God said in the end of time he will pour his spirit out amungst ALL men. In Acts, the spirit didn't consume them until they became ONE ACCORD. I think if all branches of christianity, who teach Jesus, will strive for the same goal(win souls)Then, we will be ONE ACCORD.. and we will see the power of God, given by Jesus Christ, poured out amungst us all. We have to stop preaching against branches of christianity, and realize That if they preach Jesus, Which all christianity does, being that Christianity = Followers of Christ, Then we will all have ONE goal, which is to bring in the harvest, and we will see what we need to. It's not going to happen until we come together, and stand UNITED.

That's the problem with Christianity (Monotheism in general, really), everyone thinks they're right only. It goes against Monotheism to allow other variations on Christianity to exist as truth. Just look at the rift between Catholics and other Christians.

Unitarianism is a CULT.

Wouldn't it be easier

to just round up all the

heretics and burn them?

This preachy converting shit

will take forever.

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

God said in the end of time he will pour his spirit out amungst ALL men. In Acts, the spirit didn't consume them until they became ONE ACCORD. I think if all branches of christianity, who teach Jesus, will strive for the same goal(win souls)Then, we will be ONE ACCORD.. and we will see the power of God, given by Jesus Christ, poured out amungst us all. We have to stop preaching against branches of christianity, and realize That if they preach Jesus, Which all christianity does, being that Christianity = Followers of Christ, Then we will all have ONE goal, which is to bring in the harvest, and we will see what we need to. It's not going to happen until we come together, and stand UNITED.



I agree. But the heart of man is evil, so there will always be people that think they are 'more right' than others.

Whether we see it or not, the harvest is going as God planned. And the 'end time' will happen at the appointed time.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Unitarianism is a CULT.

Right, that's why it's preached in the books of acts. SEEK YOUR BIBLE!!

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Unitarianism is a CULT.

Sorry, but I believe in the trinity. The first chapter of John clearly states it. I don't think the miracles of Jesus Christ would follow those who don't. I'm actually certain it wouldn't. ACTS!

Jesus was a heretic. If anyone walked around saying they were God now they would be shot. I do it anyway though.

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

God said in the end of time he will pour his spirit out amungst ALL men. In Acts, the spirit didn't consume them until they became ONE ACCORD. I think if all branches of christianity, who teach Jesus, will strive for the same goal(win souls)Then, we will be ONE ACCORD.. and we will see the power of God, given by Jesus Christ, poured out amungst us all. We have to stop preaching against branches of christianity, and realize That if they preach Jesus, Which all christianity does, being that Christianity = Followers of Christ, Then we will all have ONE goal, which is to bring in the harvest, and we will see what we need to. It's not going to happen until we come together, and stand UNITED.

Well as a Christian and a learned one at that i dont understand a word your saying.

Its hard for us in good conscience to reconcile all denominations when each individual denomination has different (and often wrong) teachings.

Also, where does it say God will pour ut his spirit among us?

And how do you link the unification of denominations to Acts when there were no denomenations?

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Well as a Christian and a learned one at that i dont understand a word your saying.

Its hard for us in good conscience to reconcile all denominations when each individual denomination has different (and often wrong) teachings.

Also, where does it say God will pour ut his spirit among us?

And how do you link the unification of denominations to Acts when there were no denomenations?

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

In Acts it's said the spirit was poured out when the people became ONE ACCORD. That's what the churches are going to have to do, become ONE ACCORD.

Cool, a super villain bent on world domination.

Well your interpretation of the verse is up for debate, but just saying that the denominations are going to have to become one accord doesnt make the Bible say that.

You dont provide an argument to back up your claim. The fact is that if you take a completely Biblical standpoint in just one denomination, you cant "ACCORD". The fact is that some denominations teach the Bible in a way that it ignores other verses and only teaches what it wants. Thats wrong and it makes them corrupt.

Those that adhere directly to the Bible are not to associate on the scale of "being in one accord"

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quote:Originally posted by niggersexual:

Jesus was a heretic. If anyone walked around saying they were God now they would be shot. I do it anyway though.

So do I. Do any of you realize that if Jesus actually came back, he would most likely be locked in a mental institution and labeled "stark and raving mad"? Seriously, there could have been countless Christs that have been locked up in psychiatric institutions.

quote:Originally posted by sellout_10:

Do any of you realize that if Jesus actually came back, he would most likely be locked in a mental institution and labeled "stark and raving mad"?

Only if He is not who He says He is.

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Well your interpretation of the verse is up for debate, but just saying that the denominations are going to have to become one accord doesnt make the Bible say that.

You dont provide an argument to back up your claim. The fact is that if you take a completely Biblical standpoint in just one denomination, you cant "ACCORD". The fact is that some denominations teach the Bible in a way that it ignores other verses and only teaches what it wants. Thats wrong and it makes them corrupt.

Those that adhere directly to the Bible are not to associate on the scale of "being in one accord"



Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

I thought I told you to read Acts. Why don't you just listen, and read? I wouldn't say something without having scripture to support it. I'm non-denominational, I do go by the whole bible. Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Christianity, does have it's branches (denominations) I'm not saying they have to convert. Though if they'd read the bible, I'm sure they'd strickly go by the bible with all religious beliefs cast aside. If the church preaches Jesus as salvation, don't try to convert them, leave them alone. What we, as christians should be doing, Is "going into the world preaching the gospel." Have I made myself clearer, now?

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Better? Please, do not give me your attitude. If you have a question, ask. If you need clarification, specify.

quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

Wouldn't it be easier

to just round up all the

heretics and burn them?

This preachy converting shit

will take forever.

We should burn people because they involve themselves in cults ?

Not very Christian.

Maybe you ought to understand a little more about Christianity before you go puking your assumptions all over Totse.

quote:Originally posted by sellout_10:

So do I. Do any of you realize that if Jesus actually came back, he would most likely be locked in a mental institution and labeled "stark and raving mad"? Seriously, there could have been countless Christs that have been locked up in psychiatric institutions.

Sure...and then he would call a legion of angels to anihilate the jail and the guards.

HE'S GOD...

Silly people.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Sure...and then he would call a legion of angels to anihilate the jail and the guards.



Ah, the fruits of an omni-benevolent god. How blessed are we to have such!

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

Ah, the fruits of an omni-benevolent god. How blessed are we to have such!

yeah, that was a strange thing from digital.. seemed like sarcasm, but i don't completely get it.

then again, sellout's quote was pretty silly. how is being locked up in a mental institution worse than being crucified? i think most christians get that jesus wasn't accepted by society.

if we imagine what might happen should jesus make a second cameo, we have to consider that his return would be a pretty good indicator that he is in fact god, or at least a benevolent supernatural entity. in that case, whether or not anyone believes him is irrelevant. if he were to be locked away as a lunatic, i might want to be right there with him. fuck what his psychiatrists think, the man came back after 2 millenia, he just might be worth listening to.

and you can't imagine what we would think of jesus if he was born for the first time in the modern world and the whole crucifixion thing never happened 2000 years ago. the world today is so heavily influenced by christian culture, it would be a completely different planet, and no one will agree on just how different.

i dunno, whatever, it's late and i'm rambling.

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

Ah, the fruits of an omni-benevolent god. How blessed are we to have such!

Killing His own creation doesn't make Him incapable of being benevolent.

MEN deem murder within the human logical confines to be wrong.

You cannot compare God with man.

Besides, I was saying that the capability was there, not that He would do it.

I am saying, don't paint God out to be a pansy, because He could very well do whatever He wanted.

You knew that. Nice of you to try and twist my words around.

By the way, I suspect you'd hate God even if He was as benevolent as you seem to need Him to be...because then you'd feel like He was a pansy, instead of a tyrant.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Killing His own creation doesn't make Him incapable of being benevolent.

MEN deem murder within the human logical confines to be wrong.

You cannot compare God with man.

If he is omnipotent he has the power to do whatever he had to do, with out choosing the death of his creation. That he did not do so means that he is not benevolent.

quote:

You knew that. Nice of you to try and twist my words around.

Right. Lets ignore that I was not the only one that held reservations about your statement.

quote:

By the way, I suspect you'd hate God even if He was as benevolent as you seem to need Him to be...because then you'd feel like He was a pansy, instead of a tyrant.

Right.

quote:Originally posted by Eil:

yeah, that was a strange thing from digital.. seemed like sarcasm, but i don't completely get it.

then again, sellout's quote was pretty silly. how is being locked up in a mental institution worse than being crucified? i think most christians get that jesus wasn't accepted by society.

if we imagine what might happen should jesus make a second cameo, we have to consider that his return would be a pretty good indicator that he is in fact god, or at least a benevolent supernatural entity. in that case, whether or not anyone believes him is irrelevant. if he were to be locked away as a lunatic, i might want to be right there with him. fuck what his psychiatrists think, the man came back after 2 millenia, he just might be worth listening to.

and you can't imagine what we would think of jesus if he was born for the first time in the modern world and the whole crucifixion thing never happened 2000 years ago. the world today is so heavily influenced by christian culture, it would be a completely different planet, and no one will agree on just how different.

i dunno, whatever, it's late and i'm rambling.

Uh, when Jesus comes back, he isn't coming to say, "Hello." To the world. He's coming for his people. Most of you will not even know he's came, all you'll know is choas. A bunch of missing people. Where did they go?

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

We should burn people because they involve themselves in cults ?

Not very Christian.

Maybe you ought to understand a little more about Christianity before you go puking your assumptions all over Totse.

Historically, that's correct.

Maybe you should learn your own faith's history before attacking other people.

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

Right, that's why it's preached in the books of acts. SEEK YOUR BIBLE!!

It's NOT preached !

God and Jesus both tell us in the Bible that there is but ONE way to Heaven...and it is narrow.

My God...you need to seek out some pastoral assistance.

Just for the sake of the argument, please post the verse in Acts which supposedly tells us that we ought to accept every religion...

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

Sorry, but I believe in the trinity. The first chapter of John clearly states it. I don't think the miracles of Jesus Christ would follow those who don't. I'm actually certain it wouldn't. ACTS!

WHAT THE HELL ?!

I didn't say I didn't believe in the trinity.

Please go to www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com) and look up Unitarianism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism



The Council of Nicaea, in a controversial election marked by violence and intimidation, voted to adopt the notion of the Holy Trinity as an article of faith (creed). Other ideas, such as Arianism, regarding the nature of the Trinity and the nature of Christ within it, were declared heretical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitarianism

Some have argued that the trinity was of pagan origin, and viewed trinitarian doctrines as a contamination of the Christian faith.

So constantine makes Trinitarianism up to cover up the whole da vinchi code thing...

Nukeular Jesus http://vtinc.warparadise.com/images/arts/church.gif

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It's NOT preached !

God and Jesus both tell us in the Bible that there is but ONE way to Heaven...and it is narrow.

My God...you need to seek out some pastoral assistance.

Just for the sake of the argument, please post the verse in Acts which supposedly tells us that we ought to accept every religion...

You're rather ignorant. I didn't say ACEEPT every RELIGION, but every religion that professes Jesus as Christ, and their personaly saviour. Right, My bible tells me JESUS is the way to HEAVEN. Sorry, you're quite foolish. Read THIS.

Matthew 19:16-22 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Jesus asked him, Why do you call me good, there is none good but God, to see if he thought him to be the son of Christ, and because he DID. He said, Keep the commandments. TO ENTER HEAVEN. Then He said to the Rich young ruler,"To have treasures in the kingdom of heaven, sale everything you have and follow me."

Again, Ask for wisdom and understanding when you read your bible.

I've already posted the one about the 'ONE ACCORD'. Learn to read.

How am I IGNORANT ?

You obviously didn't understand what I meant by "Unitarianism", and went off on a useless tangent defending yourself based on a fallacy created in your own mind !

Unitarianism is the religion that holds to the tenets that you were trying to pretend that Christianity upholds...

UNITARIANISM: Christian doctrine that stresses individual freedom of belief and rejects the Trinity http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=unitarianism

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING NOW ??

When did I say that anyone who believe in Christ is not worthy of the kingdom of heaven ? I wouldn't be a Christian myself if I didn't believe that.

What I DON'T agree with is this BS utopia you think is supposed to exist between the religions of the world...they can never come together. It won't happen. Pride is too strong a sin to be overcome.

It is unbelievable how simple minded some Christians truly are.

Sheesh...

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quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

How am I IGNORANT ?

You obviously didn't understand what I meant by "Unitarianism", and went off on a useless tangent defending yourself based on a fallacy created in your own mind !

Unitarianism is the religion that holds to the tenets that you were trying to pretend that Christianity upholds...

UNITARIANISM: Christian doctrine that stresses individual freedom of belief and rejects the Trinity http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=unitarianism

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING NOW ??

When did I say that anyone who believe in Christ is not worthy of the kingdom of heaven ? I wouldn't be a Christian myself if I didn't believe that.

What I DON'T agree with is this BS utopia you think is supposed to exist between the religions of the world...they can never come together. It won't happen. Pride is too strong a sin to be overcome.

It is unbelievable how simple minded some Christians truly are.

Sheesh...



Hun, with GOD all things are possible.