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I have decided to use this word for my ideas on religion. Here is why:
You have atheists who disbelieve in god(s). You have agnostics who believe you can't know because there's not enough information.
I am nescient in that I do not know enough, but I believe you can find enough information. I don't believe in god(s) nor do I disbelieve. In nescience, you can believe in god(s), yet still want to learn more, whether about your own or all others. That's the idea I am going on, anyway. I've been thinking of making a website on it so that it's more clear, but I want to get some opinions on it from people here first.
I have been told I am weak atheist, but I don't think I am because I don't disbelieve as such. I mean, you can believe in god(s) in my ideas. For example, there could be Christian nescients...which I suppose would be like Christian scientists.
Hmm.. Yeah.
Any input?
EDIT: Stupid formatting. I did the same thing the other day..
[This message has been edited by malaria (edited 04-09-2005).]
Clarphimous
2005-04-09, 02:12
I believe the same sort of thing, myself. My goal is to find out whatever truth there is, and if I ever do come across it I'll respond accordingly to whatever it means. At least it gives me something to do, and there's a possibility that there's value in finding truth. That's what I'm hoping, anyway.
That sounds like a neat term. I think I'll use it. :^)
By the way, ya have to use UBB code instead of HTML, so use square brackets instead of angle brackets.
edit: you probably just forgot about UBB code, didn't you? so really no need to tell you... oh well
[This message has been edited by Clarphimous (edited 04-09-2005).]
Hexadecimal
2005-04-09, 05:55
quote:Originally posted by malaria:
I have decided to use this word for my ideas on religion. Here is why:
You have atheists who disbelieve in god(s). You have agnostics who believe you can't know because there's not enough information.
I am nescient in that I do not know enough, but I believe you can find enough information. I don't believe in god(s) nor do I disbelieve. In nescience, you can believe in god(s), yet still want to learn more, whether about your own or all others. That's the idea I am going on, anyway. I've been thinking of making a website on it so that it's more clear, but I want to get some opinions on it from people here first.
I have been told I am weak atheist, but I don't think I am because I don't disbelieve as such. I mean, you can believe in god(s) in my ideas. For example, there could be Christian nescients...which I suppose would be like Christian scientists.
Hmm.. Yeah.
Any input?
EDIT: Stupid formatting. I did the same thing the other day..
Quest for discovery and knowledge...sounds like...oh yes, science. Science=knowledge...omniscience, the word you're playing this new one off of is a state of all-knowledge...take off the prefix of all and you just have science...knowledge. You're seeking to learn more of your own beliefs, and other's...while some call that metaphysics, even the crazy shit is still a form of knowledge.
Keep up the search. Even as skeptical as I am...I continue to look for that spark inside that just alerts me of something more...that's what science is, looking for the next level of knowledge. Good luck with your journey for a better understanding of life...don't forget the other facets of it though.
Haha!!! the irony in this thread is too much.
nescience is a real word, but it doesn't mean what malaria thinks it does...
if you're searching for a word to categorize yourself, then nescient is accurate, but that's not a good thing.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nescient
Monochrome
2005-04-09, 07:45
This is why you should do some research before you post something.
Are you guys retarded? I used the word because of the real word. It's based on it.
The idea is that we DON'T know now, hence NESCIENCE. Jesus, get a clue. (Not talking to you, Hex. You have the right idea, but I use the prefix simply because we don't have the knowledge.)
By the way, admission of ignorance is far greater than assuming intelligence.
Hexadecimal
2005-04-09, 18:28
quote:Originally posted by malaria:
By the way, admission of ignorance is far greater than assuming intelligence.
Hah, that's probably the best I've seen that sentiment put on this forum. Good job. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
quote:Originally posted by malaria:
By the way, admission of ignorance is far greater than assuming intelligence.
not necessarily... it's a nice sentiment, but as with all things, it comes down to a question of degree.
you're only correct if the admission is greater than the assumption.
suppose i'm a health expert. i find out that a certain concentrated apple juice has many dangerous additives. looking for a good topic for my next book, i spuriously assert that my science can prove all concentrated juice is bad for the liver... whatever. no great deed on my part, but hey, maybe i got people to stop drinking a highly processed liquid that is probably effecting their health. they'll just drink fresh juice... not the best example, i know, but you get the idea. i assumed intelligence when ignorant for the sake of my career, it's definitely a character flaw, but we're all human and it's not the end of the world.
on the other hand, if i suspect that my girlfriend is cheating on me without any compelling evidence, it would be a much lesser feat to admit ignorance, if i only admit that, 'i was wrong to call you a whore, since i never saw you actually come home with cash.'
in the same vein, you didn't admit the full extent of your ignorance. the word you used does not fit the definition you supplied. it means something very different.
just for the record, i'd never heard the word nescient.. but since it didn't seem right, i looked it up with my handy firefox dictionary search plugin... it cracked me up. i didn't mean to give the impression that i knew that word beforehand. true, it couldn't hurt to have people think that i possess a superior vocabulary and intellect - a good impression is always nice - but in the end, who really gives a shit? it's the facts that matter, and the fact is that nescient does not mean what you claimed.
eh, whatever... chill out anyways, it's pretty funny if you step back... does being a 'nescient' mean you're unaware of humorous irony too?
i'm laughing at you, bud, not with you... uh, wait. i think i meant the other way around. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
Many words have more than one meaning. I'm just putting another meaning onto it relating to philosophy, not if your girlfriend is sleeping around on you.
You're trying to apply it to everyday situations, and that's not what I am talking about. The idea is spiritual ignorance.
I realize that the adjective form of nescient can be seen as agnostic, more or less, but that is only because it is assumed to be a synonym to agnostic. I am taking the definition of nescience: lacking knowledge, and running with it.
So there you have it.