know I'm not going to get a chance to die. I get one better, I get to meet Jesus in the air. When millions disappear, then what? You'll admit how foolish you were? See, if God isn't there (I KNOW GOD IS) I've lost nothing, but if God is there, you've lost your soul.

HellzShellz: It isn't yearned. I would much rather die and be dead, but that's the fairy-tale. The truth is when you die your spirit leaves you body and it's going somewhere. Albert einstien proves ENERGY DOESN'T DIE. You do consist of energy. Where will it go? I'm not worried about death, I know I'm not going to get a chance to die. I get one better, I get to meet Jesus in the air. When millions disappear, then what? You'll admit how foolish you were? See, if God isn't there (I KNOW GOD IS) I've lost nothing, but if God is there, you've lost your soul.

Although your logic is quite faulty, I agree with the point you're trying to make. Consciousness does seem to survive death... and I have a feeling that Christians and athiests alike are going to be disappointed. Imagine the irony of all those trying to escape life by committing suicide, only to reincarnate or be stuck on earth as a ghost :^)

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

It isn't yearned. I would much rather die and be dead, but that's the fairy-tale. The truth is when you die your spirit leaves you body and it's going somewhere. Albert einstien proves ENERGY DOESN'T DIE. You do consist of energy. Where will it go? I'm not worried about death, I know I'm not going to get a chance to die. I get one better, I get to meet Jesus in the air. When millions disappear, then what? You'll admit how foolish you were? See, if God isn't there (I KNOW GOD IS) I've lost nothing, but if God is there, you've lost your soul.

What in the world does this have to do with the original topic.

quote:Originally posted by drBOX:

I view the great atheism of an alarming number of today's young people, including many of my friends, as a form of the most devastating intellectual and spiritual laziness.

Athiests do not believe in the importance of religion as an intellectual endeavour. It is not lazy to ignore the unimportant.

I think your more lazy than any atheist.

You allow yourself to go to church or whatever religious building you go to, but yet through your entire attack on atheists you have given no reason for your faith in it.

Your entire argument infact relies on atheists being lazy, and you want them to disprove it by going somewhere for no apparent reason, nor have you any real proof to back up going there.

To be honest it seems by attacking atheists for there "lazyness" maybe your using it as a shield to protect yourself from doubts in your own mind about your faith.

quote:Originally posted by craig2005:

I think your more lazy than any atheist.

You allow yourself to go to church or whatever religious building you go to, but yet through your entire attack on atheists you have given no reason for your faith in it.

Your entire argument infact relies on atheists being lazy, and you want them to disprove it by going somewhere for no apparent reason, nor have you any real proof to back up going there.

To be honest it seems by attacking atheists for there "lazyness" maybe your using it as a shield to protect yourself from doubts in your own mind about your faith.

hahaha, who said anything about my faith and my religion. I don't even go to church. I just have my own ideas and feelings about religion and about god. I continue to read up and study certain aspects of religion so that i may figure out where I am going with this in life.

I have doubts about just about everything, but I hardly need a 'sheild' to protect myself from awknoledging them.

This post wasn't about me. It was about people in society earning their religion.

All the atheists i know personally, are atheists because they simply do not care about even remotely holding themselves responsible for something bigger. Further they simply refuse to awknowledge an aspect of human nature that has existed since the begining of civilization.

This post had little to do with me, I just wanted to know what people thought of the idea.

Further your personal attacks on whatever doubts I might have, and attempt to call into question my own faith has absolutely no bearing on my post, and on me personally as you don't know me, or anything about me.

[This message has been edited by drBOX (edited 04-11-2005).]

Fair point DrBox,

soz if I offended u