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Trojan_47
2005-04-15, 05:37
Does the Bible say ne thing is wrong with masterbating?

zorro420
2005-04-15, 05:42
Supposedly, there is a verse that refers to Onan "spilling his seed on the ground," and that this should not be done.

I'm not sure, though, because there's a big cumstain on that page in my bible.

[This message has been edited by zorro420 (edited 04-15-2005).]

flatplat
2005-04-15, 07:04
^^^heh heh

Suposidly adultery is impure thoughts and deeds and not just sex out of wedlock, etc

I think masterbation would come under that.

Kiefer
2005-04-15, 10:24
If masterbating is a crime, then I'm a fucking serial killer.

cheapandugly
2005-04-15, 10:36
quote:Originally posted by zorro420:

Supposedly, there is a verse that refers to Onan "spilling his seed on the ground," and that this should not be done.

I'm not sure, though, because there's a big cumstain on that page in my bible.



that passage is about pulling out as a method of birth control.

it's in genesis



[This message has been edited by cheapandugly (edited 04-15-2005).]

jackketch
2005-04-15, 19:57
^^strictly speaking Onan's sin wasn't the coitus interruptus but the cheating his brother out of an heir.

in the OT the spilling of seed was unclean but not in itself sinful.(yes i know definitions of sin/uncleaniness vary)

xtreem5150ahm
2005-04-16, 01:27
I'm just wondering why people keep asking if masterbating is a sin. Are they looking to justify their actions? Are they looking for God's approval? Are they thinking that if it is a sin, and they dont do it, they are one step closer to heaven? Or if they do masterbate, and it is a sin, then they want nothing to do with religion or God?

This is the way the Law (Ten Commandments, specifically, but all of Mosaic Law, in general) works: in order to be without sin, the whole Law must be kept.. all of the time .

Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all.

Oh, and by the way, jackketch was right reguarding Onan's sin.

Masterbation would be a sin of lust, which is a sin of adultery.

Clarphimous
2005-04-16, 03:30
I'm going to copy and paste a quote of mine from another website.

Old Testament:

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/sexual_discharges/lv15_16a.html

It shows it for men, but I'm guessing it applies to women as well. It seems to imply that masturbation isn't even worth discussing -- it's the bodily fluids that matter (which is why menstruation is considered "unclean").

New Testament:

I've heard two reasons why masturbation is supposed to be wrong.

1. masturbation involves lust, which is sinful

2. masturbation is an abuse of your body's sexual organs

For #1 you have to remember that sins are context sensitive. Take the example of anger. Getting angry at your computer isn't really that bad of a thing to do (as long as you don't take it out on somebody else). But getting angry at your friend would be wrong, as it could damage your friendship.

Apply that reasoning to lust. If you're lusting for somebody you shouldn't, it's sinful. If you're just experiencing pleasure through masturbation, though, I don't see anything wrong with it.

#2 is just plain stupid. using the same logic you could say that chewing gum is an abuse of your body, and is sinful. But the church continues to use it as a reason for not masturbating or using protection.

MasterPython
2005-04-16, 07:49
Masturbating is good for your prostate. Keeps it from getting cancer if you give it a workout every day.

---Beany---
2005-04-16, 12:52
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:

Masturbating is good for your prostate. Keeps it from getting cancer if you give it a workout every day.

If you cum all over your pillow and then sleep on it, it can prevent toe-jam.

xtreem5150ahm
2005-04-16, 16:37
quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:

If you cum all over your pillow and then sleep on it, it can prevent toe-jam.

and ear infections? lol

Digital_Savior
2005-04-17, 09:49
quote:Posted by Clarphimous:

But getting angry at your friend would be wrong, as it could damage your friendship.

No...anger is a healthy, God-given emotion. What you DO with it is all that is important, and ultimately decides whether or not it becomes a sin.

inappropriate comedy tree
2005-04-17, 15:01
quote:Originally posted by Trojan_47:

Does the Bible say ne thing is wrong with masterbating?

as long as you masturbate to jesus, everything is allright http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

spaceMAN
2005-04-17, 20:44
i pwned this question like 6 months ago. search this forum for the other 342456 instances of this thread.

Hexadecimal
2005-04-17, 21:38
Sin or not, it's fun.

Weasel42
2005-04-18, 05:10
Face it kid, you touch yourself at night and GOD IS WATCHING AND YOU WILL BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY.

Tyrant
2005-04-18, 05:19
I'd rather have sex with that to which I would masturbate.

ArgonPlasma2000
2005-04-18, 07:59
quote:Originally posted by zorro420:

Supposedly, there is a verse that refers to Onan "spilling his seed on the ground," and that this should not be done.

I'm not sure, though, because there's a big cumstain on that page in my bible.



That verse does refer to masturbation (pulling it out of his wife). But God smote him because he was supposed to take her as his wife (she was his brothers wife but he died). He didnt want to have kids so he was owned.

Donny Darko
2005-04-18, 09:58
This is fucking pathetic, If the bible says you can’t fulfil your human urges your not going to do it. That’s sad. Talking about restrictions, the bible is outdated and should change, people are getting tired of that shit interfering with every step in there life, but heck it’s your religion don’t wack of.

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jackketch
2005-04-18, 18:40
quote:He didnt want to have kids so he was owned.

LOL

OMG teh Gospels in liek Modern English (t0tse dialect) translated by teh 4rG0n P74sm4 2K !!11

RAOVQ
2005-04-18, 19:22
'Anyone who touches her will be unclean until evening.'

why is masturbating bad but touching a chick on the rag is acceptable? do people actaully follow that?

'On the eighth day, she will take two doves or two young pigeons to the priest'

hahahahahha! thats brilliant. the priest gets two doves from every woman every month. he's not going hungry. why is that not followed either?

i doubt god cares if you have a wank. i guess if he was so worried about it he wouldn't have made us with that whole sex drive thing.

a fucking idiot
2005-04-19, 00:40
The bible doesn't really have anything wrong with masturbating. I'm not Christian so I couldn't care less, but my grandmas a crazy overly-religious minister that knows damn near the whole bible off the top of her head and she talks about how good it is and how its the safest form of sex. So I doubt christianity has anything wrong with it.

Digital_Savior
2005-04-20, 09:41
It is spawned by lust, which makes it sinful.

If you can masturbate WITHOUT being lustful, then you're in the clear.

Last time I checked, though, that was impossible.

Viraljimmy
2005-04-20, 22:01
And sexual urges come from the devil?

It's not natural to have sex?

Fornication and adultery can be

socially disruptive, especially

in biblical times.

That is why it is bad.

Property and social rank were

decided by family lines.

Sex outside of marriage could

confuse lineage, property rights,

and status.

What is bad for society,

is bad for the rulers,

is bad for god.

NightVision
2005-04-20, 22:12
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It is spawned by lust, which makes it sinful.

If you can masturbate WITHOUT being lustful, then you're in the clear.

Last time I checked, though, that was impossible.

It is possable, although semi-pointless. You just need to clear you mind and concentrate on the physical motions.

Clarphimous
2005-04-21, 04:40
Digital_Savior: It is spawned by lust, which makes it sinful.

If you can masturbate WITHOUT being lustful, then you're in the clear.

Last time I checked, though, that was impossible.

Viraljimmy: And sexual urges come from the devil?

It's not natural to have sex?

Adding onto what Viraljimmy said, isn't it just about impossible not to experience some "lustful" sensations during sex? I'm sure that there are of course those times when sex is unpleasant, but certainly you wouldn't want people to purposefully aim for unpleasant intercourse, would you?

Viraljimmy
2005-04-22, 13:04
What does god do with his penis?

I bet he touches himself.

cheapandugly
2005-04-22, 23:54
quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

That verse does refer to masturbation (pulling it out of his wife). But God smote him because he was supposed to take her as his wife (she was his brothers wife but he died). He didnt want to have kids so he was owned.



masturbating and pulling out are two totally different things

Viraljimmy
2005-04-23, 13:14
Satan says spill semen son.