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john_deer
2005-04-30, 23:33
I was bored so i was flipping though the articles on religons on totse. i came across bible contradictions, i looked at some of them some i laughed at how stupid they were, and they made me want to punch the guy who made it in the face, but others made me think and i plan on doing research on them.

For some simple ones, ones that i can respond to using my bible i will post now. I will try to reseach other ones and post the results.

For reference, the guy in the article ( found at: www.totse.com/en/religion/christianity/contradk.html (http://www.totse.com/en/religion/christianity/contradk.html) )

used, i think is using a king james version. Some of the contradictions are apparent in the KJ version. For a note i am usign the new world translation of teh holy scriptures.

Contradiction # 134 says god saw everyone not perfect, but Noah and Job were perfect. Noah "proved to be FAULTLESS among his contemporaries" thanks to dictionary.com i looked up contemporaries and found that it means of the saem time period/of same age. This makes it true. In that time the world was very bad in gods eyes, and Noah and his famlily wasn't. As for job the bible says he prove upright. He wasn't always good, but for the most part he was. Like when satan said to god that Job only followed him because god blessed him, take away the goodies, lose job. God did this and job stayed. yay! Job 1:7-22 (around those scriptures) For example say a man was running a marathon, and a newpaper said that he ran steadly at a good pace for the race. This would still be true if the runner would stop occansionaly for a drink of water. Same case for JOb.

#147 didn't really look into it, might be other answer but : the prophecy is nto fullfilled YET

#152 - Genisis 3:6,7 - Satan (the serpent) lied to eve, she though the fruit was good from the lie.

#24 - Perfect love can't be mingled with fear. But first, humans aren't perfect, and the fear spoken about fearing god is like a fear of a boy and his dad. The boy loves his dad, but is afaid of displeasing him because he will be disiplined.

#12-15 - Exodus 20:4,13,15,16 - some laws for the nation of Isarel. Exodus 25:18 - they weren't commanded to use idols in worship, the cherubs were for the tabernacle. like decoration. Exodus 23:27 Isarel had to kill their enemies, if not, god's nation would be destroyed and bye bye gods people http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif) Exodus 21:23 says ASK for the goods. About 1 kings 22:20 im not sure, but i will research it. Maybe only Lost can answer that one. How did you learn all about religon lost?

Anyways, keep in mind im using the new world translation, and i will reseach others and post them. If you see any in the article that you couldn't find yourself or you want me to find out, post it.

T-BagBikerStar
2005-05-01, 06:20
Just on the topic I've always wondered...

All of christianity is decendent from Judaism. Jesus died for your sins. Sins in Judaism might include things such as not keeping Kosher, or failing to celebrate passover, which in turn would mean completely forgetting how god brought you free from Egypt. Why the hell then do you just say screw it to what Jesus did for you in this sense and stop following this. In my mind if he died for your sins you should stop sinning. I've asked some of my friends about this but none of them are really any good of christians so they have no clue. If anybody cares to explain I'd love to know.

Once you finish that:

1) wtf is with moving shabbat a day later. It's to remember the day god rested after creating the planet, you can't change that.

2) Why would you no longer celebrate Yom Kippur a holiday to make up for all of your sins over the year?

3) Just as a general thing now how does whatever Jesus did suddenly allow you to throw our all holidays, Chanukah, Tubishvat, Rosh Hashannah, and just make new ones. I can understand adding more but not the throwing out the old ones.

redzed
2005-05-01, 11:25
quote:Originally posted by T-BagBikerStar:

Why the hell then do you just say screw it to what Jesus did for you in this sense and stop following this. In my mind if he died for your sins you should stop sinning.

It is said Jesus/YSHVH died for the sins of the world. Sin being error, the mythology illustrates the mistakes/sins of human in persecuting those who teach another way whilst we follow those who bring continual suffering on all.

Namaste http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

john_deer
2005-05-01, 17:29
no one can stop sinning, thats why we are imperfect. jesus died so that one day we can be perfect. other than that it is immpossible to stop sinning. "the wages sin pays is death" - the bible (i forget what scripture) Since adam and eve sinned BEFORE they had kids, when they did have kids, the sinful nature has passed down to them. no one is perfect, therefore we all die. to "balance the scale" a perfect man - jesus had to die to gain perfect life.