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Sanity0verRated
2005-04-20, 20:18
In the Bible, it says got created man on the SIXTH day. BUT THEN, it says there was no man to till the ground on the SEVENTH day. Christians, please explain. Also explain why God got to kill everybody except for Noah, his kids, and their wives, because he thought people were bad, but I can't kill somebody who is bad?

Digital_Savior
2005-04-20, 20:41
Firstly, you're not God. When a man murders another man, he is committing a sin against God, since God is the creator of man.

When God kills men, it is His right, because He is the creator. Most people can't stomach the thought of being at a God's mercy that can kill whenever He deems it appropriate, but that's the way it is.

You are also not the judge of what is bad and good; God is. God has a righteous judgement, that no man can possess, and therefore only God is qualified to project such judgement upon mankind.

As for man not tilling the ground on the 7th day, the Bible says no such thing. This is simply a misunderstanding on your part.

6th day: Genesis 1:26-31 - "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." 29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning - the sixth day.

No one to till the ground: Genesis 2:4-7 - "When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground 7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."

It can easily be explained that it was between the 3rd and 5th day of creation that "there was no man to till the ground", since it was on the 6th day that man was created. On the 7th day, God rested.

The way it is written implies that man had already been created, and that God was contradicting Himself, since in Genesis chapter 1 it is said that God created man, and in Genesis chapter 2 it is said there was no man to till the ground.

But Genesis 2 is rather a recap of the events that took place during the 6 days of creation.

In the future, it would be cool if you would reference specific verses, to make answering your questions easier.

I hope that clarified it for you.

[This message has been edited by Digital_Savior (edited 04-20-2005).]

ArgonPlasma2000
2005-04-20, 20:57
DS, good post overall. But God didnt contradict himself. There was no man to till the ground because it was unnecessary. Im not sure why God put that verse in there but the fact yet remains. Adam wasnt commanded to mow the lawn until God cursed mankind for eating of the tree.

Also on Noah, perhaps God killed all the people exceptNoah and his family because they were hideously sinful? (Sodom/Gamorrah)

Sanity0verRated
2005-04-20, 21:33
It helped but, if 2 is a recap, then why would it include the 7th day, which wasn't in 1?

Fai1safe
2005-04-20, 23:23
This Gid guy seems to be powerful. So why did he have his story put in a book couldnt he have done something call like writtem the whole thing on the side of a mountain with lightning bolts.

Digital_Savior
2005-04-23, 04:24
quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

DS, good post overall. But God didnt contradict himself. There was no man to till the ground because it was unnecessary. Im not sure why God put that verse in there but the fact yet remains. Adam wasnt commanded to mow the lawn until God cursed mankind for eating of the tree.

Also on Noah, perhaps God killed all the people exceptNoah and his family because they were hideously sinful? (Sodom/Gamorrah)

Umm...I think you sort of misunderstood what I said.

I was pointing out that the "supposed" contradiction wasn't really a contradiction at all. Perhaps you could read it again, with that in mind.

Also, man is sinful...even the most dedicated to God. Noah was who God chose, and He had His reasons. Eventually, man would participate in Sodom and Gamorrah (sp ?)...then...now...and in the future. The purpose of the flood wasn't to alleviate the world of sin. It was to illustrate a point...to show God as the God of wrath, so that we could appreciate Him as the God of Love now.

I don't think I was trying to speculate on why god chose Noah.

Digital_Savior
2005-04-23, 04:26
quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

This Gid guy seems to be powerful. So why did he have his story put in a book couldnt he have done something call like writtem the whole thing on the side of a mountain with lightning bolts.

God gave us His story in the form of a book. It is not hard to understand why He chose that medium for His prose.

God also did what you said, essentially...have you read about how the Ten Commandments were created ?

Digital_Savior
2005-04-23, 04:40
quote:Originally posted by Sanity0verRated:

It helped but, if 2 is a recap, then why would it include the 7th day, which wasn't in 1?

Again, I encourage you to read the words, in the order they are written.

Verses 1-3 in Chapter 2 tell us what God did on the 7th day. He RESTED. That's it.

Then we go to verse 4, which tells us that we are about to read a recap of Genesis 1: "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created."

So, it is summarizing what happened, by saying when each thing was created.

See it now ?

This is a great question, by the way.

niggersexual
2005-04-23, 04:58
quote:Originally posted by Sanity0verRated:

In the Bible, it says got created man on the SIXTH day. BUT THEN, it says there was no man to till the ground on the SEVENTH day. Christians, please explain. Also explain why God got to kill everybody except for Noah, his kids, and their wives, because he thought people were bad, but I can't kill somebody who is bad?

Because he's God God damn it!

inquisitor_11
2005-04-23, 05:17
quote:Originally posted by Sanity0verRated:

It helped but, if 2 is a recap, then why would it include the 7th day, which wasn't in 1?

Hebrew literary feature

Sanity0verRated
2005-04-23, 18:05
Thank you, everyone with a REAL answer.

xtreem5150ahm
2005-04-23, 18:35
quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

This Gid guy seems to be powerful. So why did he have his story put in a book couldnt he have done something call like writtem the whole thing on the side of a mountain with lightning bolts.

Sure, God could have writen the whole bible on a mountain, using lightning bolts. But, would that cause less people to believe? There would still be just as many people thinking, "some ancient man wrote (carved) this".

Unless God blasted the mountain, then restored the mountain, then blasted it again..over and over, like "old faithful", people will still have doubts.

I think that God has given plenty of evidence, but has left it somewhat obscure so as to allow each and every person to believe, or not to believe. (This statement is not Scripturally sound, because no one can come to God, without God having had 'called/appointed' him/her to do so... but it is the easiest way i can think of, to get my point across)

Viraljimmy
2005-04-25, 12:00
quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

I think that God has given plenty of evidence, but has left it somewhat obscure

Tricky bastard!